Treasures Series - - Too late to Collect?

[Tolhurst]

25 years? the shorts will probably be relreleased, as well as the Davy Crockett series, the disneyland shows are more of the gamble, in my opinion. Of course, they will all be available seperatly for download eventually anyways!

[consultant]

I'm still trying to figure all this out.

So there is only one treasure box set which is Wave 1 & 2 (no tins) - A lot of people who bought Wave 1 & 2 individually must have been ticked when those treasure box sets started showing up in Costco?

I calculate about $850-$900 to collect all the Waves including TINS in brand new, mint A1 condition, most if not all sealed.

It appears really there is only a big acquisition cost difference between Tin and Non-Tin with Wave 1 & 2 (I know this has been said before) or about $500-$550 with tins versus you can get the box set for around $200. So essentially it looks like it only costs about $300-$350 more to get the entire collection with tins.

Now here's the thing I'm unclear on and can find no information to clarify on this site, Amazon, or E-bay. Do all of Waves 3, 4, and 5 come both with or without Tins? Amazon doesn't specify the packaging type on the Wave 4 & 5 products they have for sale new.

I notice on this site there are production numbers for Waves 3 & 4 but not 5? Are all the tins numbered and do they all come with COAs?

Why do you see very little if any Wave 5 or Wave 4 on Ebay - Is it because Disney is watching with a hawk's eye and having Ebay remove listings for current product?

Even though it only an extra $350 or so to get all the tins, it seems if I'm going to break the seals anyway, maybe I'm better off just getting the Treasure Box for $200 and then another $200 for Wave 4 & 5 - I guess the collection with tins is really closer to $500 more expensive if you consider you can get the box set for Wave 1 & 2 for about $200. But then the collector side of me says 20 years from now everyone is going to be going gaga over the rare tins, UNLESS Disney re-releases a limited release Treasures with special packaging and serial numbers on a new format. The thing is these programs are not as high-res/quality as the movies so a more high def format is really not going to make much difference. It just seems people always kick themselves down the road for not buying the more limited edition version things, especially considering they could afford it at the time.

Help! Advice needed!

[consultant]

I forgot to ask one other important question and maybe I missed the answer somewhere on here (forgive me if I did.) What are the chances of another box set with Waves 3 & 4? I guess with any annoucement you can't assume anything and risk paying more for Wave 3, 4, and 5 the later you wait for the box set. Plus it looks like when the box set came out, it really wasn't a discount from having bought the two waves individually when they first came out?

Analysis Paralysis - I know.

[TM2-Megatron]

I'm still trying to figure all this out.

So there is only one treasure box set which is Wave 1 & 2 (no tins) - A lot of people who bought Wave 1 & 2 individually must have been ticked when those treasure box sets started showing up in Costco?

I guess it depends, but even after the box set was released there was still an advantage to having purchased Waves 1 & 2 in tins. The Treasures in the Costco box set weren't individually numbered (hence, little collector's value), and they don't come with the lithographs.

I only started collecting the Treasures a few months after Wave 3 was released, but I decided to go for Waves 1 and 2 in Tins as opposed to the Costco box set (plus, I didn't want quite all of them anyway). I was lucky enough to find all of Wave 2 in stores around Toronto at that time (though I'm pretty sure the ones I got were the last of them, as they were in relatively small, independent places. The 2 Treasures from Wave 1 that I wanted, I purchased off eBay (Silly Symphonies and Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol. 1). Silly Symphonies I got for a pretty good price, only about $15 over its original MSRP. Mickey Mouse in Living Color, probably the hardest Treasure to find, I had to pay about $75 for. All in all, though, I didn't pay that much since the only ones I had to get outside retail were the two from Wave 1.

Now here's the thing I'm unclear on and can find no information to clarify on this site, Amazon, or E-bay. Do all of Waves 3, 4, and 5 come both with or without Tins? Amazon doesn't specify the packaging type on the Wave 4 & 5 products they have for sale new.

Only Waves 1 and 2 were available without tins. Any new/sealed Treasure from Waves 3-5 should have a tin.

I notice on this site there are production numbers for Waves 3 & 4 but not 5? Are all the tins numbered and do they all come with COAs?

