I read where Brother Bear is to be the last 2D animated film by Disney. Ok... does that mean no more hand drawn animated features? If so this is a sad thing.
But what about the upcoming Home on the Range movie?
Brother Bear last 2D film?
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Brother Bear last 2D film?
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I wouldn't believe that they would abandon their original 2D Cell animation. It is what Disney Thrives on. I wouldn't believe that statement. Although their recent 2D films have lacked that true Disney Essence, I don't think they'll give up on it. I see a true Disney Revival on the way.
What they need are classics again using key songs in the films and making memorable characters. What is the one thing many remember about Disney? The Music!!! Is that the case anymore?
Once they notice this they will be on their way. Also, I read that Eisner is going to take a journey back to Princess and Fairy Tale Stories fr future projects.
What they need are classics again using key songs in the films and making memorable characters. What is the one thing many remember about Disney? The Music!!! Is that the case anymore?
Once they notice this they will be on their way. Also, I read that Eisner is going to take a journey back to Princess and Fairy Tale Stories fr future projects.
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Home on the Range will be their last traditional film...for now. A Few Good Ghosts (is it being called) will mix 2D and 3D, and I wonder...if they'll do a mixture for Fantasia 2006 as well.
I thought I read somewhere that the team from Brother Bear, the directors or something, had been hired to do another film, and it might be traditional. But that wouldn't hit theaters for another four or five years, if true. I do not think Disney will abandon 2D. I just think it won't be as prominent for a few years, until it gains its footing again.
And, I personally, have enjoyed a lot of Disney's modern films, from the past few years (Fantasia 2000, The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear). So I don't have a problem, though I recognize they aren't on the level they once were (a decade ago).
3D films, though yes, Pixar has a great team of writers and animators...are also a novelty. It's only been 8 years since Toy Story. Computer animation is flashier, more of a thrill ride, in some ways. (Though I prefer traditional a lot more, and won't ramble about the reasons.) The success of an animated film lies not entirely in the writing or story, nor in the animation, but a good deal of both. The animation is a key, but...I think people will come back to 2D animation. I'm choosing to be optimistic, that this is just a phase. Everything has its ups and downs, and I think Disney's traditional features department will rise again someday...
But 2D is their foundation, yes. They may scale back for a while, but I can't see them abandoning it, as far as features go...
I thought I read somewhere that the team from Brother Bear, the directors or something, had been hired to do another film, and it might be traditional. But that wouldn't hit theaters for another four or five years, if true. I do not think Disney will abandon 2D. I just think it won't be as prominent for a few years, until it gains its footing again.
And, I personally, have enjoyed a lot of Disney's modern films, from the past few years (Fantasia 2000, The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear). So I don't have a problem, though I recognize they aren't on the level they once were (a decade ago).
3D films, though yes, Pixar has a great team of writers and animators...are also a novelty. It's only been 8 years since Toy Story. Computer animation is flashier, more of a thrill ride, in some ways. (Though I prefer traditional a lot more, and won't ramble about the reasons.) The success of an animated film lies not entirely in the writing or story, nor in the animation, but a good deal of both. The animation is a key, but...I think people will come back to 2D animation. I'm choosing to be optimistic, that this is just a phase. Everything has its ups and downs, and I think Disney's traditional features department will rise again someday...
But 2D is their foundation, yes. They may scale back for a while, but I can't see them abandoning it, as far as features go...
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Disney has scheduled HOME ON THE RANGE as the last traditional animation film. That is indeed very sad. But I don't believe that they will quit this style. Maybe we won't have one movie a year, maybe every 2 or 3 years. The key is the story, not the technology. Not every 3D animated film is successful. DINASOUR did suck at the box office. The technique is extraordinary. But the story is very weak.
And about HOME ON THE RANGE, I have seen, like you, guys, the trailer before BEAR and in the NEMO dvd. And I've laughed my head off. It is hilarious. The style is very unique and reminds me of 60s animation, Looney style, and Mr. Magoo lines. And the humor is just able to make my sides sore. Very funny. Also, Alan Menken is behind the music of the film. And trust me, I can't wait. I've missed him in late animated features.
