Lady and the Tramp's Villains

[Prudence]

in the Disney's Villains' Revenge they had it where Jiminy tore out the endings of a book and the villains changed the ending. for the Dumbo story they had it where The Ringmaster locked Mrs. Jumbo up and made it where Dumbo can't fly anymore and keep doing that clown act for the villains'. do you call that evil or not.
since i'm on this i'll tell the rest, for Alice In Wonderland the Queen of Hearts cut off Alice's head and you had to go through a maze to find her body and go through again to get her out or the QOH would kill her, in Peter Pan Hook made it where Peter is an old man so you have to duel Hook off the ship, and for Snow White the Queen turned the cottage into her new base and put the Dwarfes in the dungeon, made sure Snow ate the apple to die, and made it where the Prince can't find them so you have to make a potion to bring him there to wake Snow up. after you get all the endings fixed the villians' come out and you have to bounce the objects they throw back at them. for The Ringmaster he throws pie and you have to shoot them back at him, Hook sends cannonballs and you have to bounce them to skull rock, the QOH sends croquet balls and you have to hit them to her topiary, and The QQuenn sends either a spell or apples at you and you have to send them to the door. naturally they lose.

That gotta be the stupidiest game I've heard. especially for disney.

I didn't understand it from reading this at all. Too much lack of good...everything.

[Siren]

In my eyes, the rat is not really villainous; he was just acting on his natural animal impulses.

No, they villianized the rat. There was nothing natural about that rat. Rats don't seek out babies to hurt them. Any stories you heard, are old wives tales. Like cats stealing baby's breath. The only live food a rat will eat is a bug or a mouse. Rats will go into a house, certainly, but you'll only find them in places they can get shelter and food...the basement or the kitchen. Not a baby's room. A rat won't run up to a dog and pick a fight either. Rats are highly intelligent, they know what's safe and what's not. And a baby room is not a safe place for a rat to hide.

[Big Disney Fan]

in the Disney's Villains' Revenge they had it where Jiminy tore out the endings of a book and the villains changed the ending. for the Dumbo story they had it where The Ringmaster locked Mrs. Jumbo up and made it where Dumbo can't fly anymore and keep doing that clown act for the villains'. do you call that evil or not.
since i'm on this i'll tell the rest, for Alice In Wonderland the Queen of Hearts cut off Alice's head and you had to go through a maze to find her body and go through again to get her out or the QOH would kill her, in Peter Pan Hook made it where Peter is an old man so you have to duel Hook off the ship, and for Snow White the Queen turned the cottage into her new base and put the Dwarfes in the dungeon, made sure Snow ate the apple to die, and made it where the Prince can't find them so you have to make a potion to bring him there to wake Snow up. after you get all the endings fixed the villians' come out and you have to bounce the objects they throw back at them. for The Ringmaster he throws pie and you have to shoot them back at him, Hook sends cannonballs and you have to bounce them to skull rock, the QOH sends croquet balls and you have to hit them to her topiary, and The QQuenn sends either a spell or apples at you and you have to send them to the door. naturally they lose.

That gotta be the stupidiest game I've heard. especially for disney.

And to think I've tried unsuccessfully to get the game for my birthday or for Christmas.

[Prudence]

That gotta be the stupidiest game I've heard. especially for disney.

And to think I've tried unsuccessfully to get the game for my birthday or for Christmas.

Why would you want it?

[Disneyfreak1990]

Prudence it's a good game where you have to stop the villains' from permantly changing the ending from good to bad by going into the stories. you have to save the heroes to in order to change it back to normal. and at the end the villains' want revenge on the player so you have to defeat them by using the book as a shield to deflect the objects they throw(Pies, Croquet Balls, Cannonballs, Spells/Apples) back at them to defeat them in a humorus way, for the Queen she turns into the hag and looks in the mirror and it cracks, the Ringleader gets pied, The QOH's topiary gets it head off and she surrenders, Hook is caught by a cannonball and send flying into the horizen. when that's done the stories are now back to normal.

[Big Disney Fan]

Why would you want it?

Because it seemed like an interesting game, that's why. Although I personally would have replaced Dumbo as a represented movie with Pinocchio and replaced the ringmaster with Stromboli. Instead of pies, he could throw worn-out puppets.

[pap64]

I just realized something...

I think we may have watched the Cinderella level of the game. Tremaine gets the magic wand, reverses time and makes sure that the one that gets the happy ending is one of her daughters. The only thing is that instead of playing as Cindy, you watch her as she sneaks into the castle, tries to steal the wand, gets shipped overseas and escapes the pumpkin coach of doom!

[Disneyfreak1990]

i am so hoping for the sequel. and that was a good comparison Pap64. and for the using of Dumbo, i quess they wanted the friendliest stories of the movies which were Dumbo, Snow, PP, and Alice.

[Prudence]

I just realized something...

I think we may have watched the Cinderella level of the game. Tremaine gets the magic wand, reverses time and makes sure that the one that gets the happy ending is one of her daughters. The only thing is that instead of playing as Cindy, you watch her as she sneaks into the castle, tries to steal the wand, gets shipped overseas and escapes the pumpkin coach of doom!

Ahaha. I'd rather watch the Cinderella level than play the Crossover of Doom full version. x)

[Disneyfreak1990]

sure you would Prudence. Prudence would you like this game if it had Cindy in it?

[MagicMirror]

I don't consider the Ringmaster in Dumbo to be a villain. He seemed to treat the other elephants well, and only locked up Dumbo's mother because he thought she was mad; he didn't know that she was protecting Dumbo, and so wasn't consciously deciding to be cruel to Dumbo by depriving him of love, and he didn't know the other elephants had shunned Dumbo. At his worst, he was a pompous, rather dim-witted fellow, but for me he always provided some light relief to soften the blow of some of the more emotional moments in the film (such as when he falls into the water, and his belt snaps). I actually quite liked him.

But at one stage in the film's development he was to be more of a villain. One version of the story says that Dumbo 'is forced into the role of a clown by a heartless ringmaster who jeers at his inability to avoid tripping over his own ears.' The storyboards for this version of the story also depict him as a much sleazier character, less rotund, with a huge, potato-like nose. The 'payoff' (the equivalent of Lady Tremaine's gape at the end of 'Cinderella') was his rage and bewilderment in response to Dumbo's flying ruining his act, and he tries to splutter an announcement to the audience as they cheer Dumbo, rather than the circus, on. This is related in Robert D. Field's book, 'The Art of Walt Disney'. I'll scan images of the story sketches from the book if you want.

I think the film works better in its final forms, with no clear 'villains', but antagonists in the form of the gossipy elephants and the greedy clowns.

(Incidentally, if they ever do a Dumbo world in Kingdom Hearts, the clowns would make excellent (and perhaps creepy) heartless, as would the Pink Elephants on Parade.)

So, just as with the Ringmaster, I don't think Aunt Sarah was a villain, since she didn't have malicious intent. I think you could argue that Si and Am were villains, since they seemed to show pleasure at Lady's misfortune. But the Rat is definitely the main villain of the piece.