Reusing earlier years animation!!!!

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Is it OK to reuse animation from earlier work?

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Joe Carioca wrote:Wow, did I miss something? :-)[/b]
Many scenes of Wart in The Sword in the Stone and the boy in Small One use animation of Mowgli from The Jungle Book.
The Jungle Book uses same animation of certain characters throughout the film.
The Rescuers uses animation of the crocodile from Peter Pan.
101 Dalmatians uses the background art of Big Ben from Peter Pan.
Also, the prison dungeon in Aladdin is very similar to that in The Black Cauldron.
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Billy Moon wrote:
Joe Carioca wrote:Wow, did I miss something? :-)[/b]
Many scenes of Wart in The Sword in the Stone and the boy in Small One use animation of Mowgli from The Jungle Book.
The Jungle Book uses same animation of certain characters throughout the film.
The Rescuers uses animation of the crocodile from Peter Pan.
101 Dalmatians uses the background art of Big Ben from Peter Pan.
Also, the prison dungeon in Aladdin is very similar to that in The Black Cauldron.
Actualy, it is "The Jungle Book" which uses animation from "The Sword in the Stone"! "Sword" is from 1963 and "Jungle" is from 1967 ;) You're right about "The Small One", though.

Good observations. :up:
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Post by PheR »

ouh! maybe Bambi's Mother is a Ghost!!, and she's still in the forest. :D

yes, I saw the same animation in some classics, from the same film...like Kaa's falling from the tree in Jungle Book; or the kids laughing in Robin Hood (it is used three times in the movie!!)
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There is a silly symphony short with a spider that walks in a egyptian tomb. Don't remember it's name but it's on the silly-treasure dvd.
The same animation was re used in the short "the mad doctor" but here it's mickey that's walking in the corridors.

Fans like us will notice re-use animation but I doubt that joe six-pack will notice or even care.

One thing I really hate is re use of animation in the same film! The Jungle Book has some of this: In the scenes where Bageera is running in trees it and when Kaa get's stuck because there's a knot on his tale, they use the same animation (and joke!) twice.
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Sethp wrote:There is a silly symphony short with a spider that walks in a egyptian tomb. Don't remember it's name...
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Egyptian Melodies :wink:
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My main problem with it, especially the longer examples (RH/SW & BB/SB) is that is lowers the animators morale. If you read through Nine Old Men or Illusion of Life, many of the animators--Ollie, Ward, Frank, Marc--cite these examples of the cheapening of animation and therefore the cheapening of their own work. One of the things that made the early studio work so well was the competetive atmosphere, leading to higher standards. Corp decisions to reuse animation--ESPECIALLY in features--squashed that impulse.
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Joe Carioca wrote:Actualy, it is "The Jungle Book" which uses animation from "The Sword in the Stone"! "Sword" is from 1963 and "Jungle" is from 1967 ;)
I knew that, and that's what I ment to write... I feel so stupid. Well, I have the Friday afternoon to blame for that one. :)

More: Ben and Me uses animation of Lucifer from Cinderella.
Ummm... there were others. Don't remember them anymore. I guess I should blame the Monday afternoon for it this time... :roll:
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Post by PatrickvD »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but in Jungle Book, the scene where the monkeys and baloo and bagheera are runnign around trying to catch mowgli, well almost identical moves can be found in wind in the willows, from Ichabod & Mr Toad... And finding out something like this is always a big disapointment to me. It shows a lack of creativity... especially in the movies fromthe late 60's and seventies...
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Very interesting article I found on Digg.

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Robin Hood is the WORST when it comes to reused animation. It seems like just about every frame of that movie was characters traced over older animation. In addition to the animation lifted from Snow White, the entire Phont King of England number is pretty much frame-for-frame traced from I Wanna Be Like You from The Jungle Book.

I still enjoy Robin Hood for some reason, but animation-wise, it's possibly the WORST of the Animated Classics for that reason.
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Cool link! Weird/funny images. I've always heard about certain Disney films relying on recycled animation, but it's nice to see visuals of specific examples.
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The Rescuers has a bit of recycled animation as well, but AFAIK, only of previous bits from the film. In particular, watch the scenes where Snoops runs down the stairs, and when Penny is brought in by Nero and Brutus.

It would seem that animation recycling was a particularity of the '70s-era films...no wonder some call it a "dark age".
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Wow, that is really neat how OBVIOUS those pictures are.:) I wonder if they do that with any newer films?
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Post by numba1lostboy »

Cool pics. That's funny how they used (hopefully) to do.

But I think that The Jungle Book was supposed to be that way. I've always noticed it when I've watched it and it's never bothered me. It's always been kinda fun, actually.

...could it be that JB was Walt's last film? Did he die and they still hadn't finished the movie, so they recycled animation?
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"The Phoney King of England" sequence in Robin Hood recycles animation from three films actually: basically the dance sequences from "The Yodel Song" (Snow White), "I Wanna Be Like You" (The Jungle Book), and "Everybody Wants to be a Cat" (The Aristocats). If you look at the band in Robin Hood, you will see that it is a full replica of the cat band from The Aristocats.
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Post by Timon/Pumbaa fan »

There's one that saddens me nobody mentioned! :(

In "The Jungle Book" when Balloo rescues Mowgli from King Louie, the whole "race" scene was copied right out of "The Wind of the Willows" segment from "The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad".

I guess a lot of people still haven't seen that movie. :(
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Wow, someone's got sharp eyes.
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i always noticed the dance fron beauty and the beast, cool :)
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