The Little Mermaid on Broadway

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Yeah changes already. I think they’re probably just experimenting to see what works best and what doesn’t.

The ones I can remember are;

Beyond My Wildest Dreams – I’m not sure if they’ve replaced a verse or added a new verse, but there were defiantly new lyrics on Saturday including the line “I’d scream if I only could”. It was quite early in the song, before the maids and Carlotta’s verse (I think, I can never quite remember everything perfectly unless I’ve seen or heard it a lot).

Finale – the “wedding vow” type verses were cut on Saturday (where he says he’ll be her land and she says she’ll be his tide), it still had the verse about looking to a new horizon before going into the main finale, but I really missed those verses as they were so beautifully written and sung.

There were probably others but those were the most noticeable. I really hope the extra finale verses are put back in, it’s still a beautiful ending but I really missed those extra verses having seen them on opening night.

I didn’t get chance to see Cody (he came out with J. J. on Saturday as well). I’m guessing they alternate nights so Cody would have done the Friday performance.

Meeting Alan was the highlight of my holiday (well joint with seeing TLM). He was a very nice guy. I had to catch him whilst he was on the phone or else he would have walked off, but he waited whilst he finished his call then spoke with me for a few minutes even though it was raining and all he probably wanted to do was get back to his hotel. He was a really nice guy and very open about the show. I told him I loved it and he said that it was terrible as bits of set were missing and the ending wasn’t finished. I guess he knows what it’s meant to be like and comparing it with that whilst we just watched it without that knowledge and thinking it was fantastic. He was very happy that we liked and said we should go back in about two months when it would be more polished. He even signed my Aladdin cassette (my first ever Disney soundtrack) for me so that really made my night (I’ll have to dig out my old scanner and attach it to this computer so I can show you that, but that really is a job for tomorrow).

Don’t worry about the silver one, thanks so much for lending me one! Thursday night was fantastic, best atmosphere I’ve ever known at a show, and the cast door was a great experience as all of the cast were so friendly! I actually bought a Sharpy and went to the cast door again on Saturday to get Eddie’s (Scuttle) autograph as I didn’t see him on Saturday. I also got another poster and got that signed just by Sierra which looks really nice. The cast door on Saturday was the complete opposite of Thursday; we didn’t stay long as I only wanted to meet Eddie, thank Norm and get one more autograph from Sierra, but there was hardly anyone there compared to the mad rush on Thursday. Norm was a really nice guy; a friend of his had come to see the show, so when he came out he gave the guy’s daughter an applause signed by everyone! Norm also said we should come and see the show on Broadway when I thanked him for letting me know to come on Friday to meet Alan. I’m thinking when Alan Menken and Norm Lewis tell me to do something I should do it (now I just need to find the money…) Sierra was really nice, she actually recognised Jane and I and thanked us for coming again!

Ok, I tried sleeping but I can’t so I’m going to try some type of review/summary now. Major spoilers will follow but most of you probably don’t care about that anyway ;);


Overture
The opening overture is very nice. I was surprised that they included music from Act 2 in the opening overture. A very nice piece of music, but given it’s by Alan Menken that’s not really a surprise (ok I’ll admit I’m biased and Menken is my favorite Disney composer and his films are my favorite Disney films).

The show opens with a brief underwater scene, where we quickly see Flounder (J. J. Singleton/Cody Hanford) and some other fish. The water effects are done extremely well. A shadow passes overhead, the fish swim away, and Eric’s ship comes down from above stage! I can’t explain just how fantastic this set was, it perfectly conveyed when you were above and below water, and the ship coming down was an amazing sight.

Fathoms Below/Where I Belong
When this wasn’t leaked with the rest of the demos I thought it would have some of the extended lyrics from the music behind the magic demo. What we actually get is much nicer, and finally Eric (Sean Palmer) sings! Yes, Sean has a wonderful voice (more on that later), but what I really liked about this song is that straight away it set Eric up as a deeper character than he was in the movie. In this one song we learn that he doesn’t want to marry a fancy Princess but wants someone that will be his equal at sea. Sure the married by your next birthday plot may be swiped straight from Aladdin, but it works for the story. The lead singer for Fathoms Below has a much deeper voice than the original movie version (or so it seemed to me). There’s also some great horseplay between Eric and Grimsby (Jonathon Freeman) whilst the others are singing if you watch closely.

Back under the sea we get our introduction to Triton (Norm Lewis) and Sebastian (Tituss Burgess). This is very similar to the original movie version except there is more exposition, linking the characters closer together. We learn that the celebration is for Triton’s victory over his sister Ursula (Sherie Rene Scott). We are also told that Ariel has the gift of her mother’s voice (and her mother here is clearly stated to have passed away).

