Fox 2 Disc Collection Edition.....spine number help!!!!!

[MickeyMousePal]

Amazon Wrote:

20th Century Fox has been re-releasing alot of their classic films on 2-Disc DVD sets with a custom made packageing. The new packageing is very creative and detailed. Every film that is already relased is a classic and if you want to start a great DVD collection all these films are great to have and will be cherished forever. Here is what Fox has released so far...

#1- 'The Abyss (Double Digipack)'
#2- 'Cast Away (Double Digipack)'
#3- 'Independence Day (Double Digipack)'
#4- 'Planet of the Apes (Double Digipack)'
#5- 'The Sound of Music (Double Digipack)'
#6- 'Moulin Rouge (Double Digipack)'
#7- 'Die Hard (Double Digipack)'
#8- 'There's Something More About Mary (Widescreen 2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#9- 'Fight Club'
#10- 'Alien - The Director's Cut (Collector's Edition)'
#11- 'Aliens (Collector's Edition)'
#12- 'Alien 3 (Collector's Edition)'
#13- 'Alien Resurrection (Collector's Edition)'
#14- 'Planet of the Apes (Widescreen 35th Anniversary Edition)'
#15- 'Predator (Widescreen Collector's Edition)'
#16- 'The Commitments (Collector's Edition)'
#17- 'I, Robot (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#18- 'Man on Fire (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#19- 'The Day After Tomorrow (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#20- 'The Fly (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#21- 'The Fly II (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#22- 'Elektra (Unrated Director's Cut)'
#23- 'AVP - Alien Vs. Predator (Unrated Director's Cut)'

#27 Mr. and Mrs. Smith Unrated Edition

What ever happen to #24-#26?

So why did this series skip #24-#26...can someone please help me...

[Lazario]

Maybe the new 2-disc editions of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Poseidon Adventure, and Towering Inferno fit in there somewhere... Maybe not? I don't own any of them of course. But some of those have to fit in the missing numbers. Plus, isn't there a couple Die Hards, Speed, and Predator 2 missing from that line-up as well?

If I had to guess, I'd say it looks like the 3 missing numbers have to be Poseidon, Towering, and Butch Cassidy. I believe Butch Cassidy was released either before or on the same day as M&M Smith Unrated. But Predator 2 was definitely released in a 2-disc Collector's Edition back in late 2004 or early 2005. So that would definitely be on that list somewhere. After Predator and the Alien series Collector's Editions, but before the Fly's.

Also, the Five-Star Collection series should also count in there somewhere... There was a 2-disc edition of M*A*S*H, I think that should probably figure in there somewhere as well. I see that was released/re-released as a 2-disc Collector's Edition in February of this year.

So that seems to mean that if Butch Cassidy is 28, then either M*A*S*H or Predator 2 should be 24. And most likely, Poseidon and Towering are 25 and 26... I think.

Oh wait... what about the Star Wars series? Maybe this means that either the first 3 or the second 3 sets of movies in that series are 24, 25, and 26... The set of the first three could be 24, 25, and 26, or the individual releases of all those Ewan McGregor/Samuel L. Jackson Star Wars movies could be those missing numbers. A lot of confusion, isn't it?

[MickeyMousePal]

Predator 2 didn't have a number and I don't think Star Wars will be in this lineup.

I was thinking Butch Cassidy and Garfield might fit up there.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

Actually, Star Wars isn't owned by 20th Century Fox, they're owned by LucasFilm. They're only distributed by 20th Century Fox. Yes, believe it or not, all 6 Star Wars films are actually independant films. So those couldn't be part of that series.

Well Pals, I tried to search on-line, but I didn't find much, however, I did find out 20th Century Fox released a 2-Disc set of The Omen the same time they released Mr. and Mrs. Smith? Possibility?

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Garfield: The Movie doesn't have a spine number, well the one that I have doesn't. Unless you are talking about a different Garfield. Sorry I couldn't help!

[MickeyMousePal]

I was talking about the new Garfield edition that came out yesterday but I don't think it's a two disc.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Oh, sorry. I guess I should've asked, huh? Anyway, hope you find what you are looking for.