There are production numbers for Wave 5 if you check the UltimateDisney page for the Treasures. All four Wave 5 titles had 125,000 tins produced. Only the first 2 Waves had numbered Tins, though; starting in Wave 3 the Treasures came with COA's instead (which I prefer, personally).

Why do you see very little if any Wave 5 or Wave 4 on Ebay - Is it because Disney is watching with a hawk's eye and having Ebay remove listings for current product?

I'd imagine you can get Wave 4 and 5 off eBay; Disney certainly has no right to stop people selling them. I'd imagine they aren't as numerous there yet because they're still rather easy for people to find in local stores; so there's little point in trying to sell them on eBay until they become a bit rarer in the retail arena.

[Douglas Fir]

I can't afford to buy Mickey in Living Color vol 1 for $80 but find that it would be worth it to "buy it now" for $45 without the tin. But if I found an incredible deal on the DVD set w/ the tin, then I'd go for that.

I have a little trick that helps me feel okay about spending more than I would like on a particular item. When I first start collecting the treasures I used eBay and Amazon to pick up the first two waves I had missed - because I was buying seven different releases I kept track of how much I spent in total and then worked out the average - so even though I paid more than I would have liked for Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol. 1 and The Complete Goofy the average price I paid I was happy with... as the waves have continued my average price paid is now below the RRP (18 releases in total - 11 of which I bought as they were released below the RRP).

I use that little trick quite often and it helps me feel more justified spending a lot of money on a particular item!

[mcduck]

I have been posting this info in other topic but it may be helpful for some readers who want to buy the treasures just for the merely content, and are not necessarily a collectors in the material matters,
I was looking for the early treasure but the prices are for the real collector people, and I was always trying to find a series of old cartoons and the treasures are the ones that match the criteria, unfortunately there are not a non collectible version of them here, but I new about the re-releases in other countries that wold be good to have, the UK have now some of them but I am concern about US custom an since amazon wash their hand on this matter... plus the PAL and the region can be a problem, them I saw the releases in Mexico, it seams like they have just two titles per wave and the first wave was on December 2004, so there still many available, they are MM in living color and Silly S. They just release this year Chronological DD and MM in living color II, that open the possibilities I guess of the release of Goofy and MM in B/W, but who knows, this dvds are NTSC and regions 1 and 4, same content than the originals, with English, Spanish, Portuguese language and S and P subtitles, my sister got them for me last week, wold see if they are good for the 16 dollars that I have to pay for each one...

Would be nice from Buena Vista to make a non collectible copies of the treasures, but I guess is not that profitable like the Five-six cartoons for 20 bucks that they sell like timeless tales or the classic cartoons staring... ho well that is the way that it is.

[mcduck]

I have been posting this info in other topic but it may be helpful for some readers who want to buy the treasures just for the merely content, and are not necessarily a collectors in the material matters,
I was looking for the early treasure but the prices are for the real collector people, and I was always trying to find a series of old cartoons and the treasures are the ones that match the criteria, unfortunately there are not a non collectible version of them here, but I new about the re-releases in other countries that wold be good to have, the UK have now some of them but I am concern about US custom an since amazon wash their hand on this matter... plus the PAL and the region can be a problem, them I saw the releases in Mexico, it seams like they have just two titles per wave and the first wave was on December 2004, so there still many available, they are MM in living color and Silly S. They just release this year Chronological DD and MM in living color II, that open the possibilities I guess of the release of Goofy and MM in B/W, but who knows, this dvds are NTSC and regions 1 and 4, same content than the originals, with English, Spanish, Portuguese language and S and P subtitles, my sister got them for me last week, wold see if they are good for the 16 dollars that I have to pay for each one...

Would be nice from Buena Vista to make a non collectible copies of the treasures, but I guess is not that profitable like the Five-six cartoons for 20 bucks that they sell like timeless tales or the classic cartoons staring... ho well that is the way that it is.

UPDATE
I finally watched my “mexican treasures”:
The bad thing is they are not collectible editions at all, excluding the tin boxes they still a collectible items in their country of origin, actually the first wave can be considered OOP, they have the same quality although they have slightly different presentation in the box and in the cds...
The good thing they are entirely the same in content even the easter eggs still there, same menus same extras... 15 dollars each even sealed whit a nice hologram from Buena Vista was a great deal for me, hope the next mexican wave would bring good old US OOP treasures.

