Gummi Bears plot questions

[UncleEd]

So I've been watching Gummi Bears lately (I had forgotten how great of a show this one is) and have been wondering a few things and maybe someone here knows the answers...


1.) Do the citizens of Dunwyn ever find out about the bears in a series finale or anything?

2.) Do the Great Gummis ever return?

3.) How old is Sunni supposed to be? It was just kind of weird with her and Gusto being involved because he seems a lot older than she is.

4.) Has anyone ever wondered where the rest of the Gummi Bears of Gummi Glenn are? I mean Sunni and Cubbi are very young but where did their parents go? We know Grammi and Zummi grew up together but they don't seem involved. I've always suspected that Grammi is the cubs (and everyones) real grandma (except Zummi's)

5.) Is it ever explained why Duke Igthorne hates King Gregor so much? In one the the episodes it's said that Igthorne was once the greatest knight of Dunwynn but I'd like to have seen a flashback show on his downfall and why the Ogres accepted him as their ruler.

6.) Wasn't there a female witch that Igthorne sometimes worked with that he had a thing for?



I hope someone knows the answers. It's hard waiting for vol. 2.

[slave2moonlight]

Well, I don't think I saw every single episode of the later ones, but I may have, so let me take a stab at some of these. From what I think I know about the show, which has always been a fave of mine (and I can't wait for the next DVD set!), here are my answers:

1. I don't think the Dunwynians ever find out.

2. As far as I recall, they do not, but the Gummi Glen Gummies do find more bears, specifically the Barbic Gummies that live in an ancient Gummi city. Those are the episodes that I don't know as well though and may have missed some of.

3. As I recall, Sunni is implied to be a teenager, and I get the impression from the show that Gusto is an adult, but just barely. Young adult/college age I guess you could say. Some folks have issues with that sort of age difference, some don't, ha. I think people are a little overly uptight about age differences nowadays. Perhaps he's a little older than "college age," but hey, back then you'd have really old human guys marrying young teens, so I can buy the idea of animals doing it.

4. I probably have wondered about this before, but all I can say is I don't really get the impression that any of them are closely related, except the possibility of Grammi being the real grandmother of Sunni and Cubbi. But I'm doubtful about that too.

5. Not sure. I think whatever was shown/said in the first DVD set was probably all that was ever said about his past. What you mentioned is all I remember.

6. Yes, Lady Bane. I don't recall how much of a witch she really was.

[dvdjunkie]

Excuse me....but this is the age thing creeping in and I just have to say this:

It's a cartoon, folks!!! It's just a cartoon. Who cares? Plot, what plot? It's just a cartoon. And a poorly drawn one at that.

[Disney-Fan]

And you're an animation fan... Why?

[UncleEd]

I know the first 3 seasons worth of Gummi Bears best too because those aired Saturday mornings on NBC and when they joined the Disney Afternoon they were on before I got home from school. I got home at 3:30 and Gummi Bears aired at 2:30 and Ducktales was at 3:00.


I can't remember Lady Bane but I now recall the name. Thanks! I don't remember the cave Gummis though.


Well, I always thought Gusto was in his late 20's because when Gruffi and Tummi find him he is building that dragon statue on the side of the volcano and says he's labored on it for 12 years. So how young could he have been when he started? I'd guess 14 or possible 15. So that would make him 26 or 27 when he's rescued. I always thought Sunni was younger than a teenager. I always thought that her and Kella were the same age range and judging by Kella's design I'd have said she was 12 or almost 13. So if you have a 27 year old and a 12 year old that's creepy any way you look at it, even if they are bears because they are civilized bears. It Sunni were 27 and Gusto in his late 30's or early 40's it wouldn't be as creepy, just like real life.

"It's a cartoon, folks!!! It's just a cartoon. Who cares? Plot, what plot? It's just a cartoon. And a poorly drawn one at that. "

DVDJunkie - If you don't like Gummi Bears that's fun but don't mock it because you don't. I hadn't seen it in close to 20 years and I found it to be quite charming. Rescue Rangers and Darkwing Duck aren't nearly as fun for me to watch now as Gummi Bears and Ducktales have been. Furthermore, dismissing plot just because something is animated is a lame excuse why it doesn't have to have any logic. Good story mechanicss are universal in ANY and ALL mediums period. If you don't like it then just don't read the thread or better yet post in it. Thank you.

[slave2moonlight]

Excuse me....but this is the age thing creeping in and I just have to say this:

It's a cartoon, folks!!! It's just a cartoon. Who cares? Plot, what plot? It's just a cartoon. And a poorly drawn one at that.

Well, as for the age thing, I agree but was just addressing a question that had been asked.

As for the show and plot, anyone who enjoys the show would care, as it's one of Disney's and America's best animated television shows ever and had one of the more interesting plots that did get more complicated as the show went on. It was hardly poorly drawn compared to most American television animation at the time, and was the real TV animation groundbreaker for Disney that deserves some respect. Really, "It's just a cartoon, who cares?" is something a Disney fan should never say.

[slave2moonlight]

Well, they weren't cave Gummis, they were barbarians but lived in an ancient Gummi city.