[MickeyMousePal]

TheSequelofDisney I wasn't trying to be mean but thanks for your help anyways.

[Tom in North Carolina]

I was thinking Butch Cassidy

The new Butch Cassidy is #28.

Tom

[SofaKing381222]

Haha I was just about to report about Butch Cassidy... too late

But the Garfield 2-Disc DOES NOT have a spine number. I actually have no freakin' idea about the missing 3 numbers. I just bought the Mr and Mrs Smith #27 and have been keeping up with these releases for years. I dont know what I could have missed. It's probably some that were released minus the # on the side, like the Something About Mary DVD.

[SofaKing381222]

AHHH Just found this on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/gu ... 79-1973526

20th Century Fox has been re-releasing alot of their classic films on 2-Disc DVD sets with a custom made packageing. The new packageing is very creative and detailed. Every film that is already relased is a classic and if you want to start a great DVD collection all these films are great to have and will be cherished forever. Here is what Fox has released so far...

#1- 'The Abyss (Double Digipack)'
#2- 'Cast Away (Double Digipack)'
#3- 'Independence Day (Double Digipack)'
#4- 'Planet of the Apes (Double Digipack)'
#5- 'The Sound of Music (Double Digipack)'
#6- 'Moulin Rouge (Double Digipack)'
#7- 'Die Hard (Double Digipack)'
#8- 'There's Something More About Mary (Widescreen 2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#9- 'Fight Club'
#10- 'Alien - The Director's Cut (Collector's Edition)'
#11- 'Aliens (Collector's Edition)'
#12- 'Alien 3 (Collector's Edition)'
#13- 'Alien Resurrection (Collector's Edition)'
#14- 'Planet of the Apes (Widescreen 35th Anniversary Edition)'
#15- 'Predator (Widescreen Collector's Edition)'
#16- 'The Commitments (Collector's Edition)'
#17- 'I, Robot (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#18- 'Man on Fire (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#19- 'The Day After Tomorrow (All-Access Collector's Edition)'
#20- 'The Fly (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#21- 'The Fly II (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#22- 'Elektra (Unrated Director's Cut)'
#23- 'AVP - Alien Vs. Predator (Unrated Director's Cut)'
#24- 'Walk the Line (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#25- 'Napoleon Dynamite - Like, the Best Special Edition Ever!'
#26- 'The Boondock Saints (Unrated Special Edition)'
#27- 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith - Unrated (Two-Disc Collector's Edition)'
#28- 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (2-Disc Collector's Edition)'

All the films have a number on the side and if you collect them all, they all look really nice lined up on your DVD shelf. So start a great DVD collection with these great films...

Well, I guess that answers our question. I wonder why they don't have the numbers? Hoping maybe they'd sell better?

[MickeyMousePal]

SofaKing381222 thanks...now I only need #5, #26 and #28...might just exchange Mr. and Mrs. Smith it has a defect.

#5 is hard to find so I'll probably just put the new Sound of Music in it's place now since I'll try to find the double digipack on e-bay.

[Lazario]

20th Century Fox needs to get it's act together. The fact that some 2-discs have spine numbers, others don't. Why? Some 2-discs are called Collector's Editions, other's aren't. It makes no sense. Is it a system of worth? There isn't even a general genre distinction. I heard their Studio Classics line are mostly single-discs with spine numbers. That actually gels, it makes sense. They aren't putting Home Alone next to The Ox-Bow Incident. Now they can't even manage to keep the 2-disc Collector's Editions called Collector's Editions because some are Unrated Editions (bad title for a 2-disc special/collector's edition, since Unrated implies the movie's sleazy). And others are blatant rip-offs of Paramount's new interesting line of DVDs with funny Edition names. Unless Paramount ripped off 20th Century Fox first (they certainly ripped off someone with their double-dipping ways).

Actually, Star Wars isn't owned by 20th Century Fox, they're owned by LucasFilm. They're only distributed by 20th Century Fox.

