HSM star doesn't seem too innocent anymore...

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Ah, the things I miss when I'm at play practices...

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pap64 wrote:According to Jim Hill Zac Effron has been a pain to deal with at Disney, being a total male diva on the set of HSM 2 to the point where Disney doesn't want anything to do with him and prefers to work with Corbin Bleu.

As cute as he may be you can tell that he's a male diva. Like, the way he acted at The Teen Choice Awards. He so pissy and fed up with everything.
It seemed very unprofessional and unflatering, yet he knew he was on camera.

2nd the pic was not that bad as she unlike many did not do anything in the shot but stand there with pants and a shirt.

3rd I think I'd love if they replaced her as she was never a good actress, or lipsyncer for that matter. I always enjoyed Ashley Tisdale's acting, singing, (and not Hudgens its not my fault but,) characters and looks far more.
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They can't replace her it wouldn't be Gabierlla anymore. :(
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jennydumas wrote: "Oh I'm sorry, I took the pic and it accidentally got leaked on to the internet"
I don't believe that crap!
I mean COME ON!!!
I believe it. I believe got the pic taken before she got famous and figured it was in trusted hands and someone got greedy and knew they could sell the pic for BIG BUCKS. It didn't accidentally get leaked, someone made a good profit. Someone she probably thought was a good friend. She doesn't seem a wild girl type, probably did it to impress a guy or for actual romantic reasons.

The picture was of her, standing looking like a natural young woman and frankly it was far better then what these little has-been teenie-bopper sluts do with opening their legs for the cameras every five seconds.

I seriously doubt she wanted this publicity and is acting stupid. I think she is probably dumb-founded and very hurt right now. And probably very afraid for the future of her career.


slave2moonlight wrote:Though she seems to be stuck in the '70's, if you know what I mean. Hope that wasn't over the line.
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..um, YES?

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I find nothing wrong with the 70's line. Just saying she is natural. Its nice to know some young women are altering their bodies to look like little girls for men. :wink:
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Siren wrote:
I find nothing wrong with the 70's line. Just saying she is natural. Its nice to know some young women are altering their bodies to look like little girls for men. :wink:
Oy, the "little girl" line. There are other reasons men prefer such alterations, just as women prefer men to shave their faces.
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slave2moonlight, I think your last post is getting dangerously close to inappropriate. Let's redirect conversation to the issue at hand and not get sidetracked by crude anatomical discussion. It might be a fine line, but the public controversy of a Disney star's picture being leaked doesn't necessitate graphic analysis of the photo itself or related lines of adult discussion. Thanks.

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AwallaceUNC wrote:slave2moonlight, I think your last post is getting dangerously close to inappropriate. Let's redirect conversation to the issue at hand and not get sidetracked by crude anatomical discussion. It might be a fine line, but the public controversy of a Disney star's picture being leaked doesn't necessitate graphic analysis of the photo itself or related lines of adult discussion. Thanks.

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Fine with me (though I'm not sure that totally rings true), but I think the words "graphic" and "crude" are a little extreme. I chose my words very carefully, but I've edited the post nonetheless. I never meant the original post on the subject to be more than a passing comment, but that certain insinuation that was made is a pet peeve of mine.
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Putting this a bit more on track here...Disney issued a statement today accepting her apology, claiming that the incident will not be a factor in future casting decisions for the company.
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She will definitely not be in HSM3

i cant believe she admitted that she was actually undressed and didnt just try and claim that the photo was doctored
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katemonster wrote:She will definitely not be in HSM3

i cant believe she admitted that she was actually undressed and didnt just try and claim that the photo was doctored
If Disney said that she can be in it, then I'm sure she'll be in it! And, I'm glad that she's an honest young lady. It's wrong to lie!
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blackcauldron85 wrote:
katemonster wrote:She will definitely not be in HSM3

i cant believe she admitted that she was actually undressed and didnt just try and claim that the photo was doctored
If Disney said that she can be in it, then I'm sure she'll be in it! And, I'm glad that she's an honest young lady. It's wrong to lie!
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What I might right could be a bit naughty...

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Whilst I can't say that I really think that she was a good girl for bearing it all, I'm against the complete uproar over this. Yes, it's a little slutty what she did, but I don't see what it does to distort her image in the High School Musical franchise, for her character has become seperate from the actress who played her. Kids shouldn't even be reading the kind of things that this type of news would appear in, anyway, so the main area of potential damage on the image can not really be created. I heard that Julie Andrews once went topless in the early 80s for one of her movies, yet most people still associate her with Mary Poppins, and not Maxim, and she's been in Disney movies and specials ever since.