[jamminjake245]

Wow, this thread is ANCIENT!!

[TM2-Megatron]

Wow, this thread is ANCIENT!!

Yeah, no kidding. Since it's been revived anyway, though, what did you decide to do? And did you end up getting all the Treasures?

[Lars Vermundsberget]

In a certain way, the "collecting game" is more rewarding if one meets some "resistance" along the way. I'm still not really recommending that one should deliberately be late to the game, though...

[PatrickvD]

I started collecting when wave 3 came out. I got the firt two waves in that costco set. Pretty happy with all dvd's in this series. Hope they keep up. I'm particularly looking forward to the next Donald set. Those are simply the best.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Let's hope they "keep up" the quality levels of the years up until 2004 - there was a lot of complaints about the pq of the 2005 cartoons volumes, although I can easily live with them myself...

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Is it too late to collect these? I don't have any of them, but I am really interested in buying these. It's probably too late, but I'll ask anyway.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

That depends on what you think about "too late". None of these sets are really "rare" (in my understanding of the word) and can be found if you try, although you will have to pay considerably more than the original price for some of them. Hypothetically, I can tell that I would have paid the price without hesitating if I were late to the game and as interested as I am. On the other hand, since I am as interested as I am, I was NOT late to the game...

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Are the sets more valuable if they are in tins, or not? And, when did the first wave of treasures come out?

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Most copies of the Treasures (in R1, at least) had tins. Only relatively few copies and only of the first two "waves" were released in a set without tins later. I cannot tell whether the tins are valuable, but if they are, that wouldn't be because of their relative rarity...

The first WDTs came in 2001. There's been a "wave" of three or four sets every year.

[MichaeLeah]

Sequel,

Come on man, all these questions have been answered. Go to the top of your page and click on Walt Disney Treasures. This website isn't "The Ultimate Guide to Disney DVD" because of the forum--that description most appropriately applies to the rest of this website. Look around and figure out some answers for yourself.

[Pluto Region1]

Sequel, you can do it. The guy who was posting saying $900 to collect them, I think that is a bit crazy.

I started last year, remember? When I first joined UD forums was because I was interested in collecting the Treasure series. The MOST I have paid for any of them was $50 to a second-hand seller for a new sealed copy of Behind the Scenes at WD Studios, but all the others I paid MSRP.... but yeah, I mean, just pace yourself with what you have to spend.

As of now, I have all of Waves 4 and 5. I am missing 1 of the Wave 3 (MM Color V2) as I just got Chron Don V1 last week at Best Buy for $25! Of course I need most of Wave 1 and 2 (I have 1 each from those 2 waves) but I am not sweating it - there will always be someone somewhere I figure in the next year or two who will be willing to sell them (be it here, Ebay, Amazon, etc). yeah, these earlier ones will be more expensive, but you don't have to collect all at once.

Also, think about putting a couple of those more harder to find expensive ones on your Xmas or birthday request list.

[JamesDFarrow]

Well I, for one, am not going to pay ridiculous e-bay prices on these and will just wait. I can't see Disney, once these "Treasures" are all released, just dropping it and saying they won't be put out again.

I can see them putting out "Collector's Sets" or whatever you want to call them, of say, Mickey, Donald, Pluto, and Goofy in one big set. That sort of thing. There is no way they are just going to drop this cash cow.

James

[jlppr]

well i wish you good luck. i started collecting them in wave 4. i had never heard of them before. i had to search hard for the earlier waves. but eventually didney dvd club offered them again and i was able to buy them in the regular prices. except for silly symphonies which i paid $42 for and the complete goofy which i paid $70 for it. both through ebay. they will be expensive. the only ones i found cheap on ebay were on the front lines and behind the scenes of the walt disney studios.

but then again i only collect the ones that contain animation.


plus my collection are w/ the tins, which makes them more expensive. but it's a must for me. now i stay on top of them and buy them on the first day of release. that is what i did w/ wave 5 and will be doing for 6