Daughters of Triton
Exactly the same as the demo (which was slightly longer than the original film version) expect the sisters repeat “sister Ariel” at the end. It’s a great little introduction to the sisters (who will play a slightly larger role later) and Sebastian’s line at the end, “not again child, I was counting on you the most,” was so well delivered that you feel sorry for him!

This is also the first time you get a real look at the mermaid costumes. The actors and actresses were a kind of skirt to cover their legs and hide the heelies that allow them to glide along as if they’re swimming. The tail comes off just below the waist and the effect is far better than it sounds on paper, especially when combined with the set which sometimes hides the skirt and you only see the tails.

The World Above
Moving back to the surface (I really can’t put into words just how amazing the set and water effects were) we are introduced to Ariel (Sierra Boggess) with this new song. As an introduction to Ariel this works extremely well. It doesn’t showcase Sierra’s voice as much as the later numbers, but she still sounds beautiful. If you had any doubts about her being right for the part this song would put you at ease, the first time you see her she just looks and sounds the part so completely it is like the cartoon Ariel has come to life before your eyes. She is absolutely gorgeous and sings like an angel.

After the song Flounder comes up to Ariel and she teases him about being a guppy before showing him the fork she found. There’s no mention of the shark or the ship wreck, instead she says she found it in the wake of a giant ship. This leads straight to Scuttle (Eddie Korbich) and the Gulls. Scuttle’s introduction is exactly like the film, staring at Ariel through the wrong end of the telescope, and it still makes me laugh even 15 years later!

Human Stuff
Very similar to the demo version (the only difference I noticed is the line about the necklace “missing several carrots, but how about that smell” has been dropped and replaced with a line about hats). I loved this song in the demos and I loved it in the show. Eddie and the guys who play the other Gulls (I feel bad not knowing their names) are extremely good comic actors and it really works for this song.

This song is followed by one very similar to the film, Ariel realises she’s missed the concert and swims home. Even the dialogue is very similar to the film as Sebastian takes over the scolding of Ariel! This was a fantastic little scene, Norm was fantastic as the overprotective father, especially after he decided he was too hard on her as soon as she’d left. Tituss was equally great, you really get a Sebastian vibe from him. I loved his reaction to being told he had to watch Ariel (“but she’s a mermaid and I’m just a little crustacean, surely you want some one a bit higher up the evolutionary chain!”) and how he just ignored this order straight away when a pretty fish came along (“work now, baby-sit later)

I Want the Good Times Back
Now we come to the introduction of Flotsam (Tyler Maynard) and Jetsam (Derrick Baskin) and more importantly the introduction of Ursula. Before the song we get further back story that has been added for the musical; Triton and Ursula are the children of Poseidon and when he died he left half of the sea to Triton and half to Ursula. Triton also got the Trident and Ursula got the Shell (much bigger than the simple necklace of the film).

I actually like the song. Especially the opening of it where she sings about how she maimed and tortured “just a tad”. I think seeing it a second night helped. It took a while for “Wasting Away” to grow on me and this song was the same. Also nearly every song in the first half was sung better on Saturday (the second half was about equal bar a technical hitch in the final battle on Saturday) so that may be why I liked this more than Little Merboy. I also liked Ursula’s “sing or I’ll turn you into handbags” to Flotsam and Jetsam.

I really like the costume as well, it was much better than I thought they would be able to do on stage. Sure she’s not a huge as she was in the film, but the look she has works really well.

Like the demo of “Wasting Away”, this song if where she decided to get at Triton via Ariel.

Part of Your World
AMAZING! You can see with this song that Sierra has made the role her own. It’s not operatic like that brief clip on the official site (that really needs to be changed asap). I had shivers down my spine both nights listening to her sing this, it was fantastic. No changes in the lyrics, exactly like it was in the film.

Following this Sebastian comes to see Ariel and starts to lecture her about singing more when a shadow passes overhead and we go back to the surface with Eric’s ship. He’s still chasing Ariel’s voice (which he heard in the opening and refused to return to land until he’d found the source). This plays very like the film, with Ariel, Flounder and Scuttle looking up at Eric from the water, Scuttle making a great comment about how he’s never seen a human so close up before and how ugly Eric was with his chiselled jaw, square jaw and “two eyes the self same color”.

Storm at Sea
Musically I think this is very similar to the film score. The storm effect for the ship is very well done, as is Eric drowning and Ariel saving him (pushing him back up above the stage), then the set moves in a way that feels like you’re racing to the surface and suddenly Eric is lying on the beach with Ariel looking over him and Scuttle checking for a pulse in his foot (Eddie really is fantastic as Scuttle).

