I Got "The Black Cauldron" DVD

musicradio77 · Post by **musicradio77** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:00 pm

I went to Best Buy today and I got the DVD of "The Black Cauldron". This is probably one of the best Disney films ever made. I got this movie at Best Buy and it was not that bad. It was on one of the "Gold Classic Collection" series, along with that are "Sword in the Stone" and "A Goofy Movie", the ones that I saw on sale. I was so lucky to find this one on the GCC. In some cases "Make Mine Music", "The Three Caballeros", "Melody Time", "The Adventures of Ichabod & Mr. Toad" and "Fun & Fancy Free" which was part of the GCC are all out of print. You should find other GCC DVD's on Ebay or other places like GameStop.

This is a great movie.

Poody · Post by **Poody** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:23 pm

I like the movie a lot. I only saw it a little over a year ago when I bought the DVD. They really need to remaster it though....

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:27 pm

Poody wrote:They really need to remaster it though....

The French DVD has a remastered anamorphic transfer, and from the screencaps I've seen on the net, it looks gorgeous. I want to get it, but don't know how. Can I order it from the French Amazon.com? I've actually tried, but at a point the site was telling me something during the checkout process, and I couldn't understand it (it was in French). I didn't dare pay in case I was supposed to be reading that the site wouldn't send the DVD to my country or something ...

Harumph.

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:49 pm

musicradio77 wrote:This is probably one of the best Disney films ever made.

I agree!

I think the DVD looks great, but I don't have a fancy TV. It's an improvement over the VHS, that's for sure!

Simba3 · Post by **Simba3** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:02 pm

I still fail to see the appeal of this movie. I think it's terrible, it is probably my least favorite of all the Disney Animated Classics. Sorry, I'm really not trying to step on any toes here, I am just trying to explain my point of how I don't understand the film's appeal.

Anne · Post by **Anne** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:09 pm

I watched it for the first time last year and it was really good! I need to watch it again though because I can't remember everything!

Oh and Julian Carter, if you want to buy it on the French Amazone website, I can translate for you the parts you don't understand. Just send me an email!

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:14 pm

Simba3, how do you feel about "Atlantis"? Does the lack of songs have anything to do with how you feel about TBC? I love Disney songs very much, but I don't miss them in TBC- the movie is that good!

My favorite part of Disney movies is the characters, and "The Black Cauldron" has some great ones! Gurgi is my absolute favorite Disney character- he is just so cute and heroic! Well, eventually heroic.

Simba3 · Post by **Simba3** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:17 pm

blackcauldron85 wrote:Simba3, how do you feel about "Atlantis"? Does the lack of songs have anything to do with how you feel about TBC? I love Disney songs very much, but I don't miss them in TBC- the movie is that good!

My favorite part of Disney movies is the characters, and "The Black Cauldron" has some great ones! Gurgi is my absolute favorite Disney character- he is just so cute and heroic! Well, eventually heroic.

Didn't like Atlantis, but that isn't saying much because I haven't really liked much from Disney after "Tarzan" with the exception of "Brother Bear" and "Lilo and Stitch". It could very well be the lack of music, but as a whole the movie had absolutely no appeal to me. But, to each their own. It is nice to see people have different opinions and see things differently.

Poody · Post by **Poody** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:23 pm

blackcauldron85 wrote:Simba3, how do you feel about "Atlantis"?

Let's not talk about that one....

j/k

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:27 pm

Well I finally accepted the fact that Disney will probably never give this a 2-disc re-release so I caved and bought the GC DVD recently. This film is great and deserves a special treatment loaded with extras.

purin · Post by **purin** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:49 pm

I don't think it's "the best movie," but it's definitely underrated and undeserving of its black sheep status.

People say this movie didn't do well because Disney went too mature, that this movie is the reason you can't go into darker territory in Disney films. That's ridiculous. This movie has those neato elements of the fantasy genre, the most important of which being the SKELETON ARMY. That's so many kinds of cool, expecially in an animated format.

What the movie was missing was some extra soul to make you really care about the characters and go through the movie with them. I felt more like I was looking at the characters. I never really understood who they were or what their motives were.

I find myself wanting to like this movie more than I do.

Barbossa · Post by **Barbossa** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:28 pm

I read a rumour on the internet that Disney is interested in doing a live action Black Cauldron, and perhaps doing the whole Prydain series into live action movies. It would look good on the DVD shelf next to Narnia.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:39 pm

Basically, after Walt's "old men" had retired, only the "new people" were responsible for TBC. Opinions differ, but it's no wonder, really, that they weren't able to make it quite as universally appealing as most of the other "classics".

disneystarsfan · Post by **disneystarsfan** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:50 pm

Julian Carter wrote:
Poody wrote:They really need to remaster it though....
The French DVD has a remastered anamorphic transfer, and from the screencaps I've seen on the net, it looks gorgeous. I want to get it, but don't know how. Can I order it from the French Amazon.com? I've actually tried, but at a point the site was telling me something during the checkout process, and I couldn't understand it (it was in French). I didn't dare pay in case I was supposed to be reading that the site wouldn't send the DVD to my country or something ...

