It really bugs me when people vote for something simply because "if so and so wasn't made, so and so wouldn't have existed." By that reasoning, everyone, then, is required to say that Thomas Edison's Alice in Wonderland movie made over a century ago is their favorite movie because without it, there wouldn't have been other films.
First five Disney animated movies, which is your fav?
If, TLK is implying what I think he's implying..shame on you!
It really bugs me when people vote for something simply because "if so and so wasn't made, so and so wouldn't have existed." By that reasoning, everyone, then, is required to say that Thomas Edison's Alice in Wonderland movie made over a century ago is their favorite movie because without it, there wouldn't have been other films.
Just judge the films as films, not by their historical date. 
It really bugs me when people vote for something simply because "if so and so wasn't made, so and so wouldn't have existed." By that reasoning, everyone, then, is required to say that Thomas Edison's Alice in Wonderland movie made over a century ago is their favorite movie because without it, there wouldn't have been other films.
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Favorite film
Well, my favorite is "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". Ya know, it's the one that started it all, and I think it has all the ingredients for a great movie: great characters, an even greater villain, catchy songs, wonderful animation... oh, and love the watercolors backgrounds!
Second, comes Fantasia. Daring film, incredible sequences, and a great way to present classical music to a wider audience.
Pinocchio grabs the third spot. Perfect movie, perfect animation. Great action sequences... hmm, and it has the lovely Blue Fairy!
And then, we have Dumbo and Bambi, both great movies with a lot of heart. Maybe there's a tie here!
Joe!
Second, comes Fantasia. Daring film, incredible sequences, and a great way to present classical music to a wider audience.
Pinocchio grabs the third spot. Perfect movie, perfect animation. Great action sequences... hmm, and it has the lovely Blue Fairy!
And then, we have Dumbo and Bambi, both great movies with a lot of heart. Maybe there's a tie here!
Joe!
Hey there, keep your shirt on. I think the other ones are fantastic too, but whenever I watch Pinocchio, I just get these really strong shivers up my spine, like its absolutely pure magic. The other films (while awesome) don't effect me nearly as much as Pinocchio. Just my opinion.Jake Lipson wrote:So are the others. What are you implying here? Are you saying that Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Fantasia, and Bambi are not pure magic? News flash: They are. At this time period, Disney was five-for-five in quality films just like Pixar stands now (though Snow White was the only one to enjoy a really, really big boom at the box office.) All five films were truly revolutionary and, beyond their technical merits at the time, they sustained the qualities that truly make them classics today, which are really too many for me to mention here or I'd be going on and on until I fall asleep on the keyboard.Jack wrote:Pinocchio all the way. REASON: It's pure magic.
Have you failed to see these qualities in any one of these films except Pinocchio, or have you just declined to mention it?? I really hope it's just the latter.
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I chose Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, because while none of these movies would make my favorites list, Snow White is the more enjoyable for me. These are all classics and can be apreciated as such but hear is why I would not chose the remaining 4.
Pinocchio- Definately NOT. I appreciate that this is a classic and a masterpiece, and I will own the Platinum Edition, when it comes out, but this movie is, in my opinion, Dark and Disturbing. I saw this a couple years ago and it did not sit well with me.
Bambi- I saw this at the same time that I saw Pinocchio, and frankly, it bored me. Again I appreciate this for the masterpiece that it truely is, but I just foung it boring.
Dumbo- This is a movie I have never actually seen, but would really like to.
Fantasia- Saw this a couple weeks ago for the first time and was dissapointed with it for the most part although I did like the segment from Ancient Greece and found the ballet one enjoyable as well. The Changing world and Churnabog ones were interesting, but the movie as a whole was kind of boring.
I chose Snow White, because, in addition to being the one that started it all and the fairest, it is the one with the happiest mood.
Pinocchio- Definately NOT. I appreciate that this is a classic and a masterpiece, and I will own the Platinum Edition, when it comes out, but this movie is, in my opinion, Dark and Disturbing. I saw this a couple years ago and it did not sit well with me.
Bambi- I saw this at the same time that I saw Pinocchio, and frankly, it bored me. Again I appreciate this for the masterpiece that it truely is, but I just foung it boring.
Dumbo- This is a movie I have never actually seen, but would really like to.
