Walt Disney Treasures Wave 5 DVDs Press Release

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I searched the site, but didn't notice any comments on any Easter Eggs on this Wave 5. I checked the discs for any possible Easter Eggs, but didn't notice any.

Has anyone noticed any Easter Eggs? Is this something Disney (and other studios) are no longer doing on their DVDs?

...which is absolutely preferable in my opinion. No reason why material on the DVD shouldn't be readily available.

[jebsdad]

...which is absolutely preferable in my opinion. No reason why material on the DVD shouldn't be readily available.

I totally agree - I thoroughly dislike the Easter Egg concept. I want all the material listed clearly on the menu pages. However, due to past Easter Eggs, I always check the discs just in case there are some.

[bmadigan]

My thought on Easter Eggs is they are fine, so long as they truly are extras that were not advertised as being on the disc.

[dvdjunkie]

I disagree totally on the Easter Eggs ideas. I love Easter Eggs, they give you something to look for and that is why I am proud to be one of the moderators for the DVD Easter Eggs dot com website.

True there are no Easter Eggs on this Wave 5 set, but there were some on the previous four waves. We accept contributions of Easter Eggs from members and non-members alike. After they are checked out, we post them and everyone else is welcome to visit and check them out.

Almost all of the recent Disney movies, and Disney/Pixar films, have Easter Eggs on them. The adventure of finding them is fun and sometimes you are rewarded with all sorts of goodies.

To say that you would rather have everything on the menu, shows your lack of adventure in enjoying a DVD. It is something that adds to your watching experience, when you find an Easter Egg, such as the one on "The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad" DVD. Lots of people don't understand that there is an extra Disney short "The Little Blue Coupe" that is available with a little adventure of searching.

That what Bonus Features are all about. The 'bonus' is whether or not you can find the Easter Eggs that may or may not be on the disc.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

To say that you would rather have everything on the menu, shows your lack of adventure in enjoying a DVD. It is something that adds to your watching experience, when you find an Easter Egg, such as the one on "The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad" DVD. Lots of people don't understand that there is an extra Disney short "The Little Blue Coupe" that is available with a little adventure of searching.

Even more people would understand that "The Little Blue Coupe" is there if it were listed on the menu.

Seriously, though, there's no harm in easter eggs as long as substantial material isn't hidden that way.

But, as for "adventure", I'd say a game is a game, a DVD is a DVD.

[dvdjunkie]

Lars, lighten up. Not all adventures are games. DVD Easter Eggs are not games. They are hidden treasures and are there as an added bonus for the buyer who seeks a little something extra. Don't be so lazy, and understand that watching a movie on DVD is supposed to be fun. You probably have more movies with Easter Eggs on them than you realize and it would be a true 'video adventure' to find those eggs and see what you have been missing. Sometimes there is subtantial material - sometimes there is only DVD credits, but mostly there is always something unusual that is to be found in the Easter Egg.

[Pasta67]

I somewhat agree with Lars on this. I LOVE easter eggs, just as long as nothing that has to do with the making of the movie is hidden. If the easter egg is a commercial, blooper reel, or anything like that, it's always welcome to me.

The only problem I have with easter eggs is that they make me paranoid. No matter how much I look on the DVD, I always think there are more easter eggs hiding. I usually end up checking every menu about three times just to make sure there's nothing left to be found, and even then, I'm still not sure.

It's enough to drive a man crazy, I say!

[Pluto Region1]

We don't know anything about the condition of the original negatives. Perhaps they've deteriorated so much since the old scan, that a new scan wouldn't improve anything without some lengthy and costly restoration work.

You might argue that that restoration work is just what the doctor ordered. I agree. But then we're talking budgets and time frames for the Treasures...

I think at this point that this is the general consensus, that it was either a money issue or time issue or the source materials were too far gone to be properly restored.

[Alan]

What do you people do with the blue card on the back of the treasure that used to be attached to the tin in earlier waves? I would like to attach it to my treasure.

[TM2-Megatron]

What do you people do with the blue card on the back of the treasure that used to be attached to the tin in earlier waves? I would like to attach it to my treasure.

My DVDs are on a bookshelf-type shelves from IKEA, so the tins don't fit on it. I leave them in a drawer (with a few other box-set cardboard cases), with the blue card inside its tin.

Fortunately, though, there were no stickers on my tins at all (they were all on the shrink-wrap), so I haven't had the residue problems some others here have.

[STASHONE]

I think at this point that this is the general consensus, that it was either a money issue or time issue or the source materials were too far gone to be properly restored.

Disney does not let their source material get "too far gone"... ever.

They have the most comprehensive and extensive film preservation archives in the industry.

Also, common sense would suggest that as the age of the source material progresses, so too would the quality. The condition of prints taken from the cartoons released lat year, are obviously not going to look substantially better than those most recent.

Do DVD's from the 80s and 90s generally tend to sport cleaner and sharper transfers than films that were just released to theaters?

This is not such a mind boggling puzzle, it's quite obvious what factors led to these issues. Leonard Maltin confirmed it himself in his many email responses citing Disney's quality control.

[Pluto Region1]

Disney does not let their source material get "too far gone"... ever.

They have the most comprehensive and extensive film preservation archives in the industry. ..... This is not such a mind boggling puzzle, it's quite obvious what factors led to these issues. Leonard Maltin confirmed it himself in his many email responses citing Disney's quality control.

