Asperger's Syndrome/ Autism Thread

[Mason_Ireton]

It'd be really interesting if a Disney character did have Autism or Asperger Syndrome, it would make us root for 'em even more so. Yet not be too sypethic on them.

[disneyboy20022]

Well I just thought I would share this... It's a Little Tidbit of what famous people I have heard show are have shown signs of having Asperger Syndrome..

Albert Einstein - Genius with a wild hair style - now dead

Bill Gates - Creator of Microsoft and The X-Box... He's Very Rich and Alive...

Howard Hughes - The guy who Leo Dicaprio plays as in "The Aviator" - now dead

Thomas Jefferson - once was President of USA long Time Ago - now dead

Mozart - Composer of Music ... No he is not alive he died a long time ago

Also as it says in the quote below Asperger Syndrome was discovered by a Swiss Scientist named Hans Aperger during WWII but wasn't recognized until around 1994.

I think it was 1995 when I was Diagnosed with my Autism... I always said I don't need a cure of a Asperger Syndrome because that is what makes me well.... me.... However a cure of my Crohn's Disease is a differ story

· Asperger Syndrome is a pervasive developmental disorder (PDD,) and is on the autism spectrum.

· The disorder is most prevalent in boys, though girls do have it as well.

· Asperger Syndrome doesn’t affect intelligence, language or cognitive skills. It does affect the way that the Asperger sufferer interacts socially.

· Though it was discovered by Hans Asperger, as Swiss scientist during WWII, it wasn’t recognized in North America until 1994.

· The three major areas of difficulty are: problems communicating, socializing and (sometimes) lack of imagination.

· Asperger children excel in academics, but have trouble on the playground and working in groups.

· They also have trouble with overwhelming emotions and need a quiet place to go when they are feeling overwhelmed.

· Those who suffer from Asperger syndrome dislike change intensely and it can turn their world into chaos. Something as simple as rearranging furniture can send them into a major meltdown.

· Asperger sufferers are very comfortable with repetitive routines, but can be taught to cope with change if they are forewarned.

· Asperger sufferers dislike surprises. They like to know what’s coming so they can be prepared.

· Children who have Asperger syndrome do not respond, nor do they understand, body language or facial expressions. Those skills have to be taught.

· Children with Asperger syndrome have trouble making friends and retaining friendships. They are labeled as odd and eccentric. They are often teased and become loners to avoid confrontations with their peers.

· Asperger sufferers take the spoken word literally and don’t understand metaphors or sarcasm unless taught.

· Asperger syndrome is a disorder that is largely misunderstood as bad or inappropriate behavior.

· Those who suffer from Asperger syndrome need instructions broken down into small increments. Instead of saying, “Set the table,” you will need to say, “Put the plates, knives, forks, spoons, glasses and cups on the table.” When we look at a tapestry, we see the entire thing. When they look at a tapestry, they see every thread.

· Those suffering from Asperger Syndrome are often obsessed with things. As children, these things will change. As adults, they usually stick to one obsession.

· Asperger children can be taught to integrate into society.

· It’s suspected that Thomas Jefferson, Mozart and Albert Einstein suffered from Asperger Syndrome. These people are geniuses.

by Mary M. Alward

[Escapay]

Howard Hughes - The guy who Leo Dicaprio plays as in "The Aviator" - now dead

And Terry O'Quinn had a go at it in The Rockteer.

Escapay

[Jules]

Well, as I have said on another thread, I have OCD and Aperger's Syndrome. I found out about it only a couple of years ago, and was stunned.

Oh well...

It seems a lot of people on UD have Asperger's.

[Prudence]

It'd be really interesting if a Disney character did have Autism or Asperger Syndrome, it would make us root for 'em even more so. Yet not be too sympathetic towards them.

Oh, quite a few are possible Aspergians. Every fictional character contains elements of real people. Here are a few Disney characters that might fit the bill:

- Snow White
- Ariel
- Belle
- Lilo
- Maurice (Belle's father)
- The Grand Duke
- Prudence
- Dr. Doppler

Hmm, I really need to find my old list. I know I had many more male characters listed. Side characters like Dr. Doppler tend to be the Aspergian (or among the Aspergians) in the stories. The four main heroines I listed are the exceptions, not the rule. I like them, though. Huzzah for odd main characters!

