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2099net wrote:
Escapay wrote:CORE is neither owned nor operated by Disney.

Disney merely has a financial agreement to distribute its films. Nothing else.

A statement like "A film produced by CORE but distributed by Disney is actually a Disney Film" is incorrect.

Therefore, Disney UK branding "The Wild" as Disney's 46th Animated Classic is false advertising as it promotes it as a Disney film, not a Disney-distributed CORE film, regardless of the confusing status of what's supposed to fit in the DAC canon.

If it were "Disney Presents a CORE Production of 'The Wild' ", then it would be correct.

Blatantly leaving out any credit for CORE and Disney claiming the film as their own is simply dishonest, REGARDLESS if it's a good or bad film, and certainly regardless if someone chooses whether or not to own the film.

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How do you know how much input Disney had into The Wild? IMDB (not the most accurate of sources, granted) lists Disney as a production company ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405469/companycredits ) while they don't for say, Valiant ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361089/companycredits ) meaning Disney probably has some financial input and ownership of The Wild (both the film and the characters). They probably have as much co-ownership as they did of Pixar's films and characters.
Well, let's look at some other films for an example...

"Titanic" is a James Cameron film that was produced through his Lightstorm Entertainment company, and mainly bankrolled through 20th Century Fox. When Fox (perhaps unwisely) said "No more money, we gave you enough and you're over budget", Paramount simply stepped in, paid however much was needed, and in turn, got the domestic distribution rights, while 20th Century Fox held on to the international distribution rights. So...is Titanic more of a 20th Century Fox film since they provided the bulk of the budget...or more of a Paramount film since they stepped in and provided the rest...or is it really just James Cameron's film and they distribute it for him?

"The Silence of the Lambs" is the second book and second movie in the Hannibal Lecter trilogy (Manhunter/Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal). It was directed by Jonathan Demme, produced through Orion Pictures, while the initial distribution/character/ownership rights are owned by DEG (de Laurentiis Entertainment Group). MGM acquired the Orion library, and produced a fine special edition of the Film. So...is Silence of the Lambs an MGM film, an Orion film, or a DEG film?

Many of Spielberg's films are produced through Amblin Entertainment, yet distributed through the major motion picture companies (Universal, Paramount, Warner Brothers, and DreamWorks). Empire of the Sun is no more a WB film, than E.T. is a Universal Film. They're Spielberg/Amblin films distributed by larger companies.

I guess what I'm trying to say is a company may be listed as part of the producers of a film, but it's likely in-name-only since their major contributions were towards funding a film or distributing a film.

In "The Wild"'s case, I think Disney's only listed in the production credits because CORE is likely a much smaller company than Vanguard (Valiant). If you look at the distribution lists, CORE's main distributor is Buena Vista (Disney), while Vanguard has a lot more. But I think the main argument is that CORE is the primary production company for "The Wild", and should be credited as such on any release, not just Disney because of their name.

It'd be like if I wrote a book called "Sex and Violence: The Dangers of Playing the Piano", had Nicholas Sparks write the introduction, and then have Harper Collins publish it as a Nicholas Sparks book, even though it was really mine. Disney may have had a hand in producing the film, but from everything we know, it's more likely a CORE film than a Disney film, and as such, CORE should be the credited company more so than Disney. Thus, calling it a Disney Animated Classic is mislabeling in a list that is already confusing anyway. Like trying to fit a square peg in a circular hole that could possibly be an oval.

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Julian Carter wrote:Yes! Yess! YESSSS!!

Escapay! I love you! I love you so much! You had me jumping up and down on my chair with satisfaction!! rotfl
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Escapay wrote: Good, now bring back your Not Escapay! avatar.
I'm not sure what you mean by that, do you really want me to change it back?

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Just a little note:

Escapay, how do you know when the major studios (20th Century Fox, Universal Studios...) actually produce their own films? Usually you can detect a case of "big-studio-distributes-small-studio-produces" when during the opening credits you spy:

"The Wonderful Name of the Established Film Studio"
Presents...