Part of Your World (Reprise)
Just like the film, Ariel sings the start to Eric, then hides on the rocks as Grimsby arrives. Eric tells him of this girl who saved him and her amazing voice and Grimsby dismisses it as a memory of his mother, when Eric says she’s real Grimsby replies “Of course she is my boy. As real as a siren. As real as a mermaid on the rocks.” Which leads into Ariel’s final verse (Sierra again absolutely amazing here). And if you watch closely Flotsam and Jetsam are watching from the back of the stage.

She’s in Love
Fantastic new song for Ariel’s sisters and Flounder. It really reminded me of some of the music from Hercules (especially the muses and “I Won’t Say I’m in Love”). I can’t comment on Cody as both performances I saw had J. J. as Flounder but that boy can sing. It’s just a really great cheesy number as the sisters try to figure out why Ariel’s acting so strange (“she’s even got new shells”)

I really loved Flounder as Triton quizzed him about Ariel; “I didn’t know she was in love until the second chorus”. And his quick exit when Sebastian mentions Eric.

Her Voice
There’s very little difference between this and the demo (it’s now “dawn steals by” rather than “slips by” and there’s some dialogue added between verses). It’s a fantastic song and Sean’s voice is incredible. The way he ends the song is great, just like in the demo he starts quiet and the power in his voice just grows with the music. It’s during this song that Grimsby proposes the idea of a singing contest to find who owns the voice.

The World Above (Reprise)
Back under the sea in Ariel’s grotto Ariel is looking at Eric’s telescope (and sounding scarily like Jodie Benson). As in the film Triton comes in and destroys the grotto. The song is very similar to the one in the demos (which I guess means the reprise may have been written before the main song). Norm is fantastic in this scene, I love the way he practically spits out the words “this filth you bring here” as he throws the telescope to the floor and breaks it. The song ends on the destruction of the grotto, Triton leaves and Ariel tells Sebastian that she hates her father.

Under the Sea
Ariel says she’s going to go to Eric’s palace and sing for him, like in the film Sebastian tries to prevent that, cheer her up and prove that life is better under the sea. Like the Broadway versions of “Be Our Guest” and “Gaston” this is extended by a dance number in the middle. There’s no new lyrics but the end is repeated to give it extra length. Tituss is wonderful in this song, he just has so much energy and enthusiasm. If I was to pick one song that improved the most between Thursday and Saturday it would be this one as it had so much more energy. Sebastian seems to have developed an eye for the ladies as he’s again distracted by a female whilst Ariel and Flounder slip away. One touch I loved in this song was that Sebastian acted like he was conducting the main orchestra

Sweet Child
Ariel plans to run away and is waiting for Flounder when Flotsam and Jetsam appear and persuade her to go to the sea witch, or as Ariel calls her “Aunt Ursula”. I must admit I never really liked this song in the demos, but seeing Derrick and Tyler sing it on stage and the way it fits the plot, it has really grown on me. And it works; Ariel is mad at her father, wants to be with Eric and given how protective Triton is it’s not hard to imagine Ariel and her sisters don’t know the full extent of Ursula’s evil. The eels play on her desires and get her to Ursula, setting up “Poor Unfortunate Souls”

Poor Unfortunate Souls
Pretty much word for word from the films (I remember one line was changed on Saturday, I can’t remember which line but I remember thinking “why change that?”). Sherie sings it well, and the addition of the line “not just any ink darling, use mine” makes it a “blood” contract and that much creepier. It’s a powerful end number and Ariel’s change to human which ends Act 1 is extremely well done (like Eric’s drowning earlier in the show).

Entr’acte
Act 2 begins with a short instrumental entr’acte. It’s shorter than the overture but very well done.

Positoovity
The show starts again right where it left off. Ariel is now struggling to stand and Scuttle tries to encourage her. I loved Sebastian’s line “What would your father say? He’d say I’m gonna kill me a crab that’s what he’d say!” This song hasn’t really changed since the demos but it’s a superb song (and I can’t say enough how good Eddie is as Scuttle) and a good opening to Act 2 with plenty of dancing.

Eric comes in at the end and shoos the gulls away, as Ariel falls into his arms he takes her back to the palace to get cleaned up and have a hot meal.

Beyond My Wildest Dreams
One of the best new songs added for this show (my girlfriend likes this best, I prefer “If Only”). As I mentioned above there have been some lyric changes even since this started. The main addition since the demo is a verse by Carlotta and the maids, with the maids asking what Eric sees in her. It’s a wonderful song (if you’ve not heard the demo and can wait then do as Sierra sings it beautifully and the additional lyrics just make the song even better) that starts with Ariel in the bath and ends with her dressed and ready for dinner.

Les Poissons
This is almost identical to the film if not a little more over the top. It’s really well played using a table cloth to cover Tituss and he just moves his hat (with eyes) around to represent Sebastian as Chef Louis tries to catch him.

