Teaser trailer for Pixar's Wall•e

Disneyfreak1990 · Post by **Disneyfreak1990** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:30 pm

i'm one person who actually trusts them actually. but if they don't have concret prove then its about as true as walt being frozen to me.

Atlantica · Post by **Atlantica** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:32 am

I'm sorry, but in my opinion, that trailer was awful, and the movie looks awful as well. I'm really really dissapointed with Pixar at the moment. In no way do I want to see Ratatooie (sorry for bad spelling), and I really don't think I'll see this either. It looks just like Short Circuit!

With all the over promotion of Pixar at the moment, and the MGM studios becoming Pixar studios, I feel really deflated by it all. When will they get back to basics, and have the soul of their movies return? As shown in the Toy Stories, Monsters, Nemo, but sadly lacking in the Incredibles and Cars.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but it the way I feel about them at the moment.

MadonnasManOne · Post by **MadonnasManOne** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:54 am

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I'm sorry, but in my opinion, that trailer was awful, and the movie looks awful as well. I'm really really dissapointed with Pixar at the moment. In no way do I want to see Ratatooie (sorry for bad spelling), and I really don't think I'll see this either. It looks just like Short Circuit!

With all the over promotion of Pixar at the moment, and the MGM studios becoming Pixar studios, I feel really deflated by it all. When will they get back to basics, and have the soul of their movies return? As shown in the Toy Stories, Monsters, Nemo, but sadly lacking in the Incredibles and Cars.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but it the way I feel about them at the moment.

So, you are disappointed with Pixar, and want them to "get back to basics", but, you aren't going to see Ratatouille, which people who saw the sneak peek are calling one of Pixar's better films? Then, you have decided you aren't going to see WALL-E, based upon a few seconds of footage? That's very narrow minded. I mean, how is Pixar to "redeem" themselves, in your eyes, if you don't give them a chance?

Atlantica · Post by **Atlantica** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am

I've seen all the trailers, clips etc for Ratatouille, and I am just not warming to it. At all. I can't help it if I don't like it! I'm just expressing my opinion. I don't really like robot movies, thats all.

I just havnt liked their last couple of movie efforts, and I don't think I'm going to like Wall-e, as it's not my taste in movies. I like the warmth given from animal, human, and toy characters, and I don't think this has been displayed in Ratatouille.

In my cinema in the UK watching Pirates, when the trailer for Ratatouille came on, it got no audience responce at all, when most of the other trailers did.

MadonnasManOne · Post by **MadonnasManOne** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:33 am

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I've seen all the trailers, clips etc for Ratatouille, and I am just not warming to it. At all. I can't help it if I don't like it! I'm just expressing my opinion. I don't really like robot movies, thats all.

I just havnt liked their last couple of movie efforts, and I don't think I'm going to like Wall-e, as it's not my taste in movies. I like the warmth given from animal, human, and toy characters, and I don't think this has been displayed in Ratatouille.

In my cinema in the UK watching Pirates, when the trailer for Ratatouille came on, it got no audience responce at all, when most of the other trailers did.

Well, to each their own. I just don't think you should make a judgement without at least watching the film. I mean, trailers are not really a good way to judge an entire film.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:36 am

Ratatouille is being hailed as an instant classic.

And when was the last time Pixar had interesting trailers? I never warmed up to trailers of Monsters, Inc or particularly Finding Nemo (wich had an awful teaser). Yet those turned out to be pretty damn good. The only film I could agree with being below standard are Cars and A Bug's Life. And even those are better than some of the best animated films competing studios have produced.

And how anyone can say the Incredibles has no soul is absolutely beyond me. Did you see the movie?

I say let's judge Ratatouille and Wall-E after actually seeing them.

Disneyfreak1990 · Post by **Disneyfreak1990** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:54 am

what PatrickvD and MadonnasManOne say are true atlanticaunderthesea. some trailers look good but the movie is horrible while for others the trailer is the best thing since sliced bread yet the movie stinks worse than a skunk so you can't judge a film by the trailer just like you can't judge a book by its cover. and i think Incredibles had soul although that might be because i like superhero films.

Daisy Duck · Post by **Daisy Duck** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:50 am

I think it's really too soon to know that you won't like Wall-E, Atlanticunderthesea, when we've hardly seen anything of the film. You may be surprised by it. I'm not that into robot movies, either, but something about Wall-e definitely has me intrigued and I'm really looking forward to it. But I respect your opinion. If everyone liked the same things, the world would be a very boring place--and Disney World would be way over-crowded!

Disneyfreak1990 · Post by **Disneyfreak1990** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:26 am

that would be true unless they had about thirty parks in there somehow unless the Japenese design it since they can squeeze in stuff just about anywhere.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:19 pm

When will they get back to basics, and have the soul of their movies return? As shown in the Toy Stories, Monsters, Nemo, but sadly lacking in the Incredibles and Cars.

I don't quite understand what you mean by "soul," 'cause I personally found The Incredibles to be Pixar's best movie since Monsters Inc.

I agree that Ratatouille doesn't seem that interesting going by the advertising, but I felt the same for Treasure Planet (which, though it has some serious problems, was a pretty good movie at the state Disney was in). So, I'll probably get it on DVD later on.

As for WALL E, I really want to see this movie (moreso than I have a Pixar film in a long time). Even though the central character is a robot, from what I've heard of the film, that won't hold the movie back as far as emotion's concerned. And I wouldn't mind if the movie focused on human laziness and environmental destruction. Regardless of whether you believe in global warming, there's no denying the fact that people have negatively affected the earth. Excess is never good, whether it's with oil, trash, sewage, etc.