Well, that's what I meant. But aside from Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and THX - what does LucasFilm do? What are they? Sounds like THX was their bread and butter and they just collect the money on the popularity of their 2 main film series - VHS, DVD (now), laserdisc (then), and merchandise (and of course the new movies). George Lucas is a confirmed egomaniac. Without the success of Star Wars, there would be no LucasFilm. At least, not a LucasFilm that thinks it's a 20th Century Fox or Paramount. He owes a great deal of the success of his series to Prmnt and Fox - they were partly responsible for drawing in a great deal of the crowd that began the word of mouth campaign. Otherwise, this would have been strictly a cult movie (we know it's cult, but it's not just cult, which makes all the difference in terms of it's legacy). I mean, this is hardly the first movie (or movie series) to be picked up by (a) major studio(s). Seriously now, if LucasFilm can't completely make and distribute their films on their own, they should stop pushing everyone around. I'll bet Lucas's stubbornness of the first SW boxset release equalled lost revenue for Fox.

The Omen comes out on either June 13th or 20th (that SHOULD have a spine number).

[MickeyMousePal]

I just got both #26- 'The Boondock Saints (Unrated Special Edition)
and #28- 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (2-Disc Collector's Edition).

Exchanged #27- 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith - Unrated (Two-Disc Collector's Edition)

[Lazario]

Just so 20th Century Fox knows, after utter garbage like The Day After Tomorrow and Man on Fire getting 2-disc editions... they owe Edward Scissorhands and Mrs. Doubtfire equal treatments. Not to mention with the re-distribute-ments of M*A*S*H and so on (when was the 2-disc of The Abyss re-released?), I see no reason why The Rocky Horror Picture Show should only have the single-disc edition remaining available on the marketplace.

And in some 1-disc news, Fox just gave Alfred Hitchcock's Lifeboat a Special Edition. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm sure it's great. The DVD seems to break from the Studio Classics line a bit. The bonus features don't include a trailer, but there is an audio commentary, a making-of featurette, and a photo gallery. I hope this makes someone happy while the wait to Universal's August release of Double Indemnity continues.

[2099net]

Just so 20th Century Fox knows, after utter garbage like The Day After Tomorrow and Man on Fire getting 2-disc editions... they owe Edward Scissorhands and Mrs. Doubtfire equal treatments. Not to mention with the re-distribute-ments of M*A*S*H and so on (when was the 2-disc of The Abyss re-released?), I see no reason why The Rocky Horror Picture Show should only have the single-disc edition remaining available on the marketplace.

Well, both those films, no matter what their merits have excellent 2 disc sets. I don't know, but often I find myself buying discs for the extras just as much as the film. And at least 5/10 the documentaries (which is what Fox has on their 2 disc sets - not featurettes - are often more interesting than the movies). While I agree with out on Edward Scissorhands, I can't really see how they could do much with Mrs Doubtfire... not a 1.5 hour plus "making of" anyway, as the film was pretty "normal" technically.

Sadly, as Fox have often stated themselves, the DVD of RHPS dramatically underperformed to their expectations saleswise. Its a shame as its another good 2 disc set. The documentary content may be weaker than on Fox's modern releases, but they made up for it by filming lots of audience participation stuff, the 2 (3 with Easter Egg) versions of the film and, most important of all, a proper 5.1 remix from the original elements, not the God-awful dubbing of Rocky we've had to endure in the past.

And in some 1-disc news, Fox just gave Alfred Hitchcock's Lifeboat a Special Edition. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm sure it's great. The DVD seems to break from the Studio Classics line a bit. The bonus features don't include a trailer, but there is an audio commentary, a making-of featurette, and a photo gallery. I hope this makes someone happy while the wait to Universal's August release of Double Indemnity continues.

The UK got that and more on a two disc set; Audio commentary by Dr. Drew Casper. The making of Lifeboat. 55 minute talk with Alfred Hitchcock. Stills gallery with an array of original promotional images and newspaper ads.

http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000110208

Our upcoming Cinema Reserve Seven Year Itch sounds unmissible; Three Documentaries - Marilyn Monroe: The Final Days, The Legend of Marilyn Monroe: Narrated by Director John Huston, Backstory: The Seven Year Itch. Deleted Scenes. Movietone News: Sneak Preview. Restoration Comparables. Stills.

Another 2 Disc set (in a tin!)

