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Re: Letter to Dick Cook

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Gregbert wrote:OK. I normally don't do this; post on forums or write into studios but I have been moved by this thread. Being a massive fan of the Walt Disney Treasures collection, I decided to do my part and write a real letter (on paper and with a stamp) to Dick Cook. Here is my (perhaps tad wordy) letter:

1/19/07


Dick Cook
Chairman, Walt Disney Studios
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500 S. Buena Vista St. Burbank, CA 91521-9722

Dear Mr. Cook,

I have been a fan and collector of the Walt Disney Treasures DVD collections for the last 6 years. I am deeply disappointed to hear that this line of product is possibly coming to an end. If so, then I want to thank you for a line of product that exemplifies exactly what I think a DVD collection should be: vintage work from a famous studio using the most advance technology to make it accessible to the consumer. This was available to us at a very reasonable price.
GREAT LETTER! :clap: Very effective!

You mentioned how appreciative we are of them providing a quality product at a reasonable price, etc and kindly asked if they might continue the series. AND SNAIL MAIL is going to be far more effective than flooding them with email.
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GREAT LETTER! Very effective!

You mentioned how appreciative we are of them providing a quality product at a reasonable price, etc and kindly asked if they might continue the series. AND SNAIL MAIL is going to be far more effective than flooding them with email.
Thanks Pluto Region 1 for the really nice feedback! I really love the Treasures DVDs and thought I would send something out in the hope that with other people doing it, we can make a difference! :)

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UncleEd wrote:Here's a thought. What if Roy Disney's recent divorce puts an end to his sponsored Legacy series?
If this occured, it would be the most ridiculous decision yet in the recent history of the Disney company. Whatever stigma "religion" may've once put on divorce is both outdated and irrelevant to modern society. Divorce isn't ideal, but considering the number of people who've actually been divorced, I don't think there are many in a position to criticize Roy Disney on his.
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You guys have totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying Disney would end the Legacy line because Roy got divorced. I’m saying what if Roy is too preoccupied with his divorce to spend time nurturing the Legacy line so it flounders and dies? Divorces can be very draining and if this turns out to be a messy one, and there’s a good chance it could be, it could be the death knell of Roy’s involvement at Disney. For all we know this is how some of the errors snuck by Roy’s attention on the True Life Adventures series.
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I finally completed "The Complete Pluto Vol. 1 & 2", but I don't need to get the other WDT series besides Pluto. I keep all the Pluto cartoons onto one collection.
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Just got back from Disneyland and I completed my collection there by buying Spin and Marty and the other live action one from Wave 5(Maybe I should reconsider the purchase if I cant even name it 48 hours after purchasing it).

They had a complete collection for sale Waves 3-6 there too. So if anybody is looking to start a collection this may be the place to start. And hey any excuse to go to Disneyland is a good excuse.
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Mr. Toad wrote:They had a complete collection for sale Waves 3-6 there too. So if anybody is looking to start a collection this may be the place to start. And hey any excuse to go to Disneyland is a good excuse.
Indeed. But most of the stuff I've gotten was of the cartoons and anthology episodes. That set is more or less complete. I usually manage to attain them before too long. Since they come out in December, I get them for Christmas. The Wave 3 set was a little trickier, since they didn't come out 'til May. I got those on my birthday, which came a few weeks after they debuted.
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I have a question regarding the More Silly Symphonies DVD. There´s an extra feature called "Animators at Play" .When I watched it it ended suddenly in what seemed like the middle of a sentence or so. The sentence that it ended in was something about them "having fun with their boss" (yes I know there is a similar sentence at the beginning of the short film) however as it ended so suddenly it sounded more like "...having fun with their bo..." . So my question is , is this the last sentence ? I want to know if I miss a lot because of the short film ending so suddenly or if this is the last sentence ? If that isn´t the last sentence then how does the short film end ? Or maybe it ends this sudden for everyone ?
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Post by Prince Phillip »

I think if they want to discontinue the line, they atleast owe it to the fans to release the final two Donald Duck sets, even if they are the final two sets of the series.
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UncleEd wrote:For all we know this is how some of the errors snuck by Roy’s attention on the True Life Adventures series.
What are the errors that snuck by Roy?
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mvealf wrote:What are the errors that snuck by Roy?
Volume 1 - The color on "Prowlers of the Everglades" is wrong. Red was switched with blue.