Les Poisson (Reprise)
Chef Louis presents dinner to Eric, Ariel and Grimsby (following a near exact recreation of Ariel combing her hair with a fork and blowing smoke at Grimsby). This basically replaces Sebastian running across the table to Ariel with a big chase between Louis and Sebastian that disrupts dinner. But it does serve one very important purpose, in all the excitement it shows Eric that Ariel is not prim and proper like the other girls he’s met and is “swinging from the chandeliers”

One Step Close
Another new song for Eric (and probably my favorite new song of those added that weren’t in the demos). This song has Eric teaching Ariel to dance and explaining that you can speak without saying a word. It’s the first real romantic moment between them (barring POYW reprise but Eric was out cold for most of that) and it is very well done, really adding depth to Eric and showing him falling for the girl as well as the voice (I know he does in the movie as well but it’s much deeper here). Sean does this song really well.

This is followed by Ariel getting into bed and talking with Sebastian who agrees to help her win Eric so she won’t be miserable the rest of her life.

I Want the Good Times Back (Reprise)
Ursula has watched this and is worried that Eric is getting too close to Ariel;
Ursula: The only thing more potent than my black magic
Flotsam/Jetsam: True love?
Ursula: Teenage hormones
She watches Triton ask Flounder where Ariel is (via the Shell) and she then sings a very short reprise about how the good times will be back in 2 days

Kiss the Girl
This has to be one of my favorite scenes in the show. The set for it is gorgeous. There is a nice line from Eric about how other girls wouldn’t even think about coming out in boat with him (again adding more to the relationship than her voice and linking back to his opening song). I liked Sebastian’s line “This is goin nowhere fast” when Eric started talking about the weather! The song is identical to the film (right down to Scuttle’s squawking) and Tituss does it extremely well, I actually preferred this to “Under the Sea”. The only change is the eels electrocute the boat rather than tip it over and Eric decides they’d better head back.

Sweet Child (Reprise)
A nice little reprise about how Ariel has no chance of getting a kiss now. Again superb performances by Derrick and Tyler.

If Only/Her Voice
My personal favorite of the new songs. It starts with just Ariel on stage in bed, Eric is no longer in the start of the song, he comes in only when he starts singing in the demo (his boat comes down and has kind of a starry/see-through type look to it). After Eric does his first verse Sebastian’s reprise from the demos has been added in, followed by a verse from Triton (saying how she’s now been missing 2 days). Then the four sing together (Eric’s “not that voice” comes here), ending on the other three doing “If Only” whilst Eric sings the final verse of “memories fade, etc.” It is an absolutely beautiful song, even after hearing it twice I don’t feel like I’ve taken it in properly and don’t think I’ll be able to until the CD comes out. All four have beautiful voices and when they all came together it was like nothing I’d heard before.

Her Voice (Reprise)
Sebastian (encourage by Flounder) confesses what’s happened to Triton)
Ursula watches via the Shell then sings, mocking Ariel for having no voice

The Contest
The only song from Grimsby (I wish Jonathon Freeman could have had more, he was fantastic as Jafar). This song is mostly the princesses (aka Ariel’s sisters) singing different lyrics to “Part of Your World” to convince Eric that they’re the one. There’s a very beautiful moment at the end when Ariel tries to sing for him and Eric says “I heard every word” and chooses her. Even when he hears Ariel’s voice (from the Shell) he says it doesn’t matter he’s made his choice.

Ursula then arrives at the palace and floods it, claiming Ariel as her own (3 days have now passed) and revealing to Eric that she was really a mermaid. This is where the show differs most from the film. Ursula does not become human (probably because she could never have an identical singing voice and they don’t want to use more than ah ah ah pre-recorded) and Ariel never changes back into a mermaid. Triton arrives demanding that Ursula changes Ariel back. Triton agrees to give up his throne and Trident in return for Ariel’s freedom.

Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise)
Ursula sings about how the power of Poseidon has once again been made whole. This is probably my favorite of the Ursula reprises and Sherie does it well.

Ariel grabs the shell and threatens to break it. Ursula laughs and says that if she does that her voice will be lost forever. Eric then swims down from above and grabs the Trident from Ursula. Eric gives the Trident to Triton as Ariel breaks the Shell. Eric swimming down from above is very well done. Triton then blasts Ursula away.

Eric then asks Triton for his permission to marry Ariel, to which Triton responds it is her choice. Ariel nods and kisses him, them says “Eric”, her voice restored.

If Only (Reprise)
Norm then does a fantastic reprise of “If Only”, saying if he could make time stop he would, before going on to say (in dialogue) that he should have seen she was growing up and needed to make her own choices (he gave the kingdom its independence but denied it to his daughter). There’s a lovely moment where Ariel asks his forgiveness and he replies, “For what? Growing up? I’ll think about it”. You get a very strong sense of family from Sierra and Norm throughout the whole show, but it’s especially strong in this scene.