Fantasia- Saw this a couple weeks ago for the first time and was dissapointed with it for the most part although I did like the segment from Ancient Greece and found the ballet one enjoyable as well. The Changing world and Churnabog ones were interesting, but the movie as a whole was kind of boring.
I chose Snow White, because, in addition to being the one that started it all and the fairest, it is the one with the happiest mood.
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You can laugh all you want, and I'm sorry, but yes the idea of a little boy, real or not, first being locked in a cage and told he can never go home, that he must work, and that the second he can no longer work or people are tired of him, that he'll be turned into fire wood, does disturb me. Then he goes to an island and witnesses all these kittle boys being turned into donkeys, stuffed in crates/cages, whipped, and sent off to slave in the salt mines, while starting to turn into one himself. OHHHHH yeah at the end he's turned into a real boy, but what about all the other boys. While this might not seem like much to anyone else I do find it dark and disturbing. I can't really think of anything else now, but I think the things already mentioned are disturbing enough.
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It's been said by many people that the scene where Lampkin is turned into a donkey is the most disturbing scene in a children's film... ever!
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Prince Philip you say that none of those five films would be on your favourites list and thats fine by me its your opinion.
What I'd like is what are your favourite disney movies, are you more of a fan of the 90's movies or the 50's/60's (Don't say Sleeping Beauty I know you like that one)?
What I'd like is what are your favourite disney movies, are you more of a fan of the 90's movies or the 50's/60's (Don't say Sleeping Beauty I know you like that one)?
Dust? Anyone? No?
Dust? Anyone? No?
Dust? Anyone? No?
Well thats actually low in fat so you can eat as much of that as you like.
Dust? Anyone? No?
Dust? Anyone? No?
Well thats actually low in fat so you can eat as much of that as you like.
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My favorite... era?
I think the 50's produced alot of good ones, with the exception of Peter Pan. Here's how I would rank the 50's movies from most favorite to least:
#1 DUHH! that's the one I'm not suppose to say
2. Lady and the Tramp (Great movie)
3. Alice in Wonderland (a fun movie)
4. Cinderella (A classic movie)
5. Peter Pan (Love the story, but not disney's version
, Love Hook though with Robin Williams, Maggi Smith, and Dustin Houffman)
My favorite era would be the ninties with the inclusion of 89 (the Little Mermaid). How Mnay great movies came from there!?! My other favorite movie ALADDIN was fromt he 90's. Here is how I will rank those movies.
#1 Aladdin (I really want to like tie several movies for this place, but since Aladdin is my personal favorite it will get this place.
2. Beauty and the Beast (A worthy runner up for best)
3. The Little Mermaid (My most watched DVD. How that happened
, also great music, great villian)
4. Tarzan (Great animation, Story, Soundtrack, Opening and Ending)
5. The Lion King (Good movie, not sure if this should come after Mulan, but I think a lot of people would be mad if it weren't atleast in the top 5.)
I know how could anyone not think this was #1
6. Hunchback
7. Mulan
8. Hercules
9. Pocahontas (Love the Song!!!)
10. Rescuers Down Under
MAN!!! That was hard, they are all so good, I better not look this over or I will start changing and reordering, and I would never finish.
Although, I do think my last 3 do deserve their spot because, while Hercules was enjoyable, it did slatter the mythology, and tried to hard to appeal to the African American Demographic
Pocahontas had the great song and a nice love story, but it just wasn't up to par with the rest of the movies in that era (sorry matty mouse, but one of the things that make Aladdin, TLM, TLK, or BATB so great is that all of the songs are enjoyable, this is not so with Pocahontas, IMO) And Rescuers Down Under is always overlooked when thinking of disney from the 90's. Not the sign of a great movie. Also Mulan should probably come before Hunchback, but I am kind of tired of Mulan, and Hunchback, is still kinda fresh for me.
#1 DUHH! that's the one I'm not suppose to say
2. Lady and the Tramp (Great movie)
3. Alice in Wonderland (a fun movie)
4. Cinderella (A classic movie)
5. Peter Pan (Love the story, but not disney's version
My favorite era would be the ninties with the inclusion of 89 (the Little Mermaid). How Mnay great movies came from there!?! My other favorite movie ALADDIN was fromt he 90's. Here is how I will rank those movies.
#1 Aladdin (I really want to like tie several movies for this place, but since Aladdin is my personal favorite it will get this place.