Harumph.

do you remember where you found the french screencaps from? i'd like to see them.

Widdi · Post by **Widdi** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:57 pm

I too am a Black Cauldron lover, which doesn't surprise me as I tend to love the darker animated classics along with ones other people don't like that much ( I LOVE Atlantis. Easily my favorite of the post 90's DACs. It just gets better with each viewing). I really want it to get a reissue as well, more so because I can't find it on DVD where I live.

Chernabog_Rocks · Post by **Chernabog_Rocks** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:17 pm

I love the Black Cauldron as well, maybe not as much as others but it's not near the bottom of the list either. Gurgi steals the show for sure with his munchings and crunchings and bashings and smashings

Plus it has one of the best villains, I don't remember any other villains earning the movie a PG rating

Anyways while we have Atlantis being discussed as well...I saw it in the IMAX theater I believe when it came out for a school fieldtrip, the most hilarious part was the fact our teachers name is Mr. Whitmore

Only problem I have with Atlantis is the fact they don't explore the city enough, it's like Ok we're here let's go now

Poody · Post by **Poody** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:29 am

I forgot to mention.... the movie reminds me of Sleeping Beauty too.

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:24 am

Anne wrote:Oh and Julian Carter, if you want to buy it on the French Amazone website, I can translate for you the parts you don't understand. Just send me an email!

Thanks Anne!

At the moment I'm broke, so I won't be buying it. However, if I ever tune into amazon.fr again, I'll hire you as my official translator!

disneystarsfan wrote:do you remember where you found the french screencaps from? i'd like to see them.

There's a good comparison of the Finnish RG 2 release (same video quality as the US GC disc) and the French RG 2 release in this UD thread. Just scroll down and enjoy.

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... c&start=20

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:03 am

Barbossa wrote:I read a rumour on the internet that Disney is interested in doing a live action Black Cauldron, and perhaps doing the whole Prydain series into live action movies. It would look good on the DVD shelf next to Narnia.

I read that before, too. I kind of don't want them to make the series, I guess. As I've mentioned in at least other threads, if not this one, I'm not much of a fantasy-movie fan (I mean, I love Disney movies, but not so much "The Lord of the Rings", for example- I fell asleep during whichever one I saw, and other movies like that). It's a fluke that I love TBC as much as I do (I do love "Atlantis", too, but not more than other movies). I agree, Chernabog_Rocks- Gurgi totally steals the show- I <3 him!!! He's so cute and cuddly!

Going back to the live-action version- Let's take "The Jungle Book" and "101 Dalmatians" for a second. Tigers and bears and panthers and apes exist in real life. No problem translating that from animation to live-action. Dalmatians exist in real life, no problem. Cruella is a human, so no problem there, either. Gurgi is a, well, he's a Gurgi. Good luck finding a live-action Gurgi in the forest! And the Horned King...that would just be hard to pull off. I know that makeup departments can work wonders, but how would we feel if Disney made a live-action "Fantasia" with Chernabog in there- I think of the Horned King and Chernabog as the two most scary Disney villains, much in part due to their non-humanness.

So, in the live-action "The Jungle Book", Shere Khan just looks like a tiger. Baloo looks just like a bear. What would Gurgi or the Horned King look like? Chances are they'd look so much different than what they look like in the animated film. That may not bother everyone here, but it bothers me.

Plus, I haven't read the "Chronicles of Prydain", but, from what I've read about them, there are soooo many characters. The Horned King isn't even the main villain in the books. If Disney did make a "Narnia"-style series of films, that would be SOOOO many characters!

purin wrote:What the movie was missing was some extra soul to make you really care about the characters and go through the movie with them. I felt more like I was looking at the characters. I never really understood who they were or what their motives were.

That's interesting. Well, we don't know much of anything about Eilonwy (she's a magical princess) and Fflewdur (he's a minstrel). If the movie was extremely long, then maybe we'd have some more backstory on them. Heck, all we know about Taran is that he's an assistant pig keeper to a psychic pig. So, yeah, I see what you mean in a sense- how did Taran become an assistant pig keeper? (My guess is that it's his apprenticeship, since back in the day, that's what young men did. Be apprentices I mean, not assistant pig keepers.) Why didn't the king and queen send out a rescue party for Eilonwy? (Or did they?) There are a lot of questions that could be answered. But in other movies, there are questions, too. Why does King Triton hate humans so much (the prequel may answer that- see, DTVs aren't horrible!)? Yeah, that's the only question I can think of at the moment, but you know what I mean!

"The Black Cauldron" was in production (including pre-production) for so long that there were bound to be problems.

Poody, does TBC remind you of SB because they're both widescreen movies, or because of their settings, or why?!?!?

The French release looks pretty!!!!!

Jack Skellington · Post by **Jack Skellington** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:19 am

I wish they made a sequel faithful to the "Chronicles of Prydain" and merge the already known characters to the sequel even though nothing has been written about them in the other books.

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