Next wave of Walt Disney Treasures? Update: Future In Doubt

[ohmahaaha]

Or, maybe someone can persuade Iger to release it...

As for the Treasures line, I'll be very upset if they don't finish the Donald shorts. Even doing it on the Legacy series will be upsetting because they don't look the same and the collectibility isn't the same. I have every Treasures set and for them to not finish the Donald Duck series is flat-out wrong. Why can't we have both series? One endorsed and finished by Leonard Maltin and the second endorsed by Roy. This would be the best of both worlds and should be appealing to most everyone. Hopefully, they'll come to their senses and release the DD cartoons as Treasures.

My fear is that when they get around to releasing the Donalds in another format, who's to say that they will be "chronological" like the Treasures were? What if it's a completely different format?

This is really, really disappointing ...

[Isidro25]

No way...This can't be the end, can it? I guess it can. But then again, I still have faith. I can see Leonard asking Disney for the two latest DD volumes, and Disney giving green light to it, even if that's all.

BTW, if we get the latest DD volumes, I would love to see the Donald segments of "Saludos Amigos", "The Three Caballeros", "Donald in Mathmagic Land", the Donald segment from "Make Music Mine" or whatever it is called, and the Chip N Dale shorts as extras

[Mr. Toad]

As for the Treasures line, I'll be very upset if they don't finish the Donald shorts. Even doing it on the Legacy series will be upsetting because they don't look the same and the collectibility isn't the same. I have every Treasures set and for them to not finish the Donald Duck series is flat-out wrong. Why can't we have both series? One endorsed and finished by Leonard Maltin and the second endorsed by Roy. This would be the best of both worlds and should be appealing to most everyone. Hopefully, they'll come to their senses and release the DD cartoons as Treasures.

My fear is that when they get around to releasing the Donalds in another format, who's to say that they will be "chronological" like the Treasures were? What if it's a completely different format?


This is really, really disappointing ...

Wait a nimute. You told me not to jump to conclusions on another board.

[CJ]

Well, that is upsetting news. I had hoped that we would at least get the rest of the Donald shorts before the end of the Treasures line. I can't say that I'm too surprised ,though, given the small run numbers on the latest wave of Treasures.

[MK Sharp]

The end of the Treasures? Bum, knickers and spit!

But what really does annoy me about this is that I worked out the other night that I now have every Disney animated short from 1928 to 1960 in some form or another - bar two. Two! Two that I was rather banking on turning up in the final Donald Treasures.

And I'm sure that all of the 13 off-air VHS tapes I have of Disney cartoons will have at least one short I don't have on DVD, which is a shame because I was rather looking forward to pitching the whole lot sometime soon.

However, since every time I spend an age transferring stuff from VHS to DVDR, it unfailingly gets announced for official release two weeks later, I will get on with compiling all those Donalds onto disc, thus invoking sod's law and forcing Disney to announce their forthcoming release. This task I undertake for the general good of us all.

[rugbytiger]

Arrgh!! I'm bitterly disappointed about Disney's apparent lack of respect for it's most loyal customers here.

I can understand the live action titles being slower sellers, but surely a final 3-set animated wave would be profitable enough, particularly with two of them being Chronological Donald sets!

I've just written to BVHE through the webiste to request the final two Donald volumes, and an additional Rareties/Educational volume that should be able to catch all of the other shorts that Leonard left off the other volumes in good faith. I can't imagine how a wave that strong wouldn't find support, and surely it will be a way to make sure other volumes don't sit languishing on the shelves! If the collection draws to a close in a near enough proper manner, surely there will be a rush to pick up existing volumes one may have missed, and help clear Diz's remaining stock!

It's campaign time everyone - I urge you all to request something similar to BVHE- additional Swamp Foxes, Hardy Boys and Spin and Martys would be pushing it given their obviously lacklustre sales in comparason to the animated titles, but there MUST be a market for those last three animated sets, surely, and I think we should shout for just that.....

Is there a phone number, postal address someone could post in this thread for ease of rousing the troops? : )

[darth_deetoo]

Would be more than happy to add my voice to a campaign for the last two Donald sets at least. I want the whole line to continue! Would love more Disneyland on DVD.

Maybe an online petition is needed.

[zuzu]

I've just written to BVHE through the webiste to request the final two Donald volumes, and an additional Rareties/Educational volume that should be able to catch all of the other shorts that Leonard left off the other volumes in good faith. I can't imagine how a wave that strong wouldn't find support, and surely it will be a way to make sure other volumes don't sit languishing on the shelves! If the collection draws to a close in a near enough proper manner, surely there will be a rush to pick up existing volumes one may have missed, and help clear Diz's remaining stock!