I always said I don't need a cure of a Asperger Syndrome because that is what makes me well.... me....

Oh, yes. Denying oneself will just make life harder and significantly more annoying in the long run. I know I mask neurotypical, but I know in my heart that I am a person on the autistic spectrum. In a way, I like that. I like myself. It's a pain that I can end up faking assurity and trying to prove my capabilities, but I wouldn't want to be someone I'm not.

· The disorder is most prevalent in boys, though girls do have it as well.

This is certainly true. Are there any girls on UD with AS, besides myself?

· Asperger Syndrome doesn’t affect intelligence, language or cognitive skills. It does affect the way that the Asperger sufferer interacts socially.

^ Sort of an oxymoronic thing to say. Impaired social skills means a greater chance of stuttering. Meh, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that. I don't find myself socially impaired, and I make a point to speak with articulation. (Hmm, that can be a turn off to some people. However, if you're the kind of person who yells, "THAT'S A BIG WORD! WHAT YOU GOTTA USE A BIG WORD FOR?" after every other sentence I say, I'm not going to be so eager to socialize with you. Who would be?!)

· Though it was discovered by Hans Asperger, as Swiss scientist during WWII, it wasn’t recognized in North America until 1994.

The year I was diagnosed. Twas four years of age.

· A major area of difficulty is ... (sometimes) lack of imagination.

Anne: "Do you mean to say that you never imagine things differently from how they are?"

Marilla: "Never." -insert pestering lecture here-

Anne: "Oh, Marilla! How much you miss!"

The above quotes were from Anne of Green Gables. Tis a good book, in a good series. Anyway, it's not so much that Aspergians lack imagination as it is that some tend to view the world very realistically. I said some view the world very realistically. Anne and Marilla could have both been on the spectrum, and Anne's imagination was more vivid to her and her friends than was anything else.

· Asperger children excel in academics, but have trouble on the playground and working in groups.

I didn't have a problem on the playground! I just told the younger girls what to do, and they listened! Ha ha, I'm kidding for the most part. In all seriousness, these sentences should come with "sometimes" attached. I truly didn't have problems working and playing with others, for the most part. Many Asperger children did not.

· They also have trouble with overwhelming emotions.

As do many neurotypicals.

· Those who suffer from Asperger's Syndrome dislike change intensely and it can turn their world into chaos.

Not all Aspergians do! I've been known to hate changes, but there are exceptions to every "fact" about this "disability."

· Asperger sufferers are very comfortable with repetitive routines, but can be taught to cope with change if they are forewarned.

"Taught," you say? I dislike the wording here. How about "if those causing the changes are not mean to them and if something pleasant results from the changes," instead? That -is- long. But "taught" is definitely the wrong word to use.

· Asperger sufferers dislike surprises. They like to know what’s coming so they can be prepared.

It depends on the surprise! No one likes bad surprises, and everyone likes pleasant ones! See above. This quote is simply ignorant and lacking obvious sense.

· Children who have Asperger's Syndrome do not respond, nor do they understand, body language or facial expressions. Those skills have to be taught.

NOT true. Simply not true. Some do, and some do not. Everyone with AS that I know can read all forms of body language. We are a very expressive bunch.

· Children with Asperger's Syndrome have trouble making friends and retaining friendships. They are labeled as odd and eccentric. They are often teased and become loners to avoid confrontations with their peers.

Not always. Not in my case. All are odd, but that does not necessarily prevent friendships. In the classic Belle or Lilo types of cases, it does.

· Asperger sufferers take the spoken word literally and don’t understand metaphors or sarcasm unless taught.

Again, a false misconception. Many of us were born with a remarkable sense of sarcasm! .:laughs:.

· Asperger syndrome is a disorder that is largely misunderstood as bad or inappropriate behavior.

