Cinderella III: A Twist in Time DVD Press Release/Discussion

[jeremy88]

Cheat on my diet? Neverrrr Im too well driven to do that lol...

I will watch Cinderella III again with a cup of celery sticks and a glass of decaffinated ice tea with no sweetener. Everyone else can enjoy all that amazing candy...and amazingly great tasting food....I hate diets...they need to jump off an a million floor building.

Anyways Congratulations SUPERTALIES

[Prudence]

Cheat on my diet? Neverrrr Im too well driven to do that lol...

I will watch Cinderella III again with a cup of celery sticks and a glass of decaffinated ice tea with no sweetener. Everyone else can enjoy all that amazing candy...and amazingly great tasting food....I hate diets...they need to jump off an a million floor building.

Anyways Congratulations SUPERTALIES

I drank prune juice once while watching Cinderella III with a group of girls. They saw what I was drinking and laughed.

[ichabod]

Well I've finally seen the movie, so I guess I'll toss in my 2 cents.

Story

Well A Twist in Time definitely gets the prize for the most creative story out of all the direct to video fare. Rather than rehashing the original story / reversing the original story, something creative was done and it definitely gets two thumbs up for that. Unfortunately I think it could have been handled slightly better in places and at some points it did seem rushed, like the wand being stolen so quickly into the film. The beginning of the movie probably was too rushed and the weaker portion of the film. The middle and last parts of the film were very strong though. There was perhaps a slight amount of "girly-kiddy-americany-sugary-giggle" dialogue, but not as much as I feared. Perhaps one criticism would be that they didn't give the magic more power and threat and it could have done with being slightly darker, but probably wasn't because of the target demographic.

Cinderella was shown to be a tough princess, but without ruining her original character. She was fiesty, but without her seeming like a different person altogether. Again like in Cinderella II: we see the Anastacia redeemed in character and I really thought that this worked well and wasn't schmaltzy in any way. Her redemption through self-sacrifice was an obvious yet satisfactory end to the film, and I guess lays the ground-work for her development in Cinderella II (I assume the events in A Twist in time occur before those in Cinderella II).

There are some questionable flaws in how a new reality has been created through these actions, if this is how the story occured it would alter the time line meaning that the events in the original Cinderella would never occur. But I suppose unlike the time travel events in Meet the Robinsons, the core audience of A Twist in time wouldn't even take that into consideration.

Animation

Well all in all I don't think it was on the same level as Bambi 2 in terms of animation, it wasn't as finished or detailed as the former. Naturally the design of the original was much simpler in terms of style than Bambi. Some shots were very well done and the actual animation is probably about the same level as The Little Mermaid. Where the animation falls down for me was with the coloring. The digital coloring is something that DTV sequels never get right for me and they always have a soft pastelly quality to them which never sits right with me. It was nowhere as evident here as in films such as Mulan 2, Brother Bear 2 etc, but the colors were too bright and overpoweing at some times and not as soft, blended and complimentary as they should have been.

[Atlantica]

The animation is as good as The Little Mermaid? You so did not just say that!

[kurtadisneyite]

Any feature has its strong and weak parts; the weak ones usually being the last parts of the film made (lack of money, time, and sheer exhaustion of the crew).

Meanwhile, anyone notice there are now __5__ pages of YOUTUBE clips related to C-III ?

[Disney Duster]

The animation is as good as The Little Mermaid? You so did not just say that!

I must say, the animation is The Little Mermaid is so particularly good, always flowing smoothly and just some of the most beautiful animation in a Disney film. In terms of movement it's fantastic but sometimes I think Ariel can look off-model, mainly in the close-up shots of her face.

But there's no way any DTV, even one as beautiful as Cinderella III, could ever have animation as good as an animated feature's, especially The Little Mermaid's. The only possible exceptions are Lilo and Stitch 2, Brother Bear 2, or Bambi II, but I haven't seen those so I can't decide.

Speaking of, I was a little dissapointed and even surprised that after the great work done on Bambi II, Cinderella III didn't look quite as good. I know I didn't see Bambi II but can still tell.

Kurtadisneyite, so glad to see you around! Can you shed light on why Cinderella III's animation wasn't quite as good as Bambi II's, or do you think it actually was as good, or better? Was it because the original Bambi's animation is considered more detailed and better than the original Cinderella's animation? Because I wouldn't agree, Bambi's deer don't always look that great...or the other animals.

And yea, I wish Disney would remove all those huge clips from the film, people won't buy the movie if they just watch it on Youtube! I don't mind the music videos or the songs being on Youtube but whole portions of the movie are on there!