Finale Ultimo
When I saw this on Thursday it became my favorite ending to any Disney Broadway musical (I can’t judge Tarzan or On the Record as I never saw them, but in terms of just lyrics and additional lyrics TLM is still the best). It was still the best on Saturday, but I hope they rethink the cuts, the full version was so much better.

Don’t get me wrong, if you’ve never heard the extra verse or two you’ll never miss it (it’s still longer than both film and demo finales) but if you saw it on Thursday (and maybe Friday?) and they don’t put it back in then you’ll probably notice something missing. Either way it’s still the best finale to the best Disney Broadway show and I can’t wait to see it again (even if it does bankrupt me) and the CD can’t come fast enough.

I think that wraps it up for now (this is way too long as it is). I had a great holiday, I can’t believe I actually got to meet Alan Menken and be in the first audience to see The Little Mermaid. It was a dream come true and I wish the show all the best on Broadway, I hope I get chance to see it there (and it better hurry up and get to the West End!).


I really should proof read this but I'm too tired! I can always edit it tomorrow if there's something really wrong with it...
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Thank you for the full, very detailed review, ChrisLyne! I didn't read all of it to avoid some spoiling, but...

Now that's two people who say Triton destroys Ariel's grotto and afterward Sebastian sings "Under the Sea" to cheeer her up. So...you and The Little Merboy are differing...even though you were at the same night! And you saw it twice now.

Anyway, I don't like Ursula using the shell to spy on people. Are Flotsam and Jetsam connected to the shell like their glowing eyes were connected to movie's bubble from her cauldron? It's confusing, and I guess it's not that bad. It's just weird the shell has the spying properties.

If I were doing the musical, whenever Flotsam and Jetsam were spying on people, I would have them hold up a giant see-through circle over the actors they're spying on to convey the magic bubble Ursula used to spy on people in the movie.

And did anyone else notice that The Contest makes The Little Mermaid even more like Cinderella? Ariel wants to be part of another world, like Cinderella who wants to have a better life. An old woman magically gives both girls the chance to be with their prince. Thye have time limits. Cinderella must leave by midnight and Ariel must leave in 3 days if she doesn't get the kiss of true love. Both princes want to track down the girl they love. Cinderella has a shoe, Ariel has a voice. Now, Eric is acting like Cinderella's prince, holding not only a ball to find a girl, but trying to hear which girl has the voice of the one he loves, like Cinderella's prince tried to see which girl had the foot of the one he loves.
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Yeah there was a lot of spoilers in there :oops:

Where did Little Merboy say that? I just checked back a few pages and he also puts The World Above (Reprise) where Triton destroys the Grotto before Under the Sea.

I only saw it twice as I travelled from the UK and when my girlfriend and I arrived in Denver we decided that as we'd come so far we may as well see it twice. We got limited view tickets when we first arrived (Tuesday) and managed to upgrade to full view on Saturday just before the show. In all honesty as we were about to go home and because we loved the show and had dollars left over we did try and go again, but forgot Sunday had an earlier start time so we missed it!

Flotsam and Jetsam are NOT connected to the shell, they spy for Ursula but report to her in person. No glowing eyes or anything like that.

The Shell is said to contain all the dark magic of Poseidon (which I'm guessing makes the Trident the light magic), it's not just a container for Ariel's voice.

I actually hadn't noticed the fact that the contest could draw a link with Cinderella! I'm embarrassed to say my first thought was of the MTI Aladdin Jr. Disney have done where a Prince parade is held for Jasmine (at least according to the site, I've never been able to read the book or see a performance) as I was thinking more of Menken's other works rather than the earlier classics.
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So I'm guessing "That Oughta Show Her" isn't going to appear in the show at this point? Too bad. I was wondering what it would sound like (since I haven't even heard a demo of it). But I think the biggest disappointment is that "All Good Things Must End" was dropped. I would've loved hearing that in the show (with more than a piano for the background music).

As for the changes (from movie to musical), I'm really hoping they change the ending somehow. It doesn't sound very good at all, with Ursula just floating into the palace like that. And I'd rather there was a more physical battle. Also, I'd think it would be better if the celebration were for the anniversary of Triton's defeat over Ursula. It would strengthen Ursula's motivation (years in exile would make you more bitter than one day).

But I like the idea of the conch/nautilus shell being Ursula's side of her father's inheritance, though saying it's the dark side of his power makes him sound slightly evil. In fact, making it "good" would be a reasonable explanation for why Ursula doesn't understand how to work it, considering she's all into the Dark Arts. Also, could someone who's seen the show explain the backstory there? Did Ursula rule the kingdom before Triton, or did she try to take Triton's half of the sea? Or did he try to stop her cruel treatment of her people? And who's the oldest?