Good gravy grief, congratulations on making it sound like ADHD. (It's nothing whatsoever like ADHD.) Every disorder is misinterpreted. .:rolls eyes:.

· Those who suffer from Asperger syndrome need instructions broken down into small increments. Instead of saying, “Set the table,” you will need to say, “Put the plates, knives, forks, spoons, glasses and cups on the table.” When we look at a tapestry, we see the entire thing. When they look at a tapestry, they see every thread.

Oh my word! NO! Aspergians are not moronic babies! If someone kept talking to me in complete detail like that, I would - let's just say I would have a strong dislike for the person. Besides, isn't seeing every thread better than seeing the general picture alone?

It seems a lot of people on UD have Asperger's.

It does, doesn't it? I knew some of the members here before joining. Said members have Asperger's. Interesting, isn't it?

[Mason_Ireton]

Disney: Wow, I'm gon'na have to watch some of those films again and look at 'em real close. I'm surpised by Snow White, Ariel, and Dr. Doppler

Some of the facts you explained kinda apply to me, (I.E Need directions broken down for me, loathe BIG changes) yet I learned to cope with them. Friend wise, there's a couple of times where I just feel like reaching out but I stay behind due to possible rejection.


I'm really surpised to see 60% of UD members confessing to Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. Folks, if you're nervous bout sharing your story, then you can explain alil bit bout yourselves. We could also give each other advices of coping/progressing Asperger's Syndrome/Autism.

[Prudence]

Ariel...I hesitated to put her on the list. Snow and Doppler are extremely different, but again, there are many many many different types of people that fit the bill. There are also many many many shades of red hair, capiche? Anyway, Ariel is the only one on my (longer than shown and soon to be retrieved) list that I was hesitant about. If she lived as a modern American girl, she would probably never be diagnosed...unless everyone around her was extremely annoyed with her obsessions!

[Escapay]

I'm really surpised to see 60% of UD members confessing to Asperger's Syndrome and Autism.

Wow...seven whole people is considerd 60% of UD! Wonder what that says about the other 4095 registered users...

Escapay

[Prudence]

I'm really surpised to see 60% of UD members confessing to Asperger's Syndrome and Autism.

Wow...seven whole people is considerd 60% of UD! Wonder what that says about the other 4095 registered users...

Escapay

Nine registered users that I know are on the spectrum, actually. Escapay, only certain people can tease Mason Ireton and - oh. This says you are among the privileged. Now I'm quite curious. Since you referred to "whole people," what is a half person? What is a quarter person? A tenth of a person?

M.I. -
Just having fun, of course.

[Mason_Ireton]

Nice theory, I probaly wouldn't be annoyed by Ariel's obession with Human stuff. True many different people fit the bill of Autism/Aspergers', wonder if Dopey or any of the 7 dwarfs would apply for Autism. Today I saw Annie presented as the high school's new musical...Annie has a photogentic form of Autism (Has a real strong memory of her parents, watch the film and you might catch on) it was interesting of how unknown Hollywood places disabilties as serious subjects and make 'em more gag like, sure there's Rainman, My Flesh And Blood (True Drama Documentary) and other films that use Asperger Sydrome as a touching subject but we're past to context on learning disorders.


Prue: It's alright, better than the insults I got from some students. Did you reiceve my "Rough Day" e-mail?

[Prudence]

That doesn't qualify Annie to be on the spectrum! There are neurotypicals who remember their youngest years in complete detail. Miss Hannigan was bipolar. So was Pepper, depending on the version.

-shot for off-topic-

I would hate it if children's movies and family movies actually labeled characters, though. There are enough labels in the world. I -do- like how different everyone is from each other.

[Mason_Ireton]

We had a semi Bipolar Sophmore play Ms. Hannigan and I don't know who Pepper was, she is one of the ophrans or street bums?

Sorry for the off topic *shees* just kidding darling.

It would be kinda difficult accepting a film that seriously stay trued to the facts on Autism/Aspergers.