Don't be too over the top. :p
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Siren wrote:
I believe it. I believe got the pic taken before she got famous and figured it was in trusted hands and someone got greedy and knew they could sell the pic for BIG BUCKS. It didn't accidentally get leaked, someone made a good profit. Someone she probably thought was a good friend. She doesn't seem a wild girl type, probably did it to impress a guy or for actual romantic reasons.
She would of been 15 or 16 at the time and I'm PRETTY sure that's illegal...
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Wonderlicious wrote:Whilst I can't say that I really think that she was a good girl for bearing it all, I'm against the complete uproar over this. Yes, it's a little slutty what she did, but I don't see what it does to distort her image in the High School Musical franchise, for her character has become seperate from the actress who played her. Kids shouldn't even be reading the kind of things that this type of news would appear in, anyway, so the main area of potential damage on the image can not really be created. I heard that Julie Andrews once went topless in the early 80s for one of her movies, yet most people still associate her with Mary Poppins, and not Maxim, and she's been in Disney movies and specials ever since.

Don't be too over the top. :p
That's my only opinion on this matter, as well.
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PeterPanfan wrote:
Siren wrote:
I believe it. I believe got the pic taken before she got famous and figured it was in trusted hands and someone got greedy and knew they could sell the pic for BIG BUCKS. It didn't accidentally get leaked, someone made a good profit. Someone she probably thought was a good friend. She doesn't seem a wild girl type, probably did it to impress a guy or for actual romantic reasons.
She would of been 15 or 16 at the time and I'm PRETTY sure that's illegal...
I agree, but more than likely, we will never find out who as the first news media organization who got the picture will probably said they got it anonymously.
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Yeah,now they were supposebly sent to Drake Bell... :roll:
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Has there really been a "complete uproar" over this? I haven't heard one word about it on television yet, though before it happened they were discussing her romance with her co-star all the time on E and channels like that. All the news seems to want to talk about is Britney (or Lindsay or Paris).

I think it's understandable for there to be an uproar among hardcore Disney fans though, as there was once a certain wholesome image Disney stars were expected to represent. As natural and beautiful as many of us consider the human body to be, most of us do not take nude pictures of ourselves, even those of us defending the action, so these statements that she was just being human or whatever are a little hokey.
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You know why its not big news? Because SHE isn't making it big news. She's boring to the press. She admitted it was her and that she was embarassed. Because she is not some heiress or has-been pop star mom who is constantly making a spectacle of herself, they don't bother with it because its not shocking enough. She didn't have a mental break down over it and beat up the paparazi. She admitted her mistake, wished it didn't get out in public, apologized, and is moving on. And good for her.
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So, it's true, it's really not big news then?

I agree, she's handled it well if she really didn't want it to be a big deal. Though, when this happens one always wonders if it's truly a publicity stunt or an attempt to lose the "good girl" image, because ya gotta know by now that it's going to leak out. How a celebrity could take a nude picture and not expect it to get out to the public is beyond me, and since she doesn't seem to want it to become a big deal, maybe she really is simply not that bright.
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Or maybe she just decided to take a picture of herself naked for someone she cared about :roll: If she wanted to lose the 'good girl' image, I think the picture would have been much more raunchy.
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Jasmine1022 wrote:Or maybe she just decided to take a picture of herself naked for someone she cared about :roll: If she wanted to lose the 'good girl' image, I think the picture would have been much more raunchy.
:roll: Jessica Biel took much less revealing photos to lose her "good girl" image when she was tired of it. I'm not saying she didn't "just decide to take a picture of herself naked for someone she cared about," I said a celebrity should KNOW something like that is bound to get out to the public, unless she is incredibly dull-witted. And, again, it's not the extremely common expression of caring that so many people try to excuse it as. Most people have never taken a nude photo, so trying to call it a normal thing is just silly. It's not even a question of right or wrong, it's this idea that nude photos are a normal part of life for most people that is so absurd. That's like saying all those girls on Girls Gone Wild commercials represent what the average girl does on Spring Break. A lot of them, yes, but it's rather pushing it to say that it is the norm. That's usually just an excuse used by those who are trying to excuse themselves or someone they care for.

Now, personally, I'm not anti-nude photos at all, but that doesn't mean I'd want anyone I cared about to take any and I'd hope they had the sense not to take private ones. The thing about the private ones like this one is that you know they aren't taken for any "artistic" purposes, and there are much better ways to express your caring for someone. Speaking as a guy, and an artist no less, if your man is trying to get you to take pictures like this one for him, you might want to question his motives, because there's no reason he shouldn't be satisfied with a clothed picture. I mean, not that you can't take artistic nudes in private, but you can tell by the pose that it wasn't an attempt at being artistic on either person's part.
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