[Lazario]

I can't really see how they could do much with Mrs Doubtfire... not a 1.5 hour plus "making of" anyway, as the film was pretty "normal" technically.

I was waiting for you to say that. So that I could point out that the following films have garnered 2-disc sets from Fox : Garfield- the Movie, There's Something About Mary, Napoleon Dynamite, Big Trouble in Little China, I Heart Huckabees, and Ferngully the Last Rainforest. So with Fox, 'normal' doesn't mean a thing. Comedy doesn't mean a thing. Success can often be the determining factor. Believe me, if these films can get 2-disc editions, it will be no sweat for Fox to pony one up for Doubtfire.

Sadly, as Fox have often stated themselves, the DVD of RHPS dramatically underperformed to their expectations saleswise.

Then like all other idiotic companies, they take it off the market? That's stupid, you make less money that way. They didn't just lose my $25, they lost my respect. In fact, I'll bet they overcharged for that 2-disc set at every step of the way. They don't even deserve to hold the rights to the film. They hardly have any idea how to market a cult film. If it wasn't for David Fincher's reputation and of course, Brad Pitt's psycho fan club, Fight Club would have failed too as a DVD. God only knows how the original Donnie Darko DVD ever sold. One of the reasons I bought the single-disc was that it was cheap. Lesson number 1, Fox - if it doesn't sell expensive, sell it <i>cheap</i>! That's probably one of the reasons they ended up hooking up with Anchor Bay, they were in awe of the respect a <b>good</b> company gets.

And in some 1-disc news, Fox just gave Alfred Hitchcock's Lifeboat a Special Edition.

The UK got that and more on a two disc set; The making of Lifeboat. 55 minute talk with Alfred Hitchcock.

So these two interview segments are separate? Well, good for U.S. buyers with a multi-region player. But I still haven't seen the movie. I will one day (if the world doesn't end too soon).

[2099net]

I can't really see how they could do much with Mrs Doubtfire... not a 1.5 hour plus "making of" anyway, as the film was pretty "normal" technically.

I was waiting for you to say that. So that I could point out that the following films have garnered 2-disc sets from Fox : Garfield- the Movie, There's Something About Mary, Napoleon Dynamite, Big Trouble in Little China, I Heart Huckabees, and Ferngully the Last Rainforest. So with Fox, 'normal' doesn't mean a thing. Comedy doesn't mean a thing. Success can often be the determining factor. Believe me, if these films can get 2-disc editions, it will be no sweat for Fox to pony one up for Doubtfire.

Well of those, I've only seen the 2 Disc Garfield movie (getting the UK version on it's only release) and Big Trouble in Little China. Garfield is actually quite a good 2nd disc. The supplements are as much about Garfield and his histroy and development than about the film, but there's also one of the most in-depth features on CGI compositing I've ever seen. In the UK at least (which only seems to be missing the music video of this later US release) the second disc is only a DVD5. I'm sure technically everything could fit on one disc (especially as the UK release doesn't have a P&S version of the film). Its been a while since I've seen Big Trouble in Little China, but at the time I seem to remember I was disappointed with the release. Perhaps BTILC didn't need a 2 disc release?

Sadly, as Fox have often stated themselves, the DVD of RHPS dramatically underperformed to their expectations saleswise.

Then like all other idiotic companies, they take it off the market? That's stupid, you make less money that way. They didn't just lose my $25, they lost my respect. In fact, I'll bet they overcharged for that 2-disc set at every step of the way. They don't even deserve to hold the rights to the film. They hardly have any idea how to market a cult film. If it wasn't for David Fincher's reputation and of course, Brad Pitt's psycho fan club, Fight Club would have failed too as a DVD. God only knows how the original Donnie Darko DVD ever sold. One of the reasons I bought the single-disc was that it was cheap. Lesson number 1, Fox - if it doesn't sell expensive, sell it <i>cheap</i>! That's probably one of the reasons they ended up hooking up with Anchor Bay, they were in awe of the respect a <b>good</b> company gets.

But again, the practices you mention only happen in the US. All the 2 disc Fox titles are available here, at a knockdown price too in most cases (plus we got double-disc sets of the new releases from the start). How odd the centre of capatalism should actively seek to stop people spending their money.