A "The Seldom Heard Of Name of the Production Company"
Production


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Well, it goes both ways. What about Pirates of the Carribean? That's not just a Disney film, its made by Jerry Bruckhiemer productions.

Yet, they're never mentioned on the cover. You can bet a big name like JB holds a lot of creative control (and finance) over the pictures he makes - the man's a modern day cinematic legend.

He even has enough clout to stop Disney producing a full screen version of his films (not just the POTC films, but also Pearl Harbor). How many Disney family films don't have full screen versions of both versions on 1 disc? Even Brian Henson couldn't stop that fate on his Muppet Movies!

We can argue about films changing hands - although in this day and age it generally only happens on companies going bust or being bought out. It was more common in the early years (as you yourself have pointed out - Universal got a lot of Paramounts, Warners own almost all of the per-1986 MGM titles except for UA titles, which are now owned by Sony, but distributed by Fox(in the US at anyrate)) Phew! It's all so confusing.

But saying Walt Disney presents a C.O.R.E. film is silly. Most films are made outside the studio system these days, and shopped around. Universal don't says "Universal presents an Amblin Entertainment film" on the E.T. case for example.

Now as for the numbering of DACs - there is no numbering anymore in the US. So the whole argument is moot for US residents - its a system no longer in use. As for elsewhere, France for example has its films numbered up to past 100 (I believe) because they count any animated film, be it WDFA, live-action/animation, DTV or even compilations*.

If the UK decides to count any new theatrical film as a classic (which is what they appear to be doing) then let them. The system was too confusing for the average person anyway. Disney US decided to end the confusion by dropping the system, the UK either [a] decided to end the confusion by counting any theatrical release or got confused themselves and made a mistake (which is possible).

But numbers don't mean anything. They only started numbering them when home videos went on sale to help drive sales up. A DAC is not a mark of quality (or else, how would the Aristocats or Sword in the Stone be included, while Mary Poppins isn't? Or The Nightmare Before Xmas isn't (after all it was made to be a Disney branded movie, and virtually is now). As for them coming from WDFA, its a bit of a tenuous link. After all Mulan, Lilo and Stitch, Brother Bear were made in a totally different location. Most of Tarzan was animated in France. Nobody who worked on Snow White worked on Home on the Range or Chicken Little. American Dog which most people are happy to have listed as a future DAC is actually being made by Stormcrest pictures as well as Disney (see http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/id/3464441 - I believe this is Chris Sanders' own production company). What about Silver Screen Partners II, III and IV? Are all their films Disney DACS?

Time has moved on since even the early days of home video when "the rules" were written. Films require more investment, studios generally keep fewer people on regular employment, and co-productions are becoming more and more popular.

* I may be wrong on this, and can't be bothered to check.
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Escapay, you are a genius! If anybody who reads your post hasn't changed their minds by now, then I don't think anybody can get through to them. Well done!
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Julian Carter wrote:
Escapay wrote: Good, now bring back your Not Escapay! avatar.
I'm not sure what you mean by that, do you really want me to change it back?
:lol: I was just being silly. It got confusing for me when you had it, though, lol. I was wondering, "When did I say that?", then it suddenly flashes "NOT ESCAPAY".
Julian Carter wrote:Escapay, how do you know when the major studios (20th Century Fox, Universal Studios...) actually produce their own films? Usually you can detect a case of "big-studio-distributes-small-studio-produces" when during the opening credits you spy:

"The Wonderful Name of the Established Film Studio"
Presents...


A "The Seldom Heard Of Name of the Production Company"
Production
If it's something like:

"20th Century Fox Presents

An EscapayWorks Production/An Escapay Production (see reason below)

A Film by Escapay

Bananas"

That would likely indicate:

1. Escapay is the director of "Bananas"

2. Escapay also has his own production company, EscapayWorks
OR
2. Escapay has in his contract that he also gets a Production credit.

3. 20th Century Fox Presents the film aka distributes the film, and possibly produced the film as well.

But let's say that 20th Century Fox produced and distributed the film, and all Escapay did was direct. It'd look more like this...

"20th Century Fox Presents

Bananas

Directed by Escapay"

Usually you'll see the former, while you won't find the latter that much these days, as directors like having their own production company, while having a contract with the studio to invest and finance X amounts of pictures for them.