Where songs are concerned, I'm REALLY excited to hear "If Only," (the Quartet) "The World Above" and the new songs they have for Ursula (none of which are the same as the demos). And I want to see F & J's performance, considering how good people've been saying they were.
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Thanks for all of that ChrisLyne!!!! I read it all, and it was amazing!!!!

One of the only faults I have with the show is having Ursula's defeat so recent!!!! It should be celebrating the anniversary or something.

As for The World Above, someone recorded their own on youtube using the piano score for the demos, and she sounds WONDERFUL if you ask me. The only complaint I have about the song itself is the fact that it makes Ariel's discovery of the human world soooo recent too.
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You're right, "That Oughta Show Her" isn't in the show at all.

"All Good Things Must End" was probably dropped as Ursula doesn't become human. I'd guess that's why she was given an extra two reprises.

I thought the ending was good, though as I said Menken did comment that the ending was WIP (he said tentacles were missing) so I'm guessing a lot could change.

The backstory is basically that the Kingdom was divided in 2 between Triton and Ursula, she abused her power and tortured her people so Triton banished her. There was nothing said about who was the oldest. As the for shell being purely dark that was more my speculation; Ursula says to Ariel that it contains lots of black magic and that she never let's it out of her sight "imagine what could happen if it fell into the wrong hands".

If Only is fantastic. The World Above is different again to the sheet music that was leaked. It's now one song rather than the song and reprise and the lyrics are slightly different. It is very nice, especially with Sierra's voice. If I remember rightly it doesn't imply this is the first time she's been to the surface and she has the line (like Eric) "this is where I belong".
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ChrisLyne wrote:Where did Little Merboy say that? I just checked back a few pages and he also puts The World Above (Reprise) where Triton destroys the Grotto before Under the Sea.
Oh, sorry. I think I read somewhere else that someone said it didn't happen like that, but there could have been some confusion or misunderstanding. Someone just said that it wouldn't make sense for Ariel to be so sad after her grotto was destroyed and then be happy with Sebastian. But I suppose she's not joining in on the fun of Under the Sea, just watching/enduring it? And did you also see that The Little Merboy said he met you and you're very sweet? :D

I think it makes a lot of sense that Flotsam and Jetsam would tell Ursula what's going on from their own mouths. However, I have read in a number of places that their eyes do glow, but it's done only when it's dark enough to see their fluorescence.

That shell is just bugging me. It should be called a nautilus, should stay a nautilus, and if it contains dark magic that Ursula doesn't know how to use, how can she spy on people? And if Flotsam and Jetsam report to her everything she needs to know, why does she need extra spying?

I like Disney's Divinity's idea about the shell having good magic and that's why Ursula can't use it, and therefore she would think it useless when Ariel is about to break it, and Ariel can get her voice back.

However, it's ideatime! for me: Do you know how gods are often depicted as HUGE? Look at Hercules. So anyway, say there's either a statue or a large tapestry or painting of Poseidon in Triton's palace. Triton sings a little or talks a little about how he was never as big or as powerful as his father, and he wonders if it's because he's not being a good father to Ariel. Ursula's shell is full of dark magic, and she talks about how it's necessary for her survival because she is dark herself. Then, at the end, when Ursula gets the trident, her shell glows and the trident glows and she realizes they needed to work together. She says that it is the balance of good and evil that made Poseidon so great. She becomes huge, and says "At last! I am as powerful as Poseidon! As great as him! As BIG as him!" And she becomes like a goddess, and perhaps she even says so.

Then, Ariel and Eric try to communicate using motions on how to stop Ursula. Eric sings a reprise of "One Step Closer", but it's about being one step closer to defeating Ursula (as well as one step closer to getting Ariel to be with him again). So with their nonverbal team work, they steal the magic shell, and Ursula says she is nothing without her half of the power, the dark half that belongs to her, and perhaps she dies without it or becomes powerless, unable to do any more harm without her magic. Then Ariel gives the shell to her father because she and Eric can communicate without words. But Triton says that he doesn't need to be as big as his father to know that what really makes a father great is giving his children what they need (and this parallels Poseidon giving his chirldren what they needed, Triton the trident and Ursula the shell). He gives Ariel back the shell, she breaks it, and she gets her voice back ('cause it's freeing her voice like in the film). Tridon gives her her voice and her freedom. Happily ever after.

I never knew Aladdin's Jr. musical had a Prince Parade for Jasmine. Neato.

I agree with tsom and Disney's Divinity that the concert should be to mark the anniversary of Ursula's defeat. Otherwise, how can she be reminiscing about "The Good Times" so soon?

Tsom, it appears Ariel has been to the surface before "The World Above", as she already met Scuttle and everything. I guess they changed the song over time to reflect that.