Oh, and kurtadisneyite, I totally noticed that in The Little Mermaid II, the animation got really bad in the final battle with Morgana. It really did get worse as it went along. But in Cinderella III, I thought things were much more even, and it ended beautifully actually! Cinderella looked stunning and everyone looked great. The only hint that they ran out of budget or steam in the end was the fact that the final battle with the stepmother was so rushed and so dissapointing. Do you know if they planned a different, more dramatic, or more complicated ending at all?

[kurtadisneyite]

Last I heard the woman Lead Animator for Lady Tremaine is now working on storyboards for an Anime production. The Australian crew did their best on C-III but after all its budget was only $6 mil or so, low by feature standards. Also, a steady stream of layoffs occurred during C-III's production, which in most cases would wreck morale. Yet the remainders including that woman animator, kept at it and did their best. Real troopers and Kudos to 'em - Frank Nissen was very proud of that crew!

I suspect production time and budget for Bambi II was much better. Australians did Bambi II, Return to Neverland, Lion King Sequels, Scamp sequels, and first half of first Aladdin Sequel as well as C-III. I believe Mermaid II and Cinderella II were Disney Japan - those studios closed some time ago. Tinkerbell Feature will be from India via Prana studios following pre-production in Burbank. I've no idea who is doing Mermaid III.

the web site intercot.com (sorry, this site policy doesn't allow full links) has more on the sequel story, written by Joe Strike for Animation World Magazine March 28, 2007. The first two postings on that topic are particularly respectful of C-III, especially the handling of Lady Tremaine.

[Prudence]

Whatever happened to the screenshots of Prudence on this thread? They seem to be gone, and I need them for avatar-creating purposes.

[Aladdin from Agrabah]

I think every single hero in Cinderella III was perfectly animated. Lady Tremaine and Prince Charming look off-model sometimes but still it's not disturbing. I agree that the beginning was rushed, I didn't enjoy it, we had seen almost everything from it in the 8-minute videos that the official site provided. But Cinderella herself was a delight almost everywhere in the movie. Really well- done. With such an animation for a DTV I would like to see a sequel for SnowWhite- I'm a sequel-lover shoot me!

[Prudence]

Whatever happened to the screenshots of Prudence on this thread? They seem to be gone, and I need them for avatar-creating purposes.

Bumping up.

[Atlantica]

Whatever happened to the screenshots of Prudence on this thread? They seem to be gone, and I need them for avatar-creating purposes.

Bumping up.

What pictures? The ones I posted?

[Prudence]

Bumping up.

What pictures? The ones I posted?

Perhaps. I don't remember, but they were the only ones of her and the reason I joined the forum (to ask my first question).

[Mason_Ireton]

I actualy planned on skiping 2, after 1 preivew of it I was like...Tv Show coming thru which didn't pan out the way Disney thought it would. Twist In Time was quite enriching with the plot and the tones of the characters' personality matured very well but kinda lost some magic from the orignal. Too bad Bruno or the horse didn't show up, would've been more exciting if the time travel sequence started when Cinderella found the 2nd slipper after the ball.

[Atlantica]

What pictures? The ones I posted?

Perhaps. I don't remember, but they were the only ones of her and the reason I joined the forum (to ask my first question).

How does anyone know who posted the pictures then if you are unsure yourself? Any idea what page they were on, etc? Otherwise, how are we gonna know where the pictures are, and why they are not there any more?

[supertalies]

Would've been more exciting if the time travel sequence started when Cinderella found the 2nd slipper after the ball.

Doesn't the Twice Charmed musical goes that way? After Cindy found the second slipper ,I mean.

[Prudence]

Perhaps. I don't remember, but they were the only ones of her and the reason I joined the forum (to ask my first question).

How does anyone know who posted the pictures then if you are unsure yourself? Any idea what page they were on, etc? Otherwise, how are we gonna know where the pictures are, and why they are not there any more?

They were before my first post. I looked over all the pages. >.< But anyway, they were a page or two before my first post. If I remember correctly, they were posted a few days before the 10-minute Disney Channel preview.

[Atlantica]

Werre these the pictures?

[Prudence]

Of course not! They were pictures of Prudence during the "Royal Mouse Catcher" scene! You might not have posted them.

[Atlantica]

Oops, sorry!

[Atlantica]

Disney Duster, I don't want to rush art, but is your critical assesment of Cindy III ready yet? Or are you still working on it? I'm still desperate to hear your views, as you havent really given the movie a proper critique yet.