And about HOME ON THE RANGE, I have seen, like you, guys, the trailer before BEAR and in the NEMO dvd. And I've laughed my head off. It is hilarious. The style is very unique and reminds me of 60s animation, Looney style, and Mr. Magoo lines. And the humor is just able to make my sides sore. Very funny. Also, Alan Menken is behind the music of the film. And trust me, I can't wait. I've missed him in late animated features.
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Yeah, unfortunately the box office punished this movie. Abroad was even more of a catastrophy. And it's weird, cos the trailer was outstanding.
I have the book about the making of it. And I believe that soon I'll buy the 2 dvd set. It is such a cute story. But I believe that people are tired of Dinos, after Spielberg gave us his saga. Unfortunately people didn't believe it was an innovative film.
Still, I like it.
I have the book about the making of it. And I believe that soon I'll buy the 2 dvd set. It is such a cute story. But I believe that people are tired of Dinos, after Spielberg gave us his saga. Unfortunately people didn't believe it was an innovative film.
Still, I like it.
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Well, atleast there are those of us who appreciate it.quasi72 wrote:Yeah, unfortunately the box office punished this movie. Abroad was even more of a catastrophy. And it's weird, cos the trailer was outstanding.
I have the book about the making of it. And I believe that soon I'll buy the 2 dvd set. It is such a cute story. But I believe that people are tired of Dinos, after Spielberg gave us his saga. Unfortunately people didn't believe it was an innovative film.
Still, I like it.
It's definitely a great looking film, and I really like James Newton Howard's awesome score.
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I've never seen Dinosaur, admittedly.
Regarding Home on the Range...the style of humor, and even the look, a little bit, reminds me more of The Emperor's New Groove than anything else. And I think The Emperor's New Groove is Disney's funniest film (not the best, but the funniest).
And I love the idea for this...and the trailer on the Nemo DVD, I thought, was even better than the one in theaters, because it gives Judi Dench and Jennifer Tilly a few lines of dialogue...and explains the story better.
Opening in early April, it shouldn't have any tough competition, but we'll see. I think it'll do well...and look forward to it. I really like the animation and humor, and I think the songs will be great, too...
Regarding Home on the Range...the style of humor, and even the look, a little bit, reminds me more of The Emperor's New Groove than anything else. And I think The Emperor's New Groove is Disney's funniest film (not the best, but the funniest).
And I love the idea for this...and the trailer on the Nemo DVD, I thought, was even better than the one in theaters, because it gives Judi Dench and Jennifer Tilly a few lines of dialogue...and explains the story better.
Opening in early April, it shouldn't have any tough competition, but we'll see. I think it'll do well...and look forward to it. I really like the animation and humor, and I think the songs will be great, too...
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Actually, when I've seen the trailer, I thought the same thing: THE INFLUENCE FROM THE EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE. I didn't want to mention it in my former message, since I know that some people in this forum don't like that film, although, I TRULY LOVE IT.
It is extremely funny and innovative. Unfortunately, Disney itself punished it, with a very poor marketing campaign and almost no-merchandise when it was released. I would love to have the book on the making of the film and the book on How to Draw the characters -and yes, I admit that I collect those books, and draw the Disney characters, even if I am 31 years old...-
It is extremely funny and innovative. Unfortunately, Disney itself punished it, with a very poor marketing campaign and almost no-merchandise when it was released. I would love to have the book on the making of the film and the book on How to Draw the characters -and yes, I admit that I collect those books, and draw the Disney characters, even if I am 31 years old...-
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It had a 35 million opening weekend an a domestic total of (if I remember correctly) 145 million. Worldwide it made about 350 millionMr. Pumpkinhead wrote:Wowsers... I didn't know Dinosaur did poorly at the box office. I usually know things like this.
I remember seeing it on opening day actually. You don't hear much about this one anymore but I really do like it alot. I've got the 2 Disc set too.
Some consider this a flop... but I thinl underperformed is a better word
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