271286 wrote:I think it's a seperate headband and earrings... I don't think the two parts are supposed to be connected, It probably just looks like that because of the glistening of the earrings...
Ok, I feel like Disney Duster now, being so meticulous (especially with Cinderella), but oh well.
If you look on the cover, the headband part actually goes behind her earings, and is also creased so it looks like they are attached. And, if they were earings, wouldn't they be on her earlobes, and not over her hair, or even below where her hair ends? I don't really picture Cindy as the "dangly earings" type, and I pretty much doubt that they had them when Cindy was made.
I decided to take Marce82's advice and check out the DVD galleries. Lo and behold, it solves the mystery of both Cindy's hair and her earring. Take a look at this pic of her Helene Stanley's hair:
Seem to me they intended for Cinderella to have a sort of layered updo, but considering that'd be too difficult to animate, they simplified it and just drew the outline of it.
Now take a look at these photos. While Helene isn't wearing Cindy's headband, take a look at what she IS wearing: large, pearl earrings.
Now I know the lack of headband might make some of you take these stills with a grain of salt, but it's enough to convince me of Marce and 271286's theory: the pearls are earrings that are detached from the headband and are only drawn together in the film for the sake of simplicity (and also because of how the animators positioned Cindy's ears; I believe they designed her ears closer to her face than is anatomically correct since it simply looks better that way).
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For starters, I;d like to say "HA, I WIN!"
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I would like to make a correction though. THe name of the woman in the pictures is HELENE Stanley, not Ilene. She was the live action model, Ilene Woods provided the voice.
And it is correct, the way disney characters are built, the ears are a lot closer to the face than in reality. Also, a lot was stylized either for simplicity or design.
Either way, Cinderella looks gorgeous at the ball. Earmuffs or not.
Marce82 wrote:I would like to make a correction though. THe name of the woman in the pictures is HELENE Stanley, not Ilene. She was the live action model, Ilene Woods provided the voice.
Yeah, I actually knew that. I was rushing in my post because we were house-cleaning before some guests arrived, and I was trying to get this post out before I was called out of my room again to help with something. Either way, it's fixed.
Hmmm...in some pictures, Helene also appears to have flowers or something in her hair. They could just be big pins to hold up her hair, but I own a reproduction of a book from the 50's with very different interpretations of the movie characters and settings (the mice make her a yellow dress instead of pink), but she had flowers in her hair for some illustrations, so I wonder if they considered that for the film and they put some in her hair to see what they looked like.
So, I guess the fairy godmother would have magically made pins to hold up her hair, but the animators aren't gonna draw the pins. Or the back detail of her hair. I didn't want to believe her hair was something like that. I'm in the middle, Disneykid, because in the transformation I know her hair comes together from the sides, it doesn't curl over from the back (I can't explain what I mean well), but I wonder if that picture is just for the part where Cinderella showers! Her hair was up, then, too, and it looks more like that style in the shower scene than the style at the ball.
Totally agree about the earrings, though. I'm a little sad they're not some unique headband-with-jewel combination. At least there's still the mystery of if it's a ribbon or if it's a headband of a harder material. The crease in it, and the fact that it is the same color as her dress (meaning it's probably the same material) indicates it's a ribbon, but the DVD gallery has one model sheet of her in the gown and it calls the thing a headband. It's the one where she's getting up to tell the Prince goodbye. It's possible headband and hair ribbon could mean the same thing to some people...
Disney Duster wrote:The crease in it, and the fact that it is the same color as her dress (meaning it's probably the same material) indicates it's a ribbon, but the DVD gallery has one model sheet of her in the gown and it calls the thing a headband.
Well, there are such things as cloth headbands. They're really weird to put on, and I was never able to. I always stuck with the hard headbands when I was little lol. And, if it was made out of a harder material, that would be REALLY unconfortable if it was, indeed, attached to her earrings. And that crease still has me wondering. How could they be earrings if they are OVER her hair? And why would her headband go INTO her earrings???
Disney Duster, now you've got me thinking. You're right about the hair folding itself from the sides during the transformation, whereas the photo shows it being folded strictly in the back. Your theory about the shower scene makes perfect sense. The photo's even taken similarly to how we see her in the shower scene. The only thing that's going against it is the fact that that hairdo seems a little too intricate for Cindy to do herself while being off screen for, what, 20 seconds? I always figured she just tied a quick bun together, which is really what it looks like. I still hold your theory as a very good possibility, but for now, I'm going to say that that photo's supposed to be Cinderella's ball hairdo. Besides, it certainly looks more like the film's style than the cast member wigs (or should I see beach balls) at Disney theme parks.
As for the headpiece, I always considered it to be a hard headband, not a ribbon. I can't see how a ribbon can stay in place like that when it's abruptly stopping in front of her ears rather than being tied into or in the back of her hair. Now that we know the earrings are separate, that makes the ribbon theory even less likely. I say they're hard headbands whose ends stop around the sideburn portions of her face (in front of the ears). I won't disregard the ribbon theory, though, because like you said, it has creases in it and is the same color of the main portions of the ballgown. Plus, since we already know the animators cut corners to achieve a more streamlined look, it's possible the ribbon IS tied into her hair/back of her head, and it only looks like it's stopping where the earrings are.
