Official 'Enchanted' Discussion Thread + Trailer !

[Atlantica]

Yes, it is. But you can hardly tell. It's crystal clear.

But it's better than nothing

[Ariel'sprince]

Good observations, atlanticaunderthesea! The "princess and a wife" thing does make it sound like those things are so important. Maybe being a princess is an okay ambition, but if being married is that big a goal to someone, that might not be good. Because it's not always so easy to find someone who will love you like they should and actually be good for you, and you should not depend on the love of one person to make you happy.

Still, I may have been a little harsh in my theory that Disney is pushing women to find men. If that's true, it's also true that men are pushed to find women. Ariel risks her freedom and makes a deal with a witch to be with a man (Eric), but Prince Phillip risks his life and fights a dragon to be with a woman (Aurora). It's just that all the princess stories are romance-driven. Is the reason "boy films" aren't full of romance because little boys think romance (like kissing) is icky? And if so, is it because society thinks so, or do boys really hate romance without interference from the movies and shows they watch, the games they play, or the other men/boys they see?

In The Lion King, Simba's story is about finding his place, and regaining his title, while falling in love with Nala is a small thing. But in The Little Mermaid, even though Ariel wants to be part of a different world is a huge part of the story, falling in love with Eric is just as big a part.

I never thought of it, but there's romance in many more Disney films, not just the princess ones. The difference is the princess ones are almost all about that, but the other "boy" ones give the romance a small part.

Disney Duster,just becouse Cinderella is a princess and a wife that dosn't mean that she has to be stargiht,she can be a lesbian wife but that dosn't matter.
Disney explain that love is what impertant and love to a guy or a girl,it dosn't matter,Disney just don't show lesbain or homo couples so the perents won't be angry.
take Flower from Bambi:he's gay but Disney the perents willl be angry so they officialy that he's gay.

sorry,worth fast,i mean that flower is gay but Disney know that the perents will be angry so they change it.

[Ariel'sprince]

change it.

i meant show it.

[Billy Moon]

change it.

i meant show it.

You know that you can edit your posts, don't you?

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

[Ariel'sprince]

i meant show it.

You know that you can edit your posts, don't you?

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

really? .
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.

[Jules]

OK, I got an email from KRS FIlm Distributors Malta:

Sur Carter,

Il-film ENCHANTED mistenni li joħroġ għall-wiri fl-Ingilterra u f'Malta f'Diċembru 2007.

Dejjem tiegħek,

Charles Pace
Direttur
KRS FILM DISTRIBUTORS LIMITED

It's in Maltese, so I guess I must translate:

Mister Carter,

The film ENCHANTED is expected to release in December 2007 in the UK and Malta.

Yours,

Charles Pace
Director
KRS FILM DISTRIBUTORS LIMITED

This is good.

[Dottie]

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

really? .
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.[/quote][/quote]

[Dottie]

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

really? .
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.[/quote][/quote]

So, Flower is a boy. But he ends up with a girlfriend, girl-skunk, whatever, if I remember correctly, so where's the problem? I don't understand it either.

[Daisy Duck]

Flower was happy to be called Flower because flowers smell nice--and you know being a skunk, he probably didn't like having a reputation of being stinky. So I never saw it as an indication of being gay. And yes, he did end up with a female skunk.

[Disney-Fan]

and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.

So I'm curious. What DOES gay laughter sound like?

[Billy Moon]

I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.

[Dottie]

I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.

Me too.
But I'll have to admit that when I was a kid and watched Bambi for the first time I thought that Flower was a girl when we first get to see him emerging from this "sea" of flowers, but later it is very clear that he is a boy.
He is the cutest of the three, though!

Wow, we're getting really off-topic, but if we're lucky there will be some sweet little fawns, some hungry rabbits and gay skunks in Enchanted.

[Billy Moon]

Wow, we're getting really off-topic, but if we're lucky there will be some sweet little fawns, some hungry rabbits and gay skunks in Enchanted.

I'm sure there will.

[Poody]

Flower was so totally gay.... it was classic!

[Ariel'sprince]

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

really? .
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.

[/quote]

So, Flower is a boy. But he ends up with a girlfriend, girl-skunk, whatever, if I remember correctly, so where's the problem? I don't understand it either.[/quote]
no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her,and don't you remember what to owl said? he looked werid only on Flower when the talked about Love!.

[Ariel'sprince]

I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.

when I was a kid and watched Bambi for the first time I thought that Flower was a girl

see? i told you so! he's gay allright.

[Billy Moon]

no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her

And then had babies with her... remember? If someone is shy among the opposite sex, it hardly means they're gay.

[Ariel'sprince]

no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her

And then had babies with her... remember? If someone is shy among the opposite sex, it hardly means they're gay.

he had? then i forgot that (i didn't see that film a long time).
then he's not gay.

[Aladdin from Agrabah]

he had? then i forgot that (i didn't see that film a long time).
then he's not gay.

Or the creatures of the forest were not open-minded enough to accept him and he got married because he was afraid of the criticism.

[Atlantica]

We have had almost a whole page on the Enchanted thread dedicated to a Disney character being gay or not .. .. .. very strange and off topic!