Volume 4 - The end of "Secrets of Life" should be shown in widescreen. It's not on many copies.
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Along these lines, I tend to agree with Netty that usually a company doesn't discontinue something unless it is a poor seller. (If you were satisfied with sales, why would you discontinue it?) Perhaps the WDTs were not meeting expectations and they felt a new launch with a fresh packaging angle was the way to revive the WDT series.
Disney merchandising is a little different than a lot of products. They have a huge catalog of media, that has had a very long lifetime, across many formats. Think of one short being presented, from theater ticket sales, to 16 mm home video projector, to tv shows (clips on mickey mouse club, WWOD, disney channel, etc. - multiple tv shows), to vhs tapes (often in multiple versions - clipped as sing along songs, or on different collections), to dvd to blue ray. And I'm probably not thinking of something there. It is also marketed primarily to families with children. Yes, there are "collectors" and people who really like this material, but the truth is the mass market is families with children. These families age. So there are "waves" offered periodically to new families with children. When I was a kid, this meant an older movie might be re-released at the theater. Or it would be shown on Saturday night's world of disney. Years later that same movie might be shown on disney channel to a new group of children! Or sold on vhs, etc. This is why the movies would "go back in to the vault." Take it off the market a few years and there will be a whole new crop of families with children to buy it.

I think this is why they got rid of vault disney on tv. In a world of tivo and dvd burners, there was more money in selling people dvds. These were the treasures. Maybe that line has run its course and they will reformat them and sell them again in a different way. That is the way the disney company works. If you think they have some sort of obligation to keep a set going, well, that really doesn't seem to mean much.

I'll give you an example. Back in the 1990s I would be the classic disney music cds. Before that series, there was a box set of three cds that had classic disney songs on it. I had some friends that had that set, but I never did. That was when cd players were pretty new. Then later they came out with the disney classic cds. I have two sets now actually, of volume 1-5. Here is basically what they look like:

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Basiccally, every few years one of these cds would come out with a lot of songs from the more recent movies (for example, the last one has nightmare before christmas and hunchback songs) along with a lot of classic songs. There are still PLENTY of classic songs that aren't on these five cds. Actually, some of the sing along songs vhs have songs not on these So a few years ago, there had been enough time since the last one and I was looking forward to a volume six with stuff like toy story and Tarzan, etc. But wait. Probably about five years ago one day I was in the disney store and was shocked to see a whole new cd like this:

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Well, sure enough, there was some tarzan songs. But they also started from scratch and double dipped from the songs that had been in those five cds from the series they had been releasing over the previous several years! Instead of making a volume six, they started a new series at volume one.

Well, I never bought a volume of that new set, because I was so burned feeling. But I'm sure a lot of people did. I'm sure that there were a lot of people who weren't buying cds when that first set was around who went in to the store and there was a set of classic disney songs.

Let's see. The Tarzan dvd followed by the Tarzan special edition a while later. I think we have four versions of mary poppins in our house between vhs and dvd. I actually took the first alice in wonderland dvd (that I had never opened) back to the disney store and traded it for the two disc one. There have been new dvd versions of robin hood, dumbo, fox and hound. Lots of double dipping. I recently pre-ordered another version of peter pan. The truth is, between dvd and vhs we completed a collection of the classic animation some time ago, so it is something of a surprise that I we are still buying dvds I guess. But there you have it.

I guess what I am saying is, it really seems to me like there should at least be completion of the donald duck treasures. Actually, those were the treasures I was most looking forward to, partly so that I could the last couple of humphrey bear shorts on dvd.

But the truth is, I have seen nothing from disney marketing in my life that gives me any reason to believe that they would ever "complete the set" if they decide to package the shorts in some other way. Actually, that would just seem par for the course.
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But Humphrey, none of that explains why they would discontinue the Treasures line, while at the same time - to the exact same month - release the similar Legacy line.

I just don't believe the whole "Crowded Marketplace" explantion I keep seeing - expecially when Disney gives the Treasures so little promotion.
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somebody in marketing decided that they were tired of rectangular metal boxes and would rather have round ones.
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humphreybear wrote:somebody in marketing decided that they were tired of rectangular metal boxes and would rather have round ones.
To backup 2099net's point, humphreybear, your points are somewhat valid, but the Treasures were only around for 5 years! That's not even half a generation! I just don't understand the mentality of their basing this decision on what THEY want to sell us ... how about what WE want to buy??
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I can almost understand them cancelling a line that has been around for a few years to create a new one - because a new line will always sell better... but they were so close to finishing the Teasures! Seriously had they just released Donald Duck Volumes 3 & 4 I think most people would have been okay with the decision. I guess we can take comfort in the fact we got a huge chunk of classic Disney in one collection and hopefully they managed to wrap up Donald's shorts elsewhere sometime soon!
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From the digital bits;
First things first today: I've got GREAT news for you Disney fans. I've just confirmed this morning with Buena Vista Home Entertainment that their much loved Walt Disney Treasures line of DVDs has NOT been cancelled. In fact, I'm told that at least a couple more waves of releases in the line are planned, with the next due in time for the holidays this year. We'll post additional details as they become available, but rest assured this news comes straight from the studio and it's the real deal. So there you go, folks!
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*refuses to leave the computer until more news is ready*
If that's true, it'd réally be great news!
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Post by Gregbert »

MY LETTER WORKED!! :lol: I am just kidding!

If this is true, I am estatic! Unbelievable!! I hope this is for real!

Take care,
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