DL-Craze wrote:The Pluto Volume will only have 22 cartoons:
Did you take into account that the first Pluto volume included quite a few MM shorts with Pluto appearances? So a few more could be added to volume two as well, I'm sure.
As for the Silly Symphonies volume, 38 would complete the collection, but I'd like to see the handful of shorts "hidden away" on volume 1 included as well.
DL-Craze wrote:As for the rest of the animated shorts not released, I suspect they will probably make a Disney Rarities Volume 2 and contain these animated shorts: Disney Rarities Volume 2: 1920-1960's
I'd say some of these selections would be open for discussion, but I basically agree. The two DD volumes and this one should complete the "classic theatrical animated shorts".
DL-Craze wrote:As for the rest of the animated shorts not released, I suspect they will probably make a Disney Rarities Volume 2 and contain these animated shorts: Disney Rarities Volume 2: 1920-1960's
I would bet that you are probably right, but there are shorts made after the 1960's (eg John Henry, Destino, etc.) that could find a home there as well.
I was really hoping that a Donald set would be in the next wave. Donald will take two more sets, and we are already done with Mickey and Goofy. I'm really looking forward to the 50's Donald cartoons, and I guess I'll have to wait THREE more releases to get those. To me it seems like the timing would be better to put Donald on this than Pluto; that would leave one Donald and one Pluto and one (or two) "assorted rarities."
Nothing against Pluto, I just want those Donald and Humphrey cartoons.
Wondering about Your Host, Walt Disney Treasure... I seem to recall a World of Disney special centered around the '64 World's Fair. What about that one for inclusion?
MPeriolat wrote:Wondering about Your Host, Walt Disney Treasure... I seem to recall a World of Disney special centered around the '64 World's Fair. What about that one for inclusion?
Yes, "Disneyland Goes To The World's Fair", first shown on TV 5/17/1964, would be an excellent show for the Your Host, Walt Disney Treasure set. This is one of my favorite programs in which the creativity of the Imagineers is showcased. In addition to a behind-the-scenes look at the attractions Disney developed for the 1964-1965 New York World's Fair, there is a wonderful section on the history of world fairs. An animated history of the origin of fairs is also fun.
The inclusion of the show highlighting the '64-65 World's Fair would make sense, as Bill Cotter co-wrote a book about the Fair. The other author, Bill Young, has a site about the venue: http://www.nywf64.com
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Don't tempt him. I mean, it's not like any of Luke's "staff" get paid for reviewing DVDs in the first place (well, at least I don't, anyway...). Why would we pay for writing the reviews? Last time I checked it usually works the other way around.
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Escapay wrote:Hehehe. You should auction DVD reviews to your staff! It would give them more incentive to write them, and you'll earn some money on the side!
Don't tempt him.
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creid wrote:I made several posts of my complaints of Universal's releases of classic Hollywood in which there is no effort to improve the picture quality. (ie. Dracula, Marx Brothers and latest one was Mae West.) We are not talking about the minor blemishes on Treasures Donald Duck II, I mean Universal DVDs are only modest improvements over most bargain bin $1 at Wal Mart releases. Quite honestly, Universal simply releases videotape quality on DVD.
I don't know how they did with the Marx Bros. set, but I thought they did a pretty good job on the 6 classic "Legacy Series" horror titles.
C3PO wrote:While I don't know what Goofy cartoons appeared on Mouse Works, I'm familiar with the Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Minnie, Daisy and Pluto cartoons on House of Mouse. I don't consider these worthy of a Treasure release. Some of them seemed to be modernized versions of the classic shorts, too.
Still, for the sake of completion, it might be allright to have the Mouse Works/House of Mouse shorts included on the last 1 or 2 Treasures (depending on how many there actually are) in the series.
TM2-Megatron wrote:Still, for the sake of completion, it might be allright to have the Mouse Works/House of Mouse shorts included on the last 1 or 2 Treasures (depending on how many there actually are) in the series.