I did the same thing and and I received this email from Disney :

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns about WALT DISNEY TREASURES. We value your interest in Walt Disney Home Entertainment Movies and we love to hear the opinions of our viewers. We will forward your comments to our Marketing Department for their review.

We must say how we are frustrated and upset . We can also sign a petition if we need to !

[slave2moonlight]

If a campaign is to be started up, I would suggest that we request a very specific 4-set final wave of Walt Disney Treasures. I don't think that would be excessive because 4 set waves were often what was released in the past. Of course, we need the two Donald tins remaining and would like a tin of "Educational Shorts and Other Rarities" too, but since we were given HALF of Swamp Fox and Baca, I don't think it would be excessive to request a 4th tin to complete the shows.

Please, anyone who writes letters or starts petitions, let it be a request for one final fan-appreciation wave of Walt Disney Treasures tins, to include the following four.

The Chronological Donald Volume Three
The Chronological Donald Duck Volume Four
Disney Educational Shorts and Other Rarities
Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox Volume Two

[darth_deetoo]

For those who have contacted them - can you supply the e-mail address for the rest of us to write?

[humphreybear]

I thought it was really weird that they didn't do donald duck volume three in this wave instead of pluto vol. 2. That would have put two animated titles in this wave, and leave donald duck vol. 3 and pluto vol. 2 for the next wave. I have a hard time thinking that donald duck volumes 3 and 4 would have been in the same wave. They might could get 59 shorts on 3 dvds, I guess, but it would be a pretty tight squeeze I'd think. About the same as Goofy I guess.

[rugbytiger]

If a campaign is to be started up, I would suggest that we request a very specific 4-set final wave of Walt Disney Treasures. I don't think that would be excessive because 4 set waves were often what was released in the past. Of course, we need the two Donald tins remaining and would like a tin of "Educational Shorts and Other Rarities" too, but since we were given HALF of Swamp Fox and Baca, I don't think it would be excessive to request a 4th tin to complete the shows.

Please, anyone who writes letters or starts petitions, let it be a request for one final fan-appreciation wave of Walt Disney Treasures tins, to include the following four.

The Chronological Donald Volume Three
The Chronological Donald Duck Volume Four
Disney Educational Shorts and Other Rarities
Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox Volume Two

Just a word of caution to this otherwise awesome request - Wasn't Elfego Baca and Swamp Fox possibly the least popular of all the Treasures releases? Am I also right in saying that we'd still need more than one volume to complete the SF/EB material anyway, requiring yet more waves?

If we are trying to salvage the situation from a decision that is already seemingly made, I think we may be unwise to push for another complete 4 set wave, including one of the shelf-sitting titles in our request. The live action material left over would still fit nicely into the legacy line, and it would be pretty impossible to release EVERY serial in the Treasures line anyway with such a ticking clock.

What we ARE desperately close to is completing the animated output of the Walt Era, and by requesting just a 3 set 'Donald 3', 'Donald 4' and 'Rareties/Key educational works' wave, we (the fans) are showing a compromise and telling them what is really important to finish off in this line.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see multiple EB/SF volumes be released, but in a situation where the first volume of that title likely helped make their decision to slow the Treasures down, let's not be too ambitious with our requests. Those 3 animated titles WILL make a PROFIT and that is the key language to talk in when we are picking our fights.

Everyone should definitely keep requesting, but just make sure Diz know that we're not asking them to carry on in exactly the same manner, but to compromise and complete the easily completable animation section of the line before changing direction.

Please ignore me if you disagree, I just wanted to throw a little exec logic out there for a moment so that they can be seen to at least win a little bit of the battle (but still get us the core of what we REALLY want if push comes to shove)

[scottwolf]

There are two kinds of people that work for Disney. Those who love it, and those who want money.

Unfortunately, those in charge of DVD's don't care. They probably don't care about Leonard Maltin and probably care less about Roy Disney.

Even if the Disney Treasures don't sell as well as Little Mermaid I don't know if Disney would sell the treasures. Would they just say they don't sell, or would they print a limited edition for those of us that love them?

I know that I once spoke to someone who was pretty high up and Buena Vista Home Entertainment. He was arrogant and ignorant.

I think we always hope that people who loves the parks will run the parks and people who have an affection for Disney media will run Home Video but they get these people who just don't care.

When I worked for Disney in animation I was made fun of because I loved Disney and went to Disneyland a couple times a month. The company even gave me a free pass for the parks but my co-workers didn't understand. That's because they were there for one reason... to make money.

I hope one day the right person will be in charge of Home Video. Then maybe we'll see more treasures preserved before the masters deterioriate further.