Yes, Disney has discussed learning the latest restoration techniques from the Getty Museum; I mentioned this several times in this thread where I discussed them finding cartoon cells hidden in ice cream containers. If they never let their films deteriorate, I guess we can eliminate that possibility. I believe I miss-spoke; the other theory was that they used bad source materials.

I am a bit forum challenged, I admit, but my reading of Maltin's email to TM2-Megatron does not confirm anything. If you have new information (a new email that I missed from Maltin?) or I have missed "the obvious," please share it so we can put an end to this thread.

[Pluto Region1]

My DVDs are on a bookshelf-type shelves from IKEA, so the tins don't fit on it. I leave them in a drawer (with a few other box-set cardboard cases), with the blue card inside its tin.

Ah, that is so funny TM2, I just spent like 2 days at Ikea looking at all their possible DVD display gizmos and even considered using baskets they sell there- nothing will fit the Disney tins! EVerything they make to hold a DVD will only fit standard cases - as you know, the tins are 8" by 6" and that is just too big for the Ikea products.

Right now half of them are in cardboard box they arrived in from Amazon and the other half are actually in a Treasure chest that I have here - they happen to fit perfectly in but the chest is full! It is less than 1 foot long so I knew that was only a temporary solution. I would love to display my tins but cannot find a suitable table-top wooden box or treasure chest that will work! Sad, very sad!

[TM2-Megatron]

My DVDs are on a bookshelf-type shelves from IKEA, so the tins don't fit on it. I leave them in a drawer (with a few other box-set cardboard cases), with the blue card inside its tin.

Ah, that is so funny TM2, I just spent like 2 days at Ikea looking at all their possible DVD display gizmos and even considered using baskets they sell there- nothing will fit the Disney tins! EVerything they make to hold a DVD will only fit standard cases - as you know, the tins are 8" by 6" and that is just too big for the Ikea products.

It's true most of the IKEA shelves won't fit something the size of the Tins. The particular ones I use are adjustable, though, so the tins could technically fit if I made the shelves a bit taller. These are the ones I use:

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s ... ctId=11414

I have several around the room. The majority are adjusted for DVD-cases, however I also have ones for CD and DVD-Audio cases.

However, I figure the tins are less likely to get dented/scratched/etc. in the drawer than if I put them up on the shelf and were always fiddling with them to get the discs out. Plus, they make getting to the discs a more annoying process.

[Eeyore]

You are right he really isn't trying to blame Leonard.

When you take money to put your name on something and be the spokesman, ultimately you *are* responsible.

Just like Kathy Lee Gifford and others who've had clothing lines that turned out to be from child labour.

[Douglas Fir]

You are right he really isn't trying to blame Leonard.

When you take money to put your name on something and be the spokesman, ultimately you *are* responsible.

Just like Kathy Lee Gifford and others who've had clothing lines that turned out to be from child labour.

It seems to me that they've realised we'll buy these releases anyway and they're basically just cutting costs with each wave

I just got mine today and after struggling to get the security seals off - which have left sticky residue all over the tine I was dissapointed to see that the cards on the back are even worse than last years and they all fell off almost immediately (in fact the rarities tin didn't even have the two totally useless drops of glue that the other tins have - just the card loose in the shrinkwrap!).

Not to mention that after giving us white cases last year they've thankfully switched back to black but now made them slimmer! Arrrggghh!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if on the next wave the image on the front of the tins will be printed on card too and they'll switch to super slimline neon green cases!!!

Oh well - hopefully they haven't messed up any of the content this time - they haven't have they?

[Pluto Region1]

It's true most of the IKEA shelves won't fit something the size of the Tins. The particular ones I use are adjustable, though, so the tins could technically fit if I made the shelves a bit taller. These are the ones I use:

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s ... ctId=11414

I have several around the room. The majority are adjusted for DVD-cases, however I also have ones for CD and DVD-Audio cases.

However, I figure the tins are less likely to get dented/scratched/etc. in the drawer than if I put them up on the shelf and were always fiddling with them to get the discs out. Plus, they make getting to the discs a more annoying process.

Yes, I see what you mean about having to open and close the tins and the damage potential. Thanks for the link! I saw those cabinets at Ikea but I was afraid of having anything that tall and narrow due to the earthquake risks here in So. Calif. Those cabinets make a great space saver though and I might consider buying the shorter Billy cabinet line they make for this purpose and possibly using baskets to hold the CDs. (they have a neat rotating cabinet but it comes in the wrong color). Having a nice wood case on the credenza to display the tins would have been nice though and IKEA just doesn't have anything that I can think of as of yet, that I could use for that purpose. I need to get one of their catalogs, but they were out of them at the store.

[TM2-Megatron]

I saw those cabinets at Ikea but I was afraid of having anything that tall and narrow due to the earthquake risks here in So. Calif.

They come with the hardware necessary to secure them to your wall at the top; and if that's done, I'd think it would take quite an earthquack to topple them.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Don't be so lazy, and understand that watching a movie on DVD is supposed to be fun. You probably have more movies with Easter Eggs on them than you realize and it would be a true 'video adventure' to find those eggs and see what you have been missing. Sometimes there is subtantial material - sometimes