Maybe they'll have separate Treasure volumes just for those cartoons or some sort of regular release. All you need is the cartoons not the whole show.
jebsdad wrote: Of course, Walt appeared throughout the show in many of the Disneyland themed shows. It would be nice to have at least one Disneyland theme show in the batch. I would vote for Disneyland Around The Seasons (12/18/66) - Walt's last Disneyland theme show and one rarely seen by most Disney fans.
Totally agree with this choice Jebsdad.... I would LOVE for this one to be on the DVD.
Bill - Are you still reading our posts ?.. Any possibility of the above show and any updated news on a Summer 2006 release ?
Pluto Volume 2 - I'm sure the cartoons have already been selected, but at only 22 cartoons, this Treasure would have been an excellent chance to include some of the "Mousecellaneous" cartoons (Minnie, Figaro, Chip & Dale) since there should be room. It is likely that we'll get some more extras of excerpts from TV shows instead.
Silly Symphonies - I would not be surprised to see some of the more "sensitive" Silly Symphonies (like Hell's Bells) be included as Easter Eggs. Just a thought - maybe they'll be in an "Inside The Vault" section like some of the On The Front Lines shorts were.
Your Host, Walt Disney - I'm hoping this is only Volume One of several future volumes. There are too many OUTSTANDING TV shows shown 1954-1967 with Walt as the host for just one set. In this set, I would love to have both "Disneyland Goes To The World's Fair" and "Disneyland Around The Seasons". But I'm guessing there will only be one Disneyland park themed TV show on the set. But I would love at least these two. Since this set was announced, I have been watching those old 1950s/1960s shows that I still have on VHS and they are still outstanding entertainment. Generally, those shows don't come across as "out of date" like many other shows of that TV time era.
In general, the Walt Disney Treasures sets have not included much "new video" for me ... they have generally "just" replaced VHS video I had with DVD picture and sound. But that is a big JUST - that's what I want from the Treasures - I want these cartoons and TV shows on DVD and am thankful that usually the Treasures have nicer quality than what I have on VHS.
So Wave 6 is one of my favorite Treasures waves - I want the rest of the Pluto and Silly Symphony cartoons on DVD. I want that excellent Hardy Boys serial on DVD. I want as many of the Disney TV shows on DVD as possible.
I would love for Wave 6 to be released earlier than the usual December releases, but I am guessing December 5, 2006 will be the release date. I sure don't want to wait that long but I've waited that long for most of the Treasures.
jebsdad wrote:More thoughts on the Wave 6 Treasures.
Pluto Volume 2 - I'm sure the cartoons have already been selected, but at only 22 cartoons, this Treasure would have been an excellent chance to include some of the "Mousecellaneous" cartoons (Minnie, Figaro, Chip & Dale) since there should be room.
Why only 22? The first volume included quite a few MM shorts with Pluto appearances, which seemingly is what necessitated a split into two volumes in the first place. So I'd expect some MM shorts this time as well.
What "Minnie" shorts would we be talking about here? I don't quite understand...
Figaro wouldn't seem entirely unlikely, though - I think Pluto appears in at least one of them.
jebsdad wrote:More thoughts on the Wave 6 Treasures.
Pluto Volume 2 - I'm sure the cartoons have already been selected, but at only 22 cartoons, this Treasure would have been an excellent chance to include some of the "Mousecellaneous" cartoons (Minnie, Figaro, Chip & Dale) since there should be room.
Why only 22? The first volume included quite a few MM shorts with Pluto appearances, which seemingly is what necessitated a split into two volumes in the first place. So I'd expect some MM shorts this time as well.
What "Minnie" shorts would we be talking about here? I don't quite understand...
Figaro wouldn't seem entirely unlikely, though - I think Pluto appears in at least one of them.
My thinking on only 22 Pluto shorts is that I consider the MM shorts with Pluto appearances in the first volume to be due to showing early Pluto appearances before Pluto officially had his own cartoons. In my opinion, there is no need for MM shorts in the second volume since the Pluto cartoons are already established. I might be wrong, but that is my reasoning.
Sorry about the "Minnie" confusion ... I was thinking of the cartoon that Minnie shared with Figaro, "Bath Day".
