Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

[veu]

Calm down!

I simply report the news and NOT rumors!

The ONLY confirmed (by Disney herself!) news are the news from Siggraph 2005... others are only rumors!

And also the main page of UltimateDisney reports this at this link: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/intheaters.html

Rapunzel - Certain films attract buzz from an early stage. Often these projects hold a best-selling book as a source or carry a world famous superhero in the title. This computer-animated project doesn't quite fit either of those requirements, but Disney fans have been excited by it for years, even though it has been repeatedly bumped and always off in the distance.
Longtime A-list Disney animator Glen Keane (supervising animator of such protagonists as Ariel, Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and Tarzan) simultaneously makes his directorial and CGI debuts in this new take on the classic fairy tale of a long-haired princess and her valiant prince. Here, a frustrated witch brings two romantically-challenged teenagers from the real world into that of the story, casting them as Rapunzel and her prince. Broadway veteran Kristin Chenoweth (who starred in the Wonderful World of Disney musicals Annie and The Music Man) will voice Rapunzel, while another stage actor (Dan Fogler) will lend his vocals to the prince.

Why UltimateDisney hasn't change the plot? Simply because it's this the plot...

Fantasmic, the modern references aren't irrelevant... it's the main problem...

In any case, if it will be confirmed that you are right, I'll apologize... but I doubt because we all know what are officials news... you base your considerations of rumors not yet confirmed... but rumors are rumors and news are news...

I stop to post here... bye bye... see you soon

[PatrickvD]

okay I hate the modern day setting idea and here's why.

Using the pizza boy, romantically challenged couple idea would imply that fairy tales are not of this day and age and need to be brought to the viewer with some sort of clever "framing device". Shrek really planted this idea into peoples head that the traditional way of adapting fairy tales is old fasioned and inferior to this "cheeky" new "thing".

Here's the thing. it worked in 1937. it still worked in 1950, 1959 and by 1991 it still didn't bother anyone.

and as a bonus, these "traditionally" told stories are also less self congratulatory and self conscious.

[ChrisLyne]

I agree. Disney tried to do a more Shrek type thing for Chicken Little and it failed.

In 15 years does anyone really think Shrek will be loved as much as say Beauty and the Beast is today? Disney need to realise this and I think they are doing.

I think it will work for Enchanted as it's set in "our" world (plus Menken is extremely good) but Rapunzel needs to be a complete fairy tale. If for no other reason than it will seem too close to Enchanted!

[Rumpelstiltskin]

For me it seems like the section about Rapunzel hasn't been updated for quote a while, except for the release date. It is a fact that after John Lasseter and Ed Catmull came over to Disney, Keane started on the script again from scratch, and a while ago Dean Wellins was hired as a co-director to help complete the script. Or is Keane lying when he says
“It’s a story of the need for each person to become who they are supposed to be and for a parent to set them free so they can become that. It will be a musical and a comedy and have a lot of heart and sincerity. I think that’s what Disney needs to do right now. No one else can do it. We should not be embarrassed or making excuses for doing a fairy tale." ?
http://mag.awn.com/index.php?&article_no=2684&page=6)

I have heard the phrase "a frustrated witch brings two romantically-challenged teenagers from the real world into that of the story" ever since I heard about the move, and before Disney bought Pixar. But I guess it is better to have a reference to an outdated plot than not having anything at all, since nothing about the new plot has become official yet (and as far as I know, isn't completed yet).

Of course, every single article on the net could just be rumors and pure specualtion, while the old part that still remains on UltimateDisney is still correct, but I have my doubts. And to be honest, I can't see the idea about bringing this up again and again as long as nothing new is revealed.

And about the pizza boy; I don't know if there is any point in mention it again, but I'll repeat what has been said over and over again; the pizza boy is from early concept art done years ago, and has nothing to do with how the movie will finally turn out.

[Disney's Divinity]

Calm down!

I simply report the news and NOT rumors!

The ONLY confirmed (by Disney herself!) news are the news from Siggraph 2005... others are only rumors!

Yes, you are reporting news. Old news. You can't just dismiss the entire article (which specifically quotes Glen Keane, who's producing the movie) that points out Rapunzel's change in direction.

Why UltimateDisney hasn't change the plot? Simply because it's this the plot...

Just because they haven't wasted time reporting a small bit of news on a movie that won't be coming into focus until two years or more from now doesn't mean that the article is any less valid.

[REINIER]

Is there any news about Rapunzel Unbraided (if that still is the Title)?
Is Glen Keane still in the driver's seat?
Is the tentative 2009 releasedate really possible?
Are there any well-known (not do disregard any talent) animators involved?

think that's about it

[blackcauldron85]

It doesn't have Unbraided in the title anymore.

http://www.animated-news.com/2007/latest-on-rapunzel/
TAG and Blue Sky Disney both report on the recent Walt Disney Animation Studios meeting, where Glen Keane, co-director of Disney’s upcoming Rapunzel, commented that the restructuring of feature animation instituted by new leaders Ed Catmull and John Lasseter has greatly improved the story for Rapunzel. Everyone seemed to be excited about the new emphasis on story. Glen and co-director Dean Wellins are moving ahead with the story, which is now up on reels. The “Story Trust” of Disney and “Brain Trust” of Pixar have contributed valuable assistance to the second and third acts of the film. The first act has remained relatively the same since Lasseter approved of it earlier this year.

