Next wave of Walt Disney Treasures? Update: Future In Doubt

Big Disney Fan · Post by **Big Disney Fan** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:12 pm

blackcauldron85 wrote:
Big Disney Fan wrote: Maybe they will be released in some fashion similar to what happened with Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox.
I don't see why Disney would release SOTS & SDTMH together. SDTMH isn't controversial...Is there even enough bonus material that exists/could be made to have the movie come out in a 2-disc set? I'd love to see both of those on DVD sometime, but I'm not sure if together would be the best way. Although, if they were sold together, I'd buy it and be happy.

I was talking about when controversy is no object. And let's consider who stars in both and that they both have animated scenes. And even SDTMH's Lavender Blue is a good song, too, a bit on a par with SOTS' Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:16 pm

TheGreatOz wrote:What would you say to Di$ney continuing the 2-DVD releases...without the tin box, without the 'limited edition,' without Maltin, and without the name "Treasures"?

Has this possibility been considered?

Sounds like the Legacy Collection!

I'm all for it if it means they'll re-release the first few waves for those of us who missed out the first time or don't want to pay $100 a pop for them.

Escapay

TheGreatOz · Post by **TheGreatOz** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:38 pm

Escapay wrote:
TheGreatOz wrote:What would you say to Di$ney continuing the 2-DVD releases...without the tin box, without the 'limited edition,' without Maltin, and without the name "Treasures"?

Has this possibility been considered?
Sounds like the Legacy Collection!

I'm all for it if it means they'll re-release the first few waves for those of us who missed out the first time or don't want to pay $100 a pop for them.

Escapay

According to my pal, that was the original idea...release everything at a sell-through price when the limited edition tin sets were gone.

It would certainly bring those eBay/Amazon sellers' prices down to reality!

darth_deetoo · Post by **darth_deetoo** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:00 am

But didn't they already put out a re-issue of the early Treasures sans tin?

I'm sure the first wave was available somewhere again in the last few years but without the tins. Don't remember whether they were individual releases or a box set - or whether they were a store exclusive or not.

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:02 am

darth - after Wave 2 the first seven were bundled in a box and sold at Costco.

TheGreatOz · Post by **TheGreatOz** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:48 am

Mr. Toad wrote:darth - after Wave 2 the first seven were bundled in a box and sold at Costco.

Thanks for updating me Darth & Mr Toad. This must have been a very short avail.

But I guess that's the case at Costco, BJs & Sam's Club. If you don't buy something when you see it at those places, it's gone when you get back.

You'd think Di$ney would make the Treasures DVDs available at a non-LE sell-through price when the tin versions are gone and all the Waves are done.

They don't get a dime from the Treasures scalped on eBay & Amazon.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:22 am

I think it was said that "Costco" had some 11000 (?) copies of that package - and it was rumoured that they were assembled from returned sets with damaged tins, but I don't know if that's true. Some say it is, others say it isn't...

ohmahaaha · Post by **ohmahaaha** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:51 pm

I'm so glad this thread is staying on topic; we're sure to get more Treasures this way.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:59 pm

ohmahaaha wrote:I'm so glad this thread is staying on topic; we're sure to get more Treasures this way.

And staying on topic will make us get more Treasures?

consultant · Post by **consultant** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:11 pm

This may be burried somewhere in this thread but did anyone have a theory on why Disney limited the production on the latest wave to around half previous waves? 65,000 is relatively low compared to most the other releases. I think Your Host Walt Disney will be a great collectors item (until they re-release it on Blu-Ray, who knows when.)

jlppr · Post by **jlppr** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:36 am

i'm hoping they at least finish the animated cartoons on the WDT's line

i want to finish my Donald Duck collections and i would like to see another Disney Rairities with the Casey cartoons and the Chip n Dale as well. well then again the chip n dale may be as bonus features in the Donal series seeing that they put the Figaro cartoons in together with the Pluto's

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:56 am

A lot of conflicting info - that seems to be the only "sure thing" right now.