[Prudence]

The woman who played Miss Hannigan in the production I was in was bipolar in actuality. Offstage, she was a great person. In fact, she's one of my role models. (The actress, not Miss Hannigan!) Pepper is mistaken for being the oldest orphan, but she's simply the tallest and the toughest. This was the role I played once upon a time. She's the girl who is annoyingly realistic and bosses the other orphans around.

ENOUGH OFF-TOPIC.

Edit: Here's something related to the thread's purpose! In some diagnostic tests, the PhD.'s take note on how many times you raise any of your fingers while making a point. Apparently, those who tend to do that have a greater chance of having Asperger's.

Odd.

[Mason_Ireton]

So what are your thoughts of people wanting to learn more bout their diagnoses abilities? I believe they have every right to understand/research the disabilty they have.

Sometimes I do use hand gestures alot when I'm explaining something, but I recall some years where I'd spin out of sheer nervenous which I still do but not that much cause it only happens if I had a big surgery or something big going on in town/school. Though I'll admit it's fun being the oddball once in a while.

[Prudence]

So what are your thoughts of people wanting to learn more bout their diagnoses abilities? I believe they have every right to understand/research the disabilty they have.

That goes without saying! It's more than obvious that I research. Heck, I research practically every disorder out there just because psychology interests me. (See my profile. Bleach.)

Sometimes I do use hand gestures alot when I'm explaining something, but I recall some years where I'd spin out of sheer nervenous which I still do but not that much cause it only happens if I had a big surgery or something big going on in town/school.

If people don't exaggerate their hand/arm gestures out of occasional nervousness, I kind of think they don't know what excitement feels like.

Though I'll admit it's fun being the oddball once in a while.

Mm-hmm.

[Escapay]

Wow...seven whole people is considerd 60% of UD! Wonder what that says about the other 4095 registered users...

Escapay

Nine registered users that I know are on the spectrum, actually.

I just counted whoever said they had Asperger's or Autism in this thread, which is how I came up with seven.

Mason
Prudence
disneyboy200022
PixarFan2006
Big Disney Fan
RyougaLolakie
Julian Carter

Escapay, only certain people can tease Mason Ireton and - oh. This says you are among the privileged.

Woohoo!

Now I'm quite curious. Since you referred to "whole people," what is a half person? What is a quarter person? A tenth of a person?

It all has to do with dividing a person's diastolic blood pressure by their BMI, then multiplying it by their mass according to the gravitational pull of Venus, then calculating its square root to the nearest ten-thousandth, followed by inserting it into the quadratic formula as "a", with "b" being Pi, and "c" being the number of DVDs in Escapay's collection (664 according to dvdaficionado). Finally, the number you get from that is compared it to a rubric of oddly-assembled numbers, and from there, we determine if someone's a whole person, a half person, a quarter, etc.

Escapay

[Mason_Ireton]

[quote="Prudence"

If people don't exaggerate their hand/arm gestures out of occasional nervousness, I kind of think they don't know what excitement feels like.

Though I'll admit it's fun being the oddball once in a while.

Mm-hmm.[/quote]

I sometimes get too excited to the point of feeling dizzy when I try to calm down, they had moi use some type of brush, thought it'd calm my nerves down which it did but then I'd be too busy going from 1 place to another.

We oddballs have all the fun even though it can be quite unpredictable.

[Prudence]

Nine registered users that I know are on the spectrum, actually.

I just counted whoever said they had Asperger's or Autism in this thread, which is how I came up with seven.

Mason
Prudence
disneyboy200022
PixarFan2006
Big Disney Fan
RyougaLolakie
Julian Carter

Yes, but there are two users I know of besides the above with Asperger's or Autism. They just haven't mentioned it on this thread.

[Mason_Ireton]

I'd wait to make a list of members who have Autism/Aspergers, we want people to feel appericated/inspired to share their stories. Sorry if it came out bluntly but I'm just voicing my opinon.

[Bebopgroove]

I think I have Asperger's.. in fact I'm almost convinced that I do. I'm seeing a counselor currently because my social life is getting to me, but I'm afraid she thinks I don't have it (she accused me of diagnosing myself.. which I wasn't), and if I do have it, I'm afraid I won't get proper treatment -_-