And once again thank you ChrysLyne for giving us hope from Alan Menkin himself that the ending will be changed and be better!

OOOHHH HUGE QUESTION!: Has Ursula made deals with any other merpeople? Has she turned anyone into polyps in her garden of poor unfortunate souls?
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I cannot explain how hapy I am that the new musical is loved by you guys! That makes me feel so hopeful for it; and I can just tell from your review that it is going to be IMMENSE on Broadway. I can only hope that it will come to the UK sometime. Do you think it will be a relly, really long time before it does? hmmmm .. ..

Just one question though; what are the costumes like? Or what did you think of them? As the reviewer on the Little Mermiad Broadway page didnt like them, as they wernt magnifcant enough. But that was the charm of them I thought, in the movie, simplicity. Do the costumes refelct the moive? Or are they dull, like the reviewer says?

Gosh, I am so thrilled that it was so great! And that it really feels if Ariel is alive on stage; thats the best part!

Anyway, if anyone could help, that would be amazing :)
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when i was a little kid i went to a local production of the Disney movies every so often, the little mermaid was always the most exciting.

they kind of used the tail and skirt techinique they use in the musical, but instead of skirt they used pants that we couldn't see in the dark, the light was dimmed and all the fishes and mermaids lit up because they had a touch of glow in the dark paint, but not too much, it wasn't totally glow-in-the-dark... i don't really know how to explain it...it wasn't cheapend by the glowing, it looked pretty real
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Sorry I've not posted more, had a busy weekend!
I think it makes a lot of sense that Flotsam and Jetsam would tell Ursula what's going on from their own mouths. However, I have read in a number of places that their eyes do glow, but it's done only when it's dark enough to see their fluorescence.
Maybe they did, but I didn't notice it. Then again I was never really that close to the stage. I was in the mezz on Thursday and at the back of the stalls on Saturday so it could just be that I couldn't tell/didn't notice.
That shell is just bugging me. It should be called a nautilus, should stay a nautilus, and if it contains dark magic that Ursula doesn't know how to use, how can she spy on people? And if Flotsam and Jetsam report to her everything she needs to know, why does she need extra spying?
It's never said Ursula doesn't know how to use it. She only uses it to spy twice when Flotsam and Jetsam are with her. I think it's done to move between scenes and keep the characters on the stage. So rather than go Ursula/Flotsam/Jetsam on for dialogue then off, Triton and Sebastian on for dialogue then off and Ursula and co back on for song it allows Triton and Sebastian to come on for a few minutes and give there exposition as Ursula spies on them. It does work very well when you see it.
And once again thank you ChrysLyne for giving us hope from Alan Menkin himself that the ending will be changed and be better!
I don't know how much will be changed (certainly don't want anyone getting their hopes up that they'll add in Vanessa or anything like that). I think the most likely changes from his comments will be things like set pieces. Maybe the tentactle he said were missing are something that will give the impression of Ursula being much bigger (then again maybe not, that's just my speculation and I don't want to put words in his mouth). Little Merboy in December will be able to say just what's changed and how much better it is!
OOOHHH HUGE QUESTION!: Has Ursula made deals with any other merpeople? Has she turned anyone into polyps in her garden of poor unfortunate souls?
It's implied she's made deals with other merpeople (after all her dialogue and song lyrics are near identical to the film) but we never see anything like the garden. Maybe they will add in some set to show it by the time the show reaches Broadway, but it works just as well without and Ariel and Triton are never turned into ahything like that at the end. I think in the stage version the poor souls don't change but just belong body and soul to Ursula and are her prisoners somewhere deep in her lair.
I can only hope that it will come to the UK sometime. Do you think it will be a relly, really long time before it does? hmmmm .. ..
Well Beauty and the Beast opened on Broadway in 1994 and in London in 1997 and Lion King opened 1997 on Broadway and 1999 in London. Based on that my guess would be a 2009 opening in London. Of course that would depend on whether or not they bring Tarzan to the UK but from what I've read it seems Germany and Asia are next for that so we'll probably get TLM first.