Lars Vermundsberget · Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:14 pm

I don't think anyone's ruining the discussion - at least not simply by discussing SotS. To continue the discussion of future/no future of WDT at this point we need a new rumour, a new piece of info from someone who might know. Without it the discussion has run its course. Except one thing: Keep on writing polite letters to Disney and tell them what you think.

TheGreatOz · Post by **TheGreatOz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:07 pm

ramapith wrote:I imagine they are surely thrilled to see this thread degenerate into name-calling about an unrelated subject.

It's safe to say that no one at Disney, who has the final word on the Treasures, is reading this thread in order to decide about their future.

Safer still, no one at Disney is hoping to see us begin to attack each other...unless it's Customer Service fed up with our pleadings/questions.

If, on the other hand, what you say is true, a revival of Treasures is the least of our worries. The company will have gone to the Dark Side and all future DVDs will have subliminal messages on them designed to turn us into Stepford Collectors, who whistle "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" and snort Tink's pixiedust all day.

Bring Back The Treasures!

Post by **Luke** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:19 pm

Song of the South

Since the posts about this thread being off-topic seem to lately outnumber the posts about the future of the Treasures, I've split up this thread, so that the Song of the South-specific posts have been moved to their own thread and merged with the other recently-opened Song of the South thread. That can be viewed here:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=18598

That said, there is definitely room to talk about Song of the South in this thread, particularly when it has something to do with the future of the Treasures. Which, I would say, it definitely does, seeing how Disney has used the Treasures to release a film like Victory Through Air Power, which probably wouldn't fly on a release of its own.

Big Disney Fan · Post by **Big Disney Fan** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:31 pm

jlppr wrote:i'm hoping they at least finish the animated cartoons on the WDT's line

i want to finish my Donald Duck collections and i would like to see another Disney Rairities with the Casey cartoons and the Chip n Dale as well. well then again the chip n dale may be as bonus features in the Donal series seeing that they put the Figaro cartoons in together with the Pluto's

And maybe the two Humphrey shorts will be on Donald's sets, too.

ghost999 · Post by **ghost999** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:12 am

I called BVHV yesterday regarding the Silly Symphony glitch and I also asked about the fate of the Treasures line and expected to get the response that I've seen here that others received from the BVHV reps but I didn't.

The rep placed me on hold and came back telling me that the decision hasn't been made yet but to call back because they EXPECT to have the final answer within 2 weeks.

TheGreatOz · Post by **TheGreatOz** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:56 am

ghost999 wrote:I called BVHV yesterday regarding the Silly Symphony glitch and I also asked about the fate of the Treasures line and expected to get the response that I've seen here that others received from the BVHV reps but I didn't.

The rep placed me on hold and came back telling me that the decision hasn't been made yet but to call back because they EXPECT to have the final answer within 2 weeks.

Not trying to be a smart *ss, but I presume "the decision" refers to the Treasures, not the Silly Symphony glitches.

ghost999 · Post by **ghost999** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:14 am

Correct, the decision about the fate of the Treasures line itself.

ramapith · Post by **ramapith** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:54 pm

Now THAT sounds smart. Maybe the following is what really happened here:

1) January: Top management plans to cancel the Treasures— and since that same top management is the party informing Maltin and Bossert, they are told them as much. Lower management is NOT informed and presumes the series will continue for another year.

2) February: At Ultimatedisney, at Golden Age Cartoons, at Digital Bits, we fans hear Maltin's and Bossert's bad news and demand more Treasures. Disney PR reps ask their immediate supervisors—in LOWER management—for the scoop. Lower management sends out the message we've been hearing... that the series will continue. Of course, higher management hasn't talked to lower management about the intended cancellation, the end result being that we get a mixed message.

3) Today, all parties within Disney are aware of the mixed message and deciding what to do next. Everything is still up in the air and we still have a chance to make a difference.

I can't prove this is really what's happened, but it sure sounds like a realistic possibility.

I suggest we keep e-mailing Dick Cook. And e-mailing John Lasseter (easier said than done... I have no idea of his e-mail address). And we better not get sidetracked into Song of the South again, as interesting as it is to discuss.

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