What's wrong with just simple requests

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What's wrong with just simple requests

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Escapay wrote: :roll:

Why ask other people to waste their time for your benefit? Searching the internet may take longer than you want, but is always a helluva lot easier than always having to rely on other people to constantly point you in the right direction. That goes for both any internet search and forum searches. You're not five years old. We're not expected to lead you around everywhere and hold your hand saying, "You need this? We'll get it for you, just ask".

The last time you made an odd request, a lot of people helped out, and you still were asking, "No, I want something like this, not this." It was for pictures of trios, and you had really NO use for them other than "I'm just curious as to various pictures out there". It was a waste of my time, of their time, and ultimately what was there to show for it? A reason of pure insanity.

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Everything you say, Escapapy, makes me think that I must do EVERYTHING on my own with no help from anyone. What's wrong with odd requests? Searches just give me the runaround. Even "Ask.com" is no help, either.

What's wrong with just being curious about things?
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There is nothing wrong with being curious about things. But starting threads merely to have people search for things for you instead of searching yourself is not the best way to feed the curiosity. There are many search engines, many ways to use them. They do not "give you the runaround". It's a matter of knowing how to use the search engines.

I'm not saying that everything you need you should search for on your own. I'm merely saying to think about what you're asking for. Is it worth not searching yourself just to go to the trouble of making a thread in the forum, waiting around for people will respond, and when they do respond, see if they actually give what you need? Will the thread actually be something that truly sparks discussion? Often doing that route will result in either a topic that gets little to no replies, or a topic that get people asking "Why do you need this?", since it would be easier to find it in a search.

Making requests like "I need a picture of trios" or "I need a transcript of such-and-such" is fine, but are best if they have a purpose for some other project. Asking for them simply because you're curious won't always yield positive replies. While I'm sure some people got a kick out of the trio pictures, all it amounted to was a vague "Oh, I just wanted to see some pictures". I'm sure people who contributed to the thread felt, "That's it? That's all it was for?". Makes their work and time finding them for you feel wasted, or at least unnecessary.

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Escapay wrote:There is nothing wrong with being curious about things. But starting threads merely to have people search for things for you instead of searching yourself is not the best way to feed the curiosity. There are many search engines, many ways to use them. They do not "give you the runaround". It's a matter of knowing how to use the search engines.

I'm not saying that everything you need you should search for on your own. I'm merely saying to think about what you're asking for. Is it worth not searching yourself just to go to the trouble of making a thread in the forum, waiting around for people will respond, and when they do respond, see if they actually give what you need? Will the thread actually be something that truly sparks discussion? Often doing that route will result in either a topic that gets little to no replies, or a topic that get people asking "Why do you need this?", since it would be easier to find it in a search.
Okay, it's not that I don't know how to use the search engines. I know how to use 'em well! I even put plusses and minuses for anything I want or don't want. The truth is, they're just very unreliable and I keep thinking, "They're must be an easier way than this to attain results." Also, I'm reluctant to do any bumping, because I'm worried that it may not be all that "worth it" and that I'd have to create a new thread. For instance, I would really like to talk about topics on stuff already mentioned in the past and I know that they exist, but I'm afraid of bumping them for fear they may not be "worth it".
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Search should be pretty reliable. But don't sweat it if you start a needless new thread. Escapay will point you to a relevant one and either myself or one of the other mods will be happy to merge yours with it. It's really in everybody's interest that threads that are along the same line be kept together so that valuable contributions remain present and not tucked away.

Do check out Escapay's search engine thread found atop General Discussion for tips on making Search work better for you.
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Luke wrote:Escapay will point you to a relevant one and either myself or one of the other mods will be happy to merge yours with it.
But suppose I ask for a merging of threads, only to get a response of... NOTHING?
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Big Disney Fan wrote:But suppose I ask for a merging of threads, only to get a response of... NOTHING?
We only have a handful of moderators and according to the forum index, 281,420 posts. We're bound to miss some of them if we are expected to do things mere humans must, like sleep, eat, groom, interact socially, etc.

If you request a merge and don't get a response, simply e-mail either myself, AwallaceUNC, 2099net, or pinkrenata (pick one, please), and we'll be happy to address the situation, either with a merge or further advice, in due time.
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We're bound to miss some of them if we are expected to do things mere humans must, like sleep, eat, groom, interact socially, etc.
What do you mean by groom? :o :lol:
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