I'm torned as I've seen and loved TLM and desperatly want it in the UK so I can see it again without it costing a fortune. But I really want to see Tarzan. I think TLM is the better show from what I've heard so that's probably the best bet as it makes most business sense. I really hope we get at least 1 by 2009 and my guess would be Mermaid.
Just one question though; what are the costumes like? Or what did you think of them? As the reviewer on the Little Mermiad Broadway page didnt like them, as they wernt magnifcant enough. But that was the charm of them I thought, in the movie, simplicity. Do the costumes refelct the moive? Or are they dull, like the reviewer says?
I personally loved the costumes. They looked (as much as possible) just like the films. They are simple and very effective, especially the mermaids. They've not really upgraded the costumes as they did for Beauty and the Beast (just compare Belle's dresses in the show to what she wears in the film) but then as much as I love B+B I would love it just as much if the costumes were as simple as they were in the film.
And that it really feels if Ariel is alive on stage; thats the best part!
It really does, I just can't say enough how fantastic Sierra was as Ariel (as all the cast were in their roles). If there was one reason to save up and see this show on Broadway then I'd say that's it; seeing the original cast. As good as the UK touring B+B is, and as fantastic as the final Broadway cast was I still have that feeling when I listen to the CD that I wish I could have seen the original cast (ok I was like 10 at the time and didn't even know they'd done it for stage so it could never have happened but I'm sure you know what I mean). With TLM I was able to do that and it was well worth the cost.
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Do you think we can see somethin' about the show (as a special feature) in the upcoming Little Mermaid III dvd? It would be great to learn 'bout the realization of the musical, like interviews and stuff like that, just like they did with the Lion King special edition. Since I'm not American, or English (uk), and not able to see it 'til 2009, I guess, or maybe later....
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It sounds amazing.

I'll be in New York City next march and I really hope TLM is there. I'm already sad enough that I never got around to seeing B&TB or Tarzan on Broadway, If I don't get to see TLM either I'll be pretty devestated. Of course I'll also revisit TLK and see MP for the first time too.
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Yeah, we need Ariel to come to London. We're losing Mary Poppins from the West End next year :cry: . But it's going on tour for a while :D .

I'd say that we won't get Tarzan at all. It didn't do well on Broadway and I can't imagine it as the type of show that would fit in the West End either - If Little Mermaid is successful, we should see it soon in the UK, maybe by 2010.

One thing I was wondering was how big the sets are. I mean the set designer is known for working on large scale projects, but are they huge? The thing is, the Lunt-Fontanne theatre in NY is big but not as big as other theatres. When BatB opened in 1994, it opened at the palace theatre. The palace is HUGE. The sets were enormous. When the show transferred to the Lunt-Fontanne in 1999, sufficient downsizing was needed for the show to fit into the theatre. They had to actually use the set pieces from the First National Tour of the show and get rid of the old ones. The sets look the same, they're just smaller versions.. I was just hoping that this show would have a larger theatre so they could really give it the grandeur it needs.

Oh, and Little Merboy, they're discussing your costume picture over at broadwayworld message boards :D
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i"m so wanna see it :D too bad i can't :(.
this is odd,Posidone is Ursula and Triton's dad!? Eric make a contest like Cinderella!? Ariel is only a HUMAN IN THE END WITH NO VOICE!? this is odd.
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Bewitched, I'm not sure about the special feature. Beauty and the Beast PE got a gallery but not much more, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. I think You Tube will (eventually) be a better bet as the TV promo will end up on there.

Widdi, it will be on Broadway in March. Even Tarzan lasted a over a year (two weeks more was all I needed!) and I'd expect TLM to match B+B in terms of the length of its run, possibley even exceed it. Might want to book it though as it's so new and good seats will probably sell out early.

Yeah the UK is losing out this year. Beauty and the Beast is only in a few places this tour (then it seems to be in Dublin for a few months!). I guess they're wrapping up the UK tour to make room for Mary Poppins. All we have now it TLK. Like I said, I'd guess at Mermaid for 2009.

I do hope we get Tarzan at some point (I really want to see it in English as I don't think I'd enjoy it anywhere near as much if I couldn't understand anything but the songs). Thinking about it more I think Mermaid would be first as Germany and Asia are getting Tarzan next year and they'll want to judge those before opening in more countries. Maybe 2010...

The set looked smaller than that of B+B but then it wasn't complete and I think the Ellie stage is bigger than the Lunt-Fontanne so they'll probably look bigger when it's on Broadway.

Just to clarify Ariel does get her voice back at the end!
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ChrisLyne wrote: Just to clarify Ariel does get her voice back at the end!
Yay!!!!!! :D.
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I GIVE YOU

BROADWAY'S ARIEL
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The Little Merboy wrote:I GIVE YOU

BROADWAY'S ARIEL
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OMG WOW WOAH that's cool.

Thank you so much! As you know, we've been waiting for this FOREVER. You're always on top of this. We are ever grateful.

I love her tail, her wig, her shells (that I can see). The whole look is great except perhaps the stuff hanging of her tail, I don't know how I feel about that extra finny decoration, but the way the tail can bend up behind her shows the costumer is a genius.

Question: Is this by any chance Ariel on one of those bong-looking things I heard of that are on either side of the stage (with the arms that go up and down)?
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I am so happy a picture finally has emerged!

No no, this is Ariel in her grotto. This is right after POYW, when Sebastian comes in.
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