I wouldn't buy Dumbo if I were you...

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:05 pm

MICKEYMOUSE wrote:I still have the chance of picking up the 2 disc that is out now, but I am not. I heard it's a good DVD, I wouldn't care if Disney decided to take those two disc and just re-package it!!!

P.S. Disney don't forget to add a SLIPCOVER to this DVD!!

Dumbo's only release on DVD has always been a single-disc, not a two-disc.

P.S. Let's NOT add a slipcover and give a tree out there the gift of life!

Anyways, I'm on Cloud Nine right now over this news. But if it turns out to be a really stupid rehash of the single-disc with different cover art (and that ALL IMPORTANT SLIPCOVER

), then I'll pass unless it boasts better picture.

Escapay

MICKEYMOUSE · Post by **MICKEYMOUSE** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:34 pm

Well I'll be damed...I never knew that the 1st one was a one discer!! THANKS FOR THAT INFO. Whatever it is one disc or two I will be at the store the day it comes out!

BrandonH · Post by **BrandonH** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:27 pm

I knew that a Special Edition of Dumbo was coming, so I have held off on buying the 60th Anniversary Edition so far. If the new version is faulty in some way, however, the Best Buy near me is still selling the 60th Anniversary Edition. One way or another, I will be getting Dumbo this year!

marlan · Post by **marlan** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:32 am

MickeyMousePal wrote:I really don't think Dumbo needs a upgrade and it will probably be a 1-disc just like last year Tarzan and TENG.

I do think that a new transfer should be made. As I wrote earlier on "International DVD" forum, the current transfer is framed too tightly. Here's one screenshot from the Scandinavian (R2) release:

I saw the movie at the Finnish Film Archive on January 1st this year, and the framing was considerably different: you could see the feet of the pink elephants in this shot. Apparently they are marching inside of a bubble but I wasn't able to see it properly even in the cinema screening. Obviously this movie demands quite a lot from the projectionist

Anyway, the unsuitable framing (zooming in) often distorts the pictorial compositions of the filmmakers. The current release of Fantasia suffers from the same problem, and I decided not to own that release at all after having borrowed it from the library and seen it.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:50 pm

Overscan (on most TV sets) could be the reason, you know.

marlan · Post by **marlan** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:59 am

Lars Vermundsberget wrote:Overscan (on most TV sets) could be the reason, you know.

Overscan has nothing to do with this screen capture. The image is the "raw" data from the DVD's digital stream, a complete PAL frame as it is — not a photograph.

Of course, the overscan crops even more from the image.

MICKEYMOUSE · Post by **MICKEYMOUSE** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:33 pm

Dumbo SE is set for June 13th 2006!!

Tarzan. · Post by **Tarzan.** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:53 pm

If Dumbo will be the summer release I guess that The Hunchback of Notre Dame will be the release for october (a few days after TLM)

deathie mouse · Post by **deathie mouse** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:48 pm

About the framing, i really don't know why so many transfers don't use the correct 100% projection aperture of a film. For an Acdemy movie it should be as easy as aligning the <a href="http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/ ... ">RP-40</a>* test film so that the DVD 480 x 720 (or in PAL 576 x 720) frame corresponds to the Academy 1.375 0.600" x 0.825" lines.

Must be they're zooming in to get more clarity compensating for the relatively low resolution of DVD against film .

Now as always, my question about Dumbo: Will it include all the crows?

*if you wanna see a reeeally high res image of the RP-40 click <a href="http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user/jhawk/ ... g">here</a> but i warn you.
It's so biig -Ren's Swedish cousin

Little Mermaid · Post by **Little Mermaid** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:34 am

I just saw that Dumbo is coming out on a Special Edition DVD soon. I loved that movie.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:32 am

deathie mouse wrote:Now as always, my question about Dumbo: Will it include all the crows?

Yes but they will be digitally repainted brown and given upper class accents and be called 'owls' rather than 'crows'! I'm excited, aren't you?!

singerguy04 · Post by **singerguy04** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:35 am

i get a little more excited about this release every day. it's one of my favorites, and i've been holding out on buying it for years because i borrowed the 60th anniversary edition from a friend and hated the transfer. Disney has to have done a better job on this dvd, or else there would be no point in releasing it again! i also think that it'll be 2-discs. It's one a walt's original creations, it has a very large fan base, and disney could probably dig up a lot of info from the vault about the movie for some really cool special features!

deathie mouse · Post by **deathie mouse** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:41 am

With a Leonard Maltin introduction to boot, extending the running time to 90m!

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:43 am

It'll probably be a 'special edition' in the same way that Pocahontas and Beauty and the Beast were, the completed footage from Dumbo II will be incorporated into the film to give it a longer run time

mikemgmve · Post by **mikemgmve** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:30 am

Looks like I'll have to double dip, as long as it's an improvement on the 60th.

I only recently got it too, as I joined the DMC and got it for about $6 (i didn't want to pay $25 for it in stores.)

hostile7teen · Post by **hostile7teen** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:34 pm

What are your thoughts?

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:24 pm

hostile7teen wrote:What are your thoughts?

I'm wondering what your thoughts are.

mikemgmve · Post by **mikemgmve** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:49 pm

I think it'll easily exceed it. I just recently picked it up (cheaply through a deal in the DMC), and was surprised at frankly, what a piece of crap it was. The menu's were awful, and took forever. You can tell completely that this was made years ago. The transfer itself is not all that pretty. The making of isn't all that bad tho, and I imagine it'll probably be ported over. Hopefully a remastered transfer (which according to the dvd insider with LATT, is said to have been done), and maybe a few special new features will make it worth it.

It's a good film.

singerguy04 · Post by **singerguy04** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:58 pm

i agree that the 60th anniversary edition was a piece of crap. i borrowed it from a friend last year, to see if it was worth buying, and i couldn't have been more dissapointed. it really needs a better transfer. as long as it looks better, which i can't imagine it looking much worse and still be considered worth releasing then i think this release will be a trillion times better than the 60th anniversary edition.

jediliz · Post by **jediliz** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:35 pm

I hope the special editon is better. I made myself not buy the 60th anniversary edition DVD......mostly cause of the cost...but if this SE is really going to be released, I hope it has a lot of special features. At least a few BtS stuff and maybe a game or two. (BtS is Behind the Scenes)

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