Although I don't expect it to appear on the Pluto set, it would be fun if the cartoon "Pluto And The Baby" could be included on the set. This cartoon was a severely edited "Mickey Plays Papa" for the Mickey Mouse Club show in which all appearances of Mickey were edited out - leaving the baby to just interact with Pluto. The 5 minutes edited out of the original cartoon changed Pluto And The Baby into an totally different cartoon. But, although I reminded Leonard Maltin about this edited version, I don't expect it on the Pluto set, especially since it is only 3 1/2 minutes long. But it is still a fun, odd, unusual Disney item and I would love to see it on the Treasures sets somehow.
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DDMAN26 wrote:I'm very intriigued by this Your Host Walt Disney set. Any clue as to what this could be?
The information this website has on the Walt Disney Treasures Wave 6 (top right of the web home page) is all the information that has been released so far. A few earlier posts in this thread has my guesses for some possible shows - but I'm sure it will be a few months before we officially know. Someone working on the Treasures might release some information on show titles before the official news. Walt Disney hosted opening and closing sequences of most of the Disney anthology TV shows of 1954-1967, but this Treasure set is supposed to include shows in which Walt appeared throughout the show. I'm guessing there will be about 6 total TV shows included.
jebsdad wrote:My thinking on only 22 Pluto shorts is that I consider the MM shorts with Pluto appearances in the first volume to be due to showing early Pluto appearances before Pluto officially had his own cartoons. In my opinion, there is no need for MM shorts in the second volume since the Pluto cartoons are already established. I might be wrong, but that is my reasoning.
Your reasoning seems to be quite... reasonable... in itself.
But 22 isn't much for a 2-disc set - it could almost do with a single disc...
IMO, there was no actual need to include those MM shorts in the first volume - except to thoroughly justify two volumes. In that light I'd find it logical to include a handful of MM shorts with Pluto appearances this time as well.
We're still working away on the titles for "Your Host, Walt Disney". Besides TV shows, I am pushing to get some of the stuff that Walt did for clients, internal presentations, charities, etc. In other words, hopefully we can get some stuff that wasn't ever aired on free TV or The Disney Channel. I have some copies of things that I have screened at conventions and they have gone over well, so hopefully we can get clearance from Legal to go with some of that stuff.
Right now I think 4 of the tv shows are ok to go and we are working to confirm the rest of the material. I did some more write-ups for it last week and am hoping to get a response this week. More as I get it.
bcotter wrote:We're still working away on the titles for "Your Host, Walt Disney". Besides TV shows, I am pushing to get some of the stuff that Walt did for clients, internal presentations, charities, etc. In other words, hopefully we can get some stuff that wasn't ever aired on free TV or The Disney Channel. I have some copies of things that I have screened at conventions and they have gone over well, so hopefully we can get clearance from Legal to go with some of that stuff.
Right now I think 4 of the tv shows are ok to go and we are working to confirm the rest of the material. I did some more write-ups for it last week and am hoping to get a response this week. More as I get it.
Bill
Wow that sounds awesome Bill. I would love to see that internal stuff (think Pixar's fun update on the progress of A Bug's Life). This is sounding great. Some of my favorite Treasures are those that focus more on Walt (Disneyland USA, Tomorrowland, Behind the Scenes) and rely heavily on the Disneyland TV show. This is a set I am really looking forward to. Anything we can get that focuses on the man 40 years removed from us will eat up.
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bcotter wrote:We're still working away on the titles for "Your Host, Walt Disney". Besides TV shows, I am pushing to get some of the stuff that Walt did for clients, internal presentations, charities, etc. In other words, hopefully we can get some stuff that wasn't ever aired on free TV or The Disney Channel. I have some copies of things that I have screened at conventions and they have gone over well, so hopefully we can get clearance from Legal to go with some of that stuff.
Right now I think 4 of the tv shows are ok to go and we are working to confirm the rest of the material. I did some more write-ups for it last week and am hoping to get a response this week. More as I get it.
Bill
I eagerly await every word of yours !....
Any further comments on a Summer 2006 release and if any of the 4 tv shows that are presently okay are based on Disneyland itself ?