SpellWovenNight · Post by **SpellWovenNight** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:49 pm

Honestly as far as Disney films go, the ones that have been made with Pixar have been at the far bottom on my list of favorites, but they're still good movies (though I never have and never will like Finding Nemo). I mean I'm still looking forward to Ratatouille and I still laugh everytime I watch Cars or The Incredibles.

I also am not oh so fond of robot movies and was disappointed when I saw that Wall E was, in fact, a robot, but it the little guy looks cute (though with a robot voice the entire movie, I'm sure it will get on my nerves) and looks like it has potential. Honestly I'm waiting to learn more about the film, because I know very little about the storyline.

I'm not wanting to know too much about the story right now anyway there is still another whole year before it comes out and I hate it when they release too much too early. My dad has seen the commercials for so long and often that he actually thought he had seen the movie, which he hasn't. With that in mind I like the trailer, just giving you a heads up that another movie will be one its way.

I also completely agree with don't judge a movie by its trailer, a trailer is meant to get people hooked, curious, exited. Only a few seem to show the real potential of a film.

Disney-Fan · Post by **Disney-Fan** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:13 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:I don't quite understand what you mean by "soul," 'cause I personally found The Incredibles to be Pixar's best movie since Monsters Inc.

I was just about to say something similar. I found TI to be Pixar's best since Toy Story so I'm baffled by claims of it being souless. You want souless? See Chicken Little -- It's like one big promotion for the plushes that ly ahead.

Atlantica · Post by **Atlantica** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:32 pm

I'm sorry I seem to have offended so many people with my opinion on these movies. It was just my opinion, nothing special.

I can't really explain the 'soul' thing, as it is hard to explain; its just something I feel.

Again, sorry for the upset.

Disneyfreak1990 · Post by **Disneyfreak1990** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:54 pm

that's okay Atlanticaunderthesea. it's your opinion and we shouldn't have gotten on you like that.
and to those wondering about the soul thing here it is: if you feel like they are real then they have soul but if you don't feel like they would never be real even if you saw them on the street then it has no soul.

Fflewduur · Post by **Fflewduur** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:27 pm

I think A Bug's Life is the weakest of the Pixar films...

But since 1995, the year Toy Story came out, I think Pixar's output easily stands up to Walt Disney Pictures' animated features over the same period.

lighthousemike · Post by **lighthousemike** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:01 pm

If this was already posted sorry i don't see it.
Just found this on the Apple trailers page

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/walle/hd/

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:55 am

Disney-Fan wrote:Disney has done the exact same thing 15 years ago. It worked then, no reason it shouldn't work now. The only reason some board members here seem to be so angry is because this time around it's Pixar affording the luxury of bragging.

I hate all bragging, that crap at the start of the Enchanted trailer is just as bad. But up until now Disney and Pixar have managed to stay away from plastering their past films all over posters and trailers and only Dreamworks have been too obnoxious with the narcissism. I can stomach the odd "last we brought you Beauty and the Beast" and "From the makers of Toy Story", but this just goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY past that. It's just beyond arrogant. I mean hospitals in southern California must have been full of marketting and publicity people with sprained tongues and backs from licking their own ***holes.

It's the same as plastering the names of actors all over an animated film. Dreamworks again are usually to blame. Their trailers usually spend more time telling us about which no-talents have provided a voice for their film rather than how little effort went into the story.

If a studio needs to resort to "Ooh look who's in this" or "Ooh remember what we did last year?" It just screams of neediness and a complete lack of confidence in their product. If something is good, crowds will come.

PatrickvD wrote:well forgive me, but unlike Dreamworks, Pixar has a spotless legacy they can be proud of. And is well worth mentioning.

Precisely! And it's because of that spotless track record that I'm disgusted that a Pixar film of all things has been marketted with the schmaltzy added on crap. Pixar doesn't even need to pull this crap!

Disney-Fan · Post by **Disney-Fan** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:21 am

ichabod wrote:I mean hospitals in southern California must have been full of marketting and publicity people with sprained tongues and backs from licking their own ***holes.

While I respectfully disagree that line cracked me up for some reason...

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:48 am

I just have to add my two cents into this conversation.

There is no way Monster's Inc is better than the Incredibles or Cars. Heck, the Incredibles is the best Pixar film. How is Pixar loosing it's touch. And the reason most people disliked Cars is because they don't understand the concept of racing.

MadonnasManOne · Post by **MadonnasManOne** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:52 am

ichabod wrote: If a studio needs to resort to "Ooh look who's in this" or "Ooh remember what we did last year?" It just screams of neediness and a complete lack of confidence in their product. If something is good, crowds will come.

I am so tired of hearing people whine and complain, and downright put Pixar, or any company for that matter, down because they promote a film by recalling their previous efforts. It's a marketing technique, which is not new, and has NOTHING to do with the quality of the film being promoted. It's not used because the company has a complete lack of confidence in their product. It's called recognition. It's called psychology. It's meant to remind people that the company making this film have made other films that you have probably enjoyed. It's important for visibility. If you already have a "built in" audience that you can promote to, then that gives you even more visibility for your film. It raises awareness, and it is effective. You really should study marketing. That way, you'll have an informed opinion, rather than an ignorant one, simply believing that this indicates a lack of confidence.

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