But back in the heydey of the studio system (1930s-1950s), each studio produced their own films (well, save for some independent studios like Selznick International). Back then, you could tell which studio made the film without seeing the credits that said who did, because they had a distinctive "feel' to it unique to each studio.

For example, there was a very different style in musicals between MGM and 20th Century Fox. Just compare a splashy showpiece like Singin' in the Rain to a more epic one like Oklahoma. MGM dazzles you with the intense numbers and vibrant color, while 20th Century Fox brings you a wholly real world that just happens to have music be a factor of life.

I tried grabbing films randomly on my DVD shelf from recent years to see if any have been studio-produced-and-distributed, and oddly, couldn't find any, as most are only distributed. I guess the best example, and the one we seem to go back to here on these boards, are Disney films. The majority of them are still produced-and-distributed by Disney, though directors still get a "A (director) Production" credit as well.

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2099net wrote:Well, it goes both ways. What about Pirates of the Carribean? That's not just a Disney film, its made by Jerry Bruckhiemer productions.

Yet, they're never mentioned on the cover. You can bet a big name like JB holds a lot of creative control (and finance) over the pictures he makes - the man's a modern day cinematic legend.

He even has enough clout to stop Disney producing a full screen version of his films (not just the POTC films, but also Pearl Harbor). How many Disney family films don't have full screen versions of both versions on 1 disc? Even Brian Henson couldn't stop that fate on his Muppet Movies!
Yeah, I had forgotten about that when I was talking about the other movies, and remembered it when I was replying in my last post here (about "Major company presents Minor Company production Film Name"). I'm not quite sure how to answer that, as I can't exactly say, "Well POTC is not a Disney film because it was produced by JB". I guess that Disney and JB both had creative control on the film in that they were Disney-originated characters, while JB had more hands in how to present the characters/story. But in the end, more people have heard of Disney than Bruckheimer, which is probably why there's little/no mention of Bruckheimer on advertisements.

And now...I've realized the same can apply to Disney and CORE. That regardless who had the "bigger hand" in creative control of the film, Disney is the better known name, and the more marketable name.

As for the entire Canon thing, it's confused the hell out of me the past few days and I don't even think i'll bother trying to sort out the Disney UK incident. After all, I'm in Disney US, so why should I worry? :lol:
netty wrote:We can argue about films changing hands - although in this day and age it generally only happens on companies going bust or being bought out. It was more common in the early years (as you yourself have pointed out - Universal got a lot of Paramounts, Warners own almost all of the per-1986 MGM titles except for UA titles, which are now owned by Sony, but distributed by Fox(in the US at anyrate)) Phew! It's all so confusing.
Confusing yes, but a fascinating topic to talk about. Others I can think of off the top of my head:

-MGM owning Orion films, Embassy Films, Mirisch Company films, Goldwyn Company films, etc.
-MGM and WB owning an assorted mix of CastleRock films
-Hitchcock films in the public domain
-Hitchcock's Selznick films now under distribution rights from MGM (so now under distribution rights from Fox), and most are OOP from Criterion
-Anchor Bay licensing out lots of independent titles or studio titles that can't be bothered to release it (AB distributing Heathers on DVD, licensed out by Fox)
-Paramount buying LionsGate, who had bought Artisan, who had bought Republic's catalog, and Paramount was originally going to distribute all the Republic films, but now gave several to LionsGate to distribute.
-Where the hell is my Twin Peaks Season 2, dammit???
netty wrote:Now as for the numbering of DACs - there is no numbering anymore in the US. So the whole argument is moot for US residents - its a system no longer in use. As for elsewhere, France for example has its films numbered up to past 100 (I believe) because they count any animated film, be it WDFA, live-action/animation, DTV or even compilations*.
netty wrote:If the UK decides to count any new theatrical film as a classic (which is what they appear to be doing) then let them. The system was too confusing for the average person anyway. Disney US decided to end the confusion by dropping the system, the UK either [a] decided to end the confusion by counting any theatrical release or got confused themselves and made a mistake (which is possible).