[REINIER]

Thanks for that
blackcauldron85

didn't know that yet!

[singerguy04]

There's already been a few topic threads about Rapunzel, and any of them most likely would've answered this question. Try searching for things with the Search engine before adding any more topics. Thanks!

[REINIER]

There's already been a few topic threads about Rapunzel, and any of them most likely would've answered this question. Try searching for things with the Search engine before adding any more topics. Thanks!

I know to which you refer, however after reading them all there are still some items not discussed such as the questions I posed here.

[Dottie]

Then you could have still asked your questions in the existing threads.
It just gets very cofusing when there are several threads dealing with the same topic.

[REINIER]

Then you could have still asked your questions in the existing threads.
It just gets very cofusing when there are several threads dealing with the same topic.

STILL, READ PEOPLE , THIS IS NOT DISCUSSED EARLIER ON

By the way try finding a topic posted that long ago!

[singerguy04]

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... t=rapunzel


There, and here is how i did it.

-clicked on search
-wrote Rapunzel in the search keyword box
-scrolled down to General Discussion on the forum box
-clicked search topic title only which is to the right of the forum box
-it was found

Total time- a whole lot longer than it took to write all of this out.

If we could, maybe we can get these two topics put together? thanks moderators!

[REINIER]

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... t=rapunzel


There, and here is how i did it.

-clicked on search
-wrote Rapunzel in the search keyword box
-scrolled down to General Discussion on the forum box
-clicked search topic title only which is to the right of the forum box
-it was found

Total time- a whole lot longer than it took to write all of this out.

If we could, maybe we can get these two topics put together? thanks moderators!

You Mean to tell me you still know and respond to topics that long ago, if we are to have any feedback on any topic it has to be a popular long
ungoing topic, unfortunately there is little interest here

If there is to be any serious feedback shall we just agree to disagree

[singerguy04]

Well, part of my whole point is that we really don't know more about this film than what has been discussed in that topic. I'm pretty sure that you can read through that and know everything that there is to know. Lassater wants to cut back on how much the public knows about movies that are in production, so I'm not expecting us to know much more on Rapunzel for a few years still.

[Disney Duster]

You Mean to tell me you still know and respond to topics that long ago, if we are to have any feedback on any topic it has to be a popular long
ungoing topic, unfortunately there is little interest here

If there is to be any serious feedback shall we just agree to disagree

Actually we do bring up old topics here and they become popular again when we have news or new questions. Check out the date of the last post in this Rapunzel thread:

Rapunzel thread

The last post was made Aug 09, 2007, which is not that far away from Aug 25, 2007, when you made this topic.

Also, check out this Enchanted thread page:

Enchanted thread page 9

The date of the post at the top of the page is Jun 22, 2007, and the post right after that is Aug 05, 2007, a long time after the post before it, but the post got addressed and then the thread stayed active as a new poster for Enchanted arrived and we talked about it!

So you see, why like it when existing topics resurface, with new information or questions or theories or opinions![/url]

[kurtadisneyite]

Am I correct in assuming that Rapunzel remains a CGI film, with (apparently) a revamped story and Glen Keane still at its helm?

In any event it will be interesting to see whether they keep the story a classic one, a classic one with modern slant/emphasis, or go for broke and convert the story into a modern tale with classic undertones.

[Fantasmic]

it's going to be classical
it's being pushed back even farther than we thought;
on a recent Disney Animated Features presentation at the Toronto Film Festival, a spreadsheet was handed out that listed all of Disney's past and upcoming feature films, it listed The Princess and the Frog as being slated for an 09 release, with Rapunzel the year after.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

There are three upcoming Disney movies I'm aware of; Bolt, The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel. Was there any hints of other future movies than these at the Toronto Film Festival?

[consultant]

Forgive me if this wikipedia entry has been discussed (I read the first few and last few posts in this huge thread)....

I've been sort of depressed since Chicken Little as I'm a fan of the pure artistry of hand-drawn feature animations. However I'm also a realist in that technology marches on and the almight dollar rules the world.

Rapunzel *may* bring me new hope based on what I read in the "Visual Style" section of this Wikipedia entry. It sounds like someone is trying to marry CGI with hand drawn animation in a way that does justice to the original artform. I'm crossing my fingers. My gut still tells me though 5 years from now, Disney will do a truly hand drawn animation just for old times sake and people will love it, being burnt our on CGI movie after CGI movie after CGI. I'm not sure if they will ever get to the point where you can't tell the difference but that sounds like the direction they are trying to head in with Rapunzel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapunzel_(2009_film)