[Mason_Ireton]

I was stunned when I read the front page, not metion really ticked at myself for not taking advantage of these wonderful collections. My neighbor started me on Silly Symphonies (Vol. 1) and had a feeling that I'd like these collections of Disney Shorts, lately I've been trying to catching up on the collections by looking for Davy Corckett, Mickey Mouse: Living Color/Black and Whte (Vol. 1). It's been a pleasure of collecting Walt Disney Treasures and there's some unfinshed works to release: Jimminy Cricket's I'm No Fool, Disneyland (in seasons form) Zorro, Annete F. Collection and many more. We'll just have to wait/see bout the Legacy collection, I've bought Creatures of the wild and when Vol. 2 comes out I'm gon'na grab Oswald The Lucky Rabbit. Mr. Malitn you've been a great host/father to Walt Disney Treasures and I really appericate the efforts that were put into the collections.

write back please

sign Mason

[PixarFan2006]

I never thought it would come to this, the end of one of the best DVD collections from Disney. I am kicking myself for not buying them when they were first released back in 2001. I think it would be cool if they rereleased the first wave for those who missed out. I doubt it will ever work though. i don't trust Ebay so I would not look there for used copies and Amazon is out of the question.

[Lucylover1986]

I'm also upset with the Donald Duck issue too. So they're basically just going to let the rest of his cartoons sit in storage forever and never release it on DVD.

[rugbytiger]

I'm also upset with the Donald Duck issue too. So they're basically just going to let the rest of his cartoons sit in storage forever and never release it on DVD.

Do make sure you tell Disney that somehow too, by email or post, Lucylover1986 - they need to know directly what everyone is feeling, and it's not that likely that they're going to come here to read it!

I still think we can change the tide on this; don't give up!!

[James]

While it's sad to see this series farewell us, I can't say that I'm surprised. They didn't have much more to release and it's getting overshadowed by the newer Legacy series, which I guess is essentially a newer Treasures series, which is of comfort to the hardcore Treasures fans. I'm glad that they released Silly Symphonies, which I own, and I'm glad that they finished that one off with the second volume, which I hope is released in Australia soon. Hopefully the things that weren't put on these, are released on the Legacy DVDs, which will probably happen with the Donald educational shorts. Not sure about SotS though, but we'll hopefully get that on DVD too. R.I.P Walt Disney Treasures
-James

[I am the Doctor]

If a campaign is to be started up, I would suggest that we request a very specific 4-set final wave of Walt Disney Treasures. I don't think that would be excessive because 4 set waves were often what was released in the past. Of course, we need the two Donald tins remaining and would like a tin of "Educational Shorts and Other Rarities" too, but since we were given HALF of Swamp Fox and Baca, I don't think it would be excessive to request a 4th tin to complete the shows.

Please, anyone who writes letters or starts petitions, let it be a request for one final fan-appreciation wave of Walt Disney Treasures tins, to include the following four.

The Chronological Donald Volume Three
The Chronological Donald Duck Volume Four
Disney Educational Shorts and Other Rarities
Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox Volume Two

Just a word of caution to this otherwise awesome request - Wasn't Elfego Baca and Swamp Fox possibly the least popular of all the Treasures releases? Am I also right in saying that we'd still need more than one volume to complete the SF/EB material anyway, requiring yet more waves?

According to Bill Cotter's excellent book, The Wonderful World of Disney Television, there are a total of ten Elfego Baca episodes and eight Swamp Fox episodes. The first Treasure only had 3 EB and 3 SF, meaning there's still 12 episodes left or a total of two Treasures.

So, the question then becomes, do we push for a final wave of Treasures with two EB/SF volumes and two DD volumes (a total of four), or ignore EB/SF and push for the two DD volumes and a second Rarities disc, to cover the educational shorts and leftover animated shorts from the other discs?

I prefer the second option, since EB/SF can always be released later in the Legacy collection or better yet as complete series sets. Thoughts, anyone?

[brotherbear]

Man! This really bums me out! Yesterday, I was UBER excited about stuff for TJB:PE popping up on Disney's site, now I'm depressed. I honestly JUST STARTED collecting the Treasures, and I only have ONE so far. I knew that I would have to catch up on the others that I wanted (which, thankfully, I'm not a big fan of donald, goofy, or the gang..sorry), but I had NO IDEA that it would all end the exact year I began! Well, I guess this means I should pick up any Treasures that I want while they're still available, before they all dissapear. Forever. (Or, until many years from now, when they're rediscovered again). Thankfully, I only need SS: volume 1, On the Front Lines (I'm DESPERATELY searching for this one...), Rarities, and (if I can manage it) Behind the Scenes at the Walt Disney Studio to make me happy as far as the sets curently out there. I think I will pick up a copy of Rarities this weekend, if possible.

Buying More Silly Symphonies has made me realize what a special series these Treasures really are. I can say now, that I am officially HIGHLY dissapointed with Disney. I guess this is another black mark against Disney in my book....

-BB