2. Beauty and the Beast (A worthy runner up for best)
3. The Little Mermaid (My most watched DVD. How that happened
4. Tarzan (Great animation, Story, Soundtrack, Opening and Ending)
5. The Lion King (Good movie, not sure if this should come after Mulan, but I think a lot of people would be mad if it weren't atleast in the top 5.)
6. Hunchback
7. Mulan
8. Hercules
9. Pocahontas (Love the Song!!!)
10. Rescuers Down Under
MAN!!! That was hard, they are all so good, I better not look this over or I will start changing and reordering, and I would never finish.
Although, I do think my last 3 do deserve their spot because, while Hercules was enjoyable, it did slatter the mythology, and tried to hard to appeal to the African American Demographic
Pocahontas had the great song and a nice love story, but it just wasn't up to par with the rest of the movies in that era (sorry matty mouse, but one of the things that make Aladdin, TLM, TLK, or BATB so great is that all of the songs are enjoyable, this is not so with Pocahontas, IMO) And Rescuers Down Under is always overlooked when thinking of disney from the 90's. Not the sign of a great movie. Also Mulan should probably come before Hunchback, but I am kind of tired of Mulan, and Hunchback, is still kinda fresh for me.
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Oh and just to clear things up if you were serious, I did grow up with the classic, I may not have seen them in theatres, I am nowhere near old enough for that (see disney story) but I did have videos as a kid, and I do appreciate the classics. My two favorite disney eras are the 90's and 50's . And NOOOOO I do not like disney sequels in the way you are implying (now this is where I think you're kidding) I just appreciated the Jungle Book 2 for, IMO, being a huge improvement over the sequels disney has been releasing, which I strongly DISLIKE! And yes I still stand by what I said about the original, which is in no way meant to be insulting to the original, which is one that I do like.
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i dont know where you see any improvement in jungle book 2? it looks like RTN and cinderella 2, cheap CGI, plotless, stupid, worthless songs, and big time character change.
cinderella 2= 21st century blonde bimbo
RTN=was pretty decent but what's up with the octopus what ever happened to the crocodile? would they care to explain?
junble book 2=is shanti retarded? she seems to have changed her ways a huge way any one say jungle fever?
cinderella 2= 21st century blonde bimbo
RTN=was pretty decent but what's up with the octopus what ever happened to the crocodile? would they care to explain?
junble book 2=is shanti retarded? she seems to have changed her ways a huge way any one say jungle fever?
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LOL, what you have to understand is that you are on a Disney movie message board filled with hardcore fans. When you come here and call the classics that started it all boring and are generally negative you are going to be opening yourself up to some criticism. Many of these films are held near and dear to the hearts of many people, to say these films are boring is going to anger them! 
So you don't like it when things are the same in the sequels, and you don't like it when things are different in the sequels?MickeyMouseboy wrote: RTN=was pretty decent but what's up with the octopus what ever happened to the crocodile? would they care to explain?
For the record I thought the octopus was a bad decision, as with having a dog called Nana II in RTN (I mean, please).
But you know what? The "classics" have had bad decisions too - it was a bad decision to make the living Gargoyles 'real' in Hunchback (in the book they only animate for a few paragraphs of prose and all is in Quasimodo's head). I also think it was a bad decision to have all the characters as animals in Robin Hood (epecially animals like Rhinos which never lived in Britain anyway). It was a bad idea for Atlantis to have most of it's monster encounters cut out (a budget consideration from WDFA) - the list goes on - just because something is animated by Feature Animation doesn't make their ideas any better than those of a sequel. And as Atlantis shows their most ambitious ideas can fall fowl of production costs - even when they have 5-7 times the budget of an average animated sequel.
So Prince Phillip prefers Jungle Book 2 to the orginal. Good for him. Other people may not agree. Heck, I don't agree. But at least is shows he can think for himself.
And one more thing - people like to use Walts "pigs" quote around here. Would any of them care to explain why the famous Walt Disney while reportedly being so anti-sequel REMADE a Mickey Mouse short "Orphans Benefit"?
Orphans Benefit 1934 and Orphans Benefit 1941
He also said he wouldn't produce anything for television, but he soon changed his mind for business reasons when he needed ABC's money to help finance Disneyland. And once he saw how profitable his TV shows could be he increased television production. The point is - nobody knows what Walt Disney would have done if he still survived today.
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