Back to the age thing though, at times Sunni acts younger and I see what you mean that she hung out with Calla who seemed somewhere between 12 and 14, but I always got the vibe that Sunni was a teen and feel they even might have referred to her as a teenager once or twice (though I could be mistaken). At times she acted like someone in her later teens, at other times earlier teens, so it's hard to say, but I never thought of Gusto as being anything other than in his 20s, and so I don't think it's all that weird. I don't think Sunni was supposed to be the equivalent of a 12 or 13 year old. She usually seemed older than that to me.

[UncleEd]

I just got a set of 12 Gummi Bears PVCs on Ebay. Yay! They weremade by Applause in 1985. I wonder if they ever made Gummi Glenn? I was too young to remember. I did get a plush Zummi that Christmas though.


I wonder if Gummi Bears age as fast as Humans like the Gargoyles do? I still say Gusto has to be in his late 20's based on how long it took him to build his dragon. Sunni can't be older than 14 though. She's portrayed where she's not a little girl and not an adult. I always figured Cubbi was 8 or 9. By the way, won't it be weird when Cubbi grows up that his name is still Cubbi?

[bennyb98]

I seem to remember one episode where the Great Gummis were summoned and we saw the ships but were turned away because it was a trap that was set for them. Hope that helps.

[UncleEd]

Hey, I remember that too! Kind of...


Here's another question. Do you think that Gregor is grooming Cavin to be the new king since Cavin and Kella get on so well? In the first shows he is cold to the boy but later on he is like a father figure.

And has anyone ever wondered what happened to Cavin's parents? He has a grandfather who visited in an episode or two but isn't he awfully young to be on his own? And what's with this grandfather dumping him off while he goes off exploring?

[Chernabog_Rocks]

I'm assuming Cavins parents are deceased prior to the show, of course the first episode could have mentioned why but I don't remember for sure. I think Calla is to be next ruler since she's next in line for the throne, but whoever she gets married to would be King. As for the Grampa...I guess it's because Cavin was training to be a knight so the Grandtfather couldn't exactly take Cavin off exploring as well.

[Prudence]

I've never seen this series, and I now want to! This thread has intrigued me!

[Mason_Ireton]

You've never seen Gummi Bears?? bummer, that's alright. We can catch you up on it.... Gummi Bears was one of my fav. show and I totaly forgot bout it till UD annouced it'd be coming to dvd. This series has charm, wits, less crude jokes and has wonderfuly characters to warm up to.

[Prudence]

Heh, I've never seen it! I watched What-a-Mess. x) Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't have understood the plot of Gummi Bears very well at the time. I was only a year old when the series ended, as opposed to Mason's "wise" three years.

[Mason_Ireton]

I can't believe it......You're actualy right bout my age when Gummi Bears came out... What's What A Mess? I vaguely remember that show and all I remember was a speggeti haired dog who looked like a rag doll or something....

[Prudence]

Of course I'm right. You're two years my senior; it doesn't take a genius to work out the math involved in going to the late 80s and early 90s with this in mind. As to What-a-Mess, I also thought he had spaghetti ears until recently. I think we're just remembering a time when he fell into spaghetti. It was a series about an Afghan hound named Prince Amir of Kanjin, although everyone called him What-a-Mess because he was always landing himself in messes (although he was trying to do what he thought was the right thing nearly every time; he was simply followed around by Murphy's Law). Episodes usually ended with him fainting or going to sleep from exhaustion after the deeds were done.

Heh. What-a-Mess somewhat reminds me of myself, and that was the first show I ever watched!

We've spammed enough. Back to the original topic, full of questions that I cannot answer.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Excuse me....but this is the age thing creeping in and I just have to say this:

It's a cartoon, folks!!! It's just a cartoon. Who cares? Plot, what plot? It's just a cartoon. And a poorly drawn one at that.

"Just a cartoon"? Is there humour or irony in there somewhere, or are you just seriously grumpy now?

The classic theatrical 7-minute shorts of the 30s-50s usually didn't have much in terms of plot. The animated TV shows of the 80s and 90s did, though. I guess I might never consider the Gummi Bears a classic, but it wasn't really bad, was it...?

[UncleEd]

Gummi Bears has quickly become almost as well done as Gargoyles in my eyes. I had not seen it in years. I was 5 when it premiered and 11 when it left the Disney Afternoon but I didn't get to see it much there. I remember most of the first 3 season shows vividly. These aired on NBC. (I remember the Wuzzles on Saturday morning in their first run too.) I had forgotten how well thought out some of these are. These aren't layers and layers of story like Gargoyles was but a back history evolved that definately gave it more depth than the rest of the Disney Afternoon shows. You can definately see a lot of influence on what would end up in Gargoyles in this cutesy looking show.


I wonder if they ever did a show where Igthorne tried to wed Calla to become King?

My point was Cavin's grandfather shouldn't have been traveling if he had a grandson to look after.


Here's another question. Igthorne knows that Cavin and Calla know about the Gummi Bears too so why doesn't anyone else in Dunywynn find out through this connection. Surely Igthorne would know they know and say something. I don't know if I'd buy the excuse that they would think he's lying though.

It would be cool if there was a Gummi Bears comic book for 12 issues to give a climax to this series of the Great Gummi's returning, Dunwynn finding out, and Igthorne's back history and quest to be king.


Speaking of the cartoon shorts of old and the 80's and 90's TV cartoons, Gummi Bears has made me sad at how well the voice acting was. Today's cartoons just don't have the personality in the vocal performace anymore. Anyone else ever notice this too?