Pinocchio (profanity in a disney movie?)

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:58 pm

Looking at something like Ursula is far worse than saying jackass.

DisneyLover27 · Post by **DisneyLover27** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:24 pm

jennydumas · Post by **jennydumas** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:05 pm

PeterPanfan wrote:Looking at something like Ursula is far worse than saying jackass.

lmao!

MK Sharp · Post by **MK Sharp** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:48 am

See, this is why I like Flip The Frog cartoons, where they unequivocably use words like "damn" and "hell", thus removing the need for debate.

But the less said about Bosko's Picture Show, the better...

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:27 pm

Aaah, good old Flip!

Ray Pointer · Post by **Ray Pointer** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:43 pm

I don't know the age or educational level of the people asking about the appropriate uses of legitimate words such as "Jack Ass," and "Hell," but this is only a sad reflection of the state of education today. As already explained, "Jack Ass" is a proper term pertaing to a male of that species.

If anyone has read the BIBLE, "Hell" is contained within the text many times. It is the use and context of the words that makes them vulgar. As an example, I got into hot water at another forum for making reference to the word, "cock"as used in THE EXOCIST. As anyone with a level of literacy knows, this is a term pertaining to a rooster. Hence the character, Cock Robin, terms and titles such as "Cock of the Walk," and other expressions such as "going off half-cocked," or being a bit too "cocky."

Again it is context that comes into play here. Anyone seeing anything dirty or vulgar in these terms need only look towards themselves for the smut since it exists in their own minds, or is a result of what they wish it to be and not what is actually is. But in a "culture" so riddled with vulgarity, it is not surprising that these conclusions are drawn since it seems that people today only learn the worst aspects of the language without learning the rest. Again, it's education, stupid!

Big Disney Fan · Post by **Big Disney Fan** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:57 pm

Ray Pointer wrote:As an example, I got into hot water at another forum for making reference to the word, "cock"as used in THE EXOCIST. As anyone with a level of literacy knows, this is a term pertaining to a rooster. Hence the character, Cock Robin, terms and titles such as "Cock of the Walk," and other expressions such as "going off half-cocked," or being a bit too "cocky."

Well said there, Ray! As a reward, I think you should be given a nice "cocktail" drink. That is, of course, if you're old enough to have alcohol.

REINIER · Post by **REINIER** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:19 pm

MK Sharp wrote:Is "jackass" really rude? My dictionary defines it as meaning a donkey, or a "dolt or blockhead" (two fine words you don't hear enough of these days - but then, it is a 1961 dictionary ), and makes no note of it being vulgar. Maybe it's got ruder in the last 45 years...

(pedant mode on)
And anyway, surely it's only a profanity if it's actually profane i.e. blasphemous.
(pedant mode off)

Good to know some people still use these scruffy old things!

TheValentineBros · Post by **TheValentineBros** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:17 pm

Just to know, the word, jackass is a donkey or a mule. It's sometimes a vulgar word, but it means donkey. A show, "Jackass" has the title saying Jackass. The only 2 Disney animated classics with the vulger words were "Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)" for being the first G-rated film to say damn, and also, the second movie to say hell, and speaking of hell... "Sleeping Beauty (1959)" for a Disney villian saying the word, "hell" in a G-rated film.

PixarFan2006 · Post by **PixarFan2006** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:05 am

There are a few G-rated movies that used the word "Hell" such as 101 Dalmatians (1961), Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and Cars. It's pretty much like using the S-word in PG movies.

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:37 am

I came in too late to not repeat the others, but this thread wins the Hell of a Jackass Award.

TheValentineBros · Post by **TheValentineBros** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:10 am

...and look at it this way. Jackass is nothing wrong. Only "hell" and "damn" are.

And what, I heard that only "Hunchback of Notre Dame," "Sleeping Beauty," & "101 Dalmatians" said hell & damn?!? Well, "Sleeping Beauty" said hell. What's next for a G-rated film, "Crap?"

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:12 am

Ah, I stand corrected. This thread wins the Hell of a Damned Jackass Award.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:16 am

Do you think 'The Three Caballeros' will be banned because of Donald openly acknowledging he is gay?

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:59 am

Prudence wrote:Ah, I stand corrected. This thread wins the Hell of a Damned Jackass Award.

Too funny, Prudence!

And, ichabod, isn't it Panchito who says that all 3 of them are gay?

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:09 am

blackcauldron85 wrote:
Prudence wrote:Ah, I stand corrected. This thread wins the Hell of a Damned Jackass Award.
Too funny, Prudence!

And, ichabod, isn't it Panchito who says that all 3 of them are gay?

Meaning "happy" in the context. Don't you know that the Fairy Godmother tells Cinderella to be gay when she leaves for the ball?

"Have a good time! Dance! Be gay! Now off you go, you're on your way!"

Ugly Pig · Post by **Ugly Pig** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:06 pm

PixarFan2006 wrote:There are a few G-rated movies that used the word "Hell" such as 101 Dalmatians (1961), Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and Cars.

Doesn't that depend on the context of the word use, though? I mean, literally talking about Hell, as in a place where lost souls are eternally tormented, is not the same as using "hell" as a swear word (as in "why the hell is this even worth discussing?!").

gardener14 · Post by **gardener14** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:18 pm

Speaking of the word ass being used in a Disney movie...I was surprised recently to hear the terms "ass hole" and "bad ass mother" used multiple times in Disney's film Cool Runnings. It's rated PG, but it does have Disney's name on it, and the repeated use of these terms just struck me as odd...not wrong, but odd. I was similarly struck when I heard "shit" used in Flight of the Navigator, Journey of Natty Gann, and A Far Off Place. Interestingly, these are among my favorite Disney movies and they come from one of several eras when I think Disney was making superb live action films.

Jackass was certainly not a swear in Pinocchio, but the films I mentioned above certainly contain profanity, so Disney certainly is (or at one time was) not afraid to associate its name with profanity.

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:44 pm

ichabod wrote:Do you think 'The Three Caballeros' will be banned because of Donald openly acknowledging he is gay?

Well, every cartoon starring him would also have to go...what with the kind of things that sailor suit could imply.

UncleEd · Post by **UncleEd** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:11 pm

"If anyone has read the BIBLE, "Hell" is contained within the text many times. It is the use and context of the words that makes them vulgar."

I've met people who prefess to be Christians and think that in the Ten Commandments where it's talking about coveting your neighbor's ass that it's about wanted your neighbors rear end. Sigh...people can be so stupid...

I don't really consider Hunchback's use of "Damnation" to be the same as using "damn" in a film. The reason being it's part of an alphabet lesson that is true to the time of fire and brimstone teachings in the Catholic Church. That makes it used in the proper or at least a more high brow context than just some bloke shouting "Damn!" when he gets mad.

The wpord "Hell" in Hunchback is the same thing. When you refer to Hell as a place it's not considered vulgar. But if you use it to pepper your language it becomes a swear word.

I've always wondered how the f work came to be used to pepper language at all because if you consider what it means it can't be used in the context most people use it in.

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