The UK got that and more on a two disc set; The making of Lifeboat. 55 minute talk with Alfred Hitchcock.

So these two interview segments are separate? Well, good for U.S. buyers with a multi-region player. But I still haven't seen the movie. I will one day (if the world doesn't end too soon).

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Yes. The 55 Minute Interview seems to be a television inverview from a 60's current affairs type show in America. Its not actually 55 minutes either, being about 50 (I think) but given PAL speed-up and removed advertising, the show must have run for 1 hour. Its not about Lifeboat, but Hitchcock and his work in general. I haven't watched the "Making of..." yet. Perhaps that will elaborate further, but its possible no trailer for Lifeboat was ever made (as due to arguments with Stienbeck who wanted his name taken off the film and poor critical response, the film was pulled down to a very small limited release only - quite a comedown for a film Fox had Oscar® hopes for!)

[Lazario]

Well of those, I've only seen the 2 Disc Garfield movie (getting the UK version on it's only release) and Big Trouble in Little China. Garfield is actually quite a good 2nd disc. The supplements are as much about Garfield and his histroy and development than about the film

Actually, I know. That's one of the things that almost made me want to get it. But I did see a couple cool things about him on Animal Planet and either Discovery or A&E. I'm good enough to go for awhile.

It's been a while since I've seen Big Trouble in Little China, but at the time I seem to remember I was disappointed with the release. Perhaps BTILC didn't need a 2 disc release?

Well, I'll tell you, in the U.S. - it just ended up being yet another 2-disc release from Fox that was taken off the market, with prices for whatever good copies remain driven up to rather insane numbers. I was made to understand it's a very rare item now. That's the reason I'm so pissed about the whole Rocky Horror situation. The movie deserved better than it's single-disc re-release, I want the features on the 2-disc, but that runs upwards into the hundreds for a brand new copy. Even decent used copies you can't get for less than 80-something. At this point, I don't see why the hell Fox didn't lend the rights to Criterion Collection or Anchor Bay to help them out. Criterion would have been an ideal choice, their DVD set of Fox's Naked Lunch is still available. Overall, I'm disgusted with Fox - which is why most of my Fox DVD's were picked out of the Wal-Mart bargain bin. I only own 2 of their Collector's Editions / 2-disc sets anyway due to their stupid business techniques.

But again, the practices you mention only happen in the US.

You'll never hear me say it pays to be an American.

How odd the centre of capitalism should actively seek to stop people spending their money.

You've never seen a Region 2 company pull something from the marketplace? Anyway, I hear Region 2 players have something about them that sort of automatically plays Region 1 encoded discs, so you can play any and every disc basically from the U.S. and possibly from all over the world? When I heard that, I didn't pay it much mind, me being from the U.S. and all. But of course, that makes me feel like we're really being cheated over here.

[2099net]

You've never seen a Region 2 company pull something from the marketplace? Anyway, I hear Region 2 players have something about them that sort of automatically plays Region 1 encoded discs, so you can play any and every disc basically from the U.S. and possibly from all over the world? When I heard that, I didn't pay it much mind, me being from the U.S. and all. But of course, that makes me feel like we're really being cheated over here.

On the whole no. Not really. Disney does it's timed withdrawls, but on the whole not as often as Disney US does (Toy Story for example has been in print constantly since it's release bar a couple of months immediately prior to the 10AE 'upgrade'). Other titles go out of print when rights expire or change hands. But normally things are kept in print for much longer than some US titles seem to be.

Another example:
http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000058654
According to Sendit, the James Bond DVDs have only been withdrawn since mid-Feb 2006 (and of course, the 'upgrades' are coming out in a month or two). They've been out-of-print in the US for God knows how long.

Of course, we have different problems. Munich and Jarhead never got a 2 disc release over here at all - annoying as the commentary on Jarhead even mentions the second disc! We used to get discs with much less content on, but that's not happening so often now.

As for multi-region players, I think everybody should have one. While they may not be so open about it in the US, there's still a lot of players sold over there with handset hacks, and a good proportion will convert PAL to NTSC too. Why limit yourself to one region, even if that region is the biggest?

Oh, if you want some good news, Check your email Laz!