Well, I honestly just consider it a technicality on the list that I feel should be fixed simply because "The Wild" is more of a CORE film distributed by Disney than it is a bona fide Disney film. It irks me that its' being called the DAC46 on a list that's not reliable anymore, but only because it presents itself and is being marketed as a wholly Disney film.

But of course, to provide a counter argument, we can go back to POTC, which is Disney and Bruckheimer, while the Disney name is being thrown around more than the Bruckheimer name.

netty wrote:As for them coming from WDFA, its a bit of a tenuous link. After all Mulan, Lilo and Stitch, Brother Bear were made in a totally different location. Most of Tarzan was animated in France. Nobody who worked on Snow White worked on Home on the Range or Chicken Little. American Dog which most people are happy to have listed as a future DAC is actually being made by Stormcrest pictures as well as Disney (see http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/id/3464441 - I believe this is Chris Sanders' own production company). What about Silver Screen Partners II, III and IV? Are all their films Disney DACS?

A somewhat related story that I can offer that can really won't help solve the DAC canon animation-location thingy, but is interesting nonetheless.

Soap Operas originated on radio in Chicago, but didn't really get big until they were transmitted from New York (mostly from Manhattan). Television soap operas also spawned out from New York, and the majority of them in the past 55+ years have been from New York, while only about a dozen or so were produced in California.

At a messageboard I used to go to, the administrator there only believed that the programs that were produced in New York were allowed to be called soap operas, while anything produced elsewhere (be it California, Canada, the UK, Australia), could only be referred to as "daytime drama" or "serialized drama". The guy was adamant about this standing, and if one wanted to talk about Days of Our Lives (a California produced soap), they couldn't call it by name, but refer to it as "The hourglass show in LA".

It ticked a lot of people off, as they couldn't understand how a location can dictate what's a "true" soap opera and what isn't. I once asked him, "So, if As the World Turns moved production from Manhattan to Boston, it wouldn't be a soap anymore since it's not in New York. And if Passions moved from LA to New York, it'd be a true soap". He said yes to both. I then asked, "What about actors that appeared on both? John Beradino was on General Hospital for 33 years, yet spent a day on One Life to Live as a guest star for a crossover". He said that John Beradino wasn't a soap opera actor, since he only had a one-day stint. I left the boards shortly after that. The guy was willing to write off 33 years of a guy's career just because he happened to be in California for it.

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I suppose the first thing I should do is thank Netty and Escapay for those extensive explanations. Well done!

Now that we have mentioned Silver Screen Partners, is everything about them a mystery though? If I'm not mistaken, they appeare on every Disney animated feature from The Black Cauldron to Beauty and the Beast. As strange as it may seem, when watching Beauty and the Beast a couple of years ago, on the Region 2 digipack, I noticed that the "Silver Screen Partners" opening credit had been edited out. It now simply reads "Walt Disney Pictures Presents". Whoever they were, I don't think they would have been pleased to see themselves edited out from the beginning of the movie, unless they merged with WDFA or something... :?
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Julian Carter wrote:I suppose the first thing I should do is thank Netty and Escapay for those extensive explanations. Well done!

Now that we have mentioned Silver Screen Partners, is everything about them a mystery though? If I'm not mistaken, they appeare on every Disney animated feature from The Black Cauldron to Beauty and the Beast. As strange as it may seem, when watching Beauty and the Beast a couple of years ago, on the Region 2 digipack, I noticed that the "Silver Screen Partners" opening credit had been edited out. It now simply reads "Walt Disney Pictures Presents". Whoever they were, I don't think they would have been pleased to see themselves edited out from the beginning of the movie, unless they merged with WDFA or something... :?
They're actually still credited at the start of the UK Beauty and the Beast!

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Netty, I just skimmed through that article you provided, and to be honest, was almost disturbed by the prescence of GWB in Silver Screen Partners. Now the article said that SSP was a production company that made movies for e.g. Tristar and Disney. I don't know if I missed something (I read it very quickly), but it didn't seem to explain what SSP did exactly. I don't think they co-produced animated and live-action movies with Disney in that they animated or shot certain parts. I think it's more rational to thnk that they partially funded them.

Now about this GWB thing. It appears (according to the article) that GWB did not really take part in the productions save for funding them and a couple of other things. I would therefore like to say that GWB has and had nothing to do with Disney. I mean...I'm not exactly a George Bush Fan. :wink:
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Julian Carter wrote:Netty, I just skimmed through that article you provided, and to be honest, was almost disturbed by the prescence of GWB in Silver Screen Partners. Now the article said that SSP was a production company that made movies for e.g. Tristar and Disney. I don't know if I missed something (I read it very quickly), but it didn't seem to explain what SSP did exactly. I don't think they co-produced animated and live-action movies with Disney in that they animated or shot certain parts. I think it's more rational to thnk that they partially funded them.

Now about this GWB thing. It appears (according to the article) that GWB did not really take part in the productions save for funding them and a couple of other things. I would therefore like to say that GWB has and had nothing to do with Disney. I mean...I'm not exactly a George Bush Fan. :wink:
I would agree Silver Screen Partners mostly co-funded the films. But with funding comes ownership (or co-ownership) and perhaps even creative input (GWB was only on the board, and would be responsible for business, not artistic decisions). Given that the Silver Screen Partners credit was removed from most Beauty and the Beast DVDs, perhaps Disney have bought out SSP share?

Remember, when SSP started working with Disney, it was when the future of the company was in doubt. Disney really had little money and were threatened with being taken over by another studio several times. So, yes, I think its fair to say Disney would have needed some help to fund its movies.
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2099net wrote:I would agree Silver Screen Partners mostly co-funded the films. But with funding comes ownership (or co-ownership) and perhaps even creative input (GWB was only on the board, and would be responsible for business, not artistic decisions). Given that the Silver Screen Partners credit was removed from most Beauty and the Beast DVDs, perhaps Disney have bought out SSP share?

Remember, when SSP started working with Disney, it was when the future of the company was in doubt. Disney really had little money and were threatened with being taken over by another studio several times. So, yes, I think its fair to say Disney would have needed some help to fund its movies.
Ok. So I think we can safely come to the conclusion that the Disney films of that era were made by Disney and Disney alone. Maybe they had some itsy bitsy little creative input from SSP, but that is not confirmed. We can give it the benefit of the doubt. I also agree with you that it is rational to think Disney needed help, especially after the disaster that was The Black Cauldron. However, the Silver Screen Partners are also credited at the end of Cauldron, meaning that Disney was already in need of some support before the Cauldron fiasco. Now I assume that the money made from the movies was shared between Disney and SSP, much in the same way as it was shared between Disney and Pixar at the time when they were bound by just a contract. Come to think of it, if our assumptions on SSP are correct, then Disney were acting precisely like SSP with Pixar.
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In the film "Dream On, Silly Dreamer," which is a documentary with mostly ex-Disney animators who lost their jobs when Disney decided to stop doing traditional animation, many of the animators recall the days when WDFA was making "The Little Mermaid" and "Beauty and the Beast." The animation unit had been kicked out of the Burbank studio and those films were animated in trailors in a parking lot! And from these interviews, it seemed like both of those films were entirely produced by WDFA from conception to animation. They talked of how being out of the studio was really a blessing in disguise because they had pure creative freedom. Executives weren't constantly walking through and changing things and giving their imput. "The Little Mermaid" was the first film to make lots of money for them in a long time. As each film did better and better at the box office, they were praised with raises, bonuses, and free hats! lol. After the success of "The Lion King," the new animation studio was built at the studios and the animators were moved back onto the lot. Now, it is not directly stated, but it seems like this could be the cause of the diminishing quality of output from WDFA. One member of story development tells her tale of being re-located with the company because executives decided that from now on, they would be writing the storys. Anyways, I'm getting off topic. If you haven't seen the film, you really should. What I'm trying to say is that from this film, it seems that Silver Screen Partners had nothing to do with story development or animation, but simply helped to fund the film. And after "Beauty and the Beast," they were droped because Disney was making so much money that they no longer needed financial help. I would also assume the IF SSP were helping with the films, that the films directly after would seem to different, but when watching "Aladdin," "The Lion King," "Pocahontas," and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," I feel that all these films are coming from the same artists.
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Escapay wrote:
reyquila wrote:I'm more important to them than you. Yes, I'm a valued customer and you... well you type very well.
Congratulations, reyquila. With that one line, you've managed to insult everyone at this board who has freedom of choice in where they choose to spend their money. :clap: :roll:

Seriously, you need to get over yourself. You're not the only one in the world to own a boatload of animated Disney DVDs. There are likely hundreds more out in the world, who have far larger collections than you. Disney may bloody well value them more than they value you.

And if, for a moment, I can indulge myself in some castmember pride and some forum immaturity, let me just say this: DISNEY VALUES ME MORE THAN THEY VALUE YOU BECAUSE THEY PAY ME TO WORK IN THEIR OVERHEATED AND OVERPOPULATED PARK EVERY SUMMER. :P :P :P

Okay, enough with the castmember pride.

And I still say they should produce or at least distribute under their name some animated porn just to see if reyquila buys it.

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reyquila wrote:They own the company.
No they don't.
So, it's yours now!! WOW. Why don't you own The Wild then!!!
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reyquila wrote:
Escapay wrote: Congratulations, reyquila. With that one line, you've managed to insult everyone at this board who has freedom of choice in where they choose to spend their money. :clap: :roll:

Seriously, you need to get over yourself. You're not the only one in the world to own a boatload of animated Disney DVDs. There are likely hundreds more out in the world, who have far larger collections than you. Disney may bloody well value them more than they value you.

And if, for a moment, I can indulge myself in some castmember pride and some forum immaturity, let me just say this: DISNEY VALUES ME MORE THAN THEY VALUE YOU BECAUSE THEY PAY ME TO WORK IN THEIR OVERHEATED AND OVERPOPULATED PARK EVERY SUMMER. :P :P :P

Okay, enough with the castmember pride.

And I still say they should produce or at least distribute under their name some animated porn just to see if reyquila buys it.

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"It was the happiest time of my life," said a high school teacher who moonlighted as night supervisor on Main Street. "I taught to pay the bills, I worked at Disneyland to feed my soul. For a little guy who was just gonna be a little fish, I did all right. I always enjoyed it. I'd rather do that than anything. I wouldn't trade it for anything."

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reyquila wrote:
Julian Carter wrote: No they don't.
So, it's yours now!! WOW. Why don't you own The Wild then!!!
Oh yeah, I do own it. I just don't like people to know. I'm kind of one of those affluent tycoons from Las Vegas. I made my fortune and came to Malta and built myself a large villa with a pool. I own ten copies of A Bug's Life, and this summer I bought off C.O.R.E and it all belongs to me. Me! Me! Me! (Along with fifteen copies of The Wild, and another 5 pre-ordered Blu-Ray versions).

Reyquila, you think other people are insignificant flies and treat them like immature 6 year old kids. With this behaviour, you barely deserve to be treated like a 2 year old toddler. Shame on you!
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Julian Carter wrote:
reyquila wrote: So, it's yours now!! WOW. Why don't you own The Wild then!!!
Oh yeah, I do own it. I just don't like people to know. I'm kind of one of those affluent tycoons from Las Vegas. I made my fortune and came to Malta and built myself a large villa with a pool. I own ten copies of A Bug's Life, and this summer I bought off C.O.R.E and it all belongs to me. Me! Me! Me! (Along with fifteen copies of The Wild, and another 5 pre-ordered Blu-Ray versions).

Reyquila, you think other people are insignificant flies and treat them like immature 6 year old kids. With this behaviour, you barely deserve to be treated like a 2 year old toddler. Shame on you!
You own five copies and yet you haven't seen the movie.
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reyquila wrote:You own five copies and yet you haven't seen the movie.
I was being sarcastic, in case you didn't notice.
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Julian Carter wrote:
reyquila wrote:You own five copies and yet you haven't seen the movie.
I was being sarcastic, in case you didn't notice.
Wave a shiny new animated Disney DVD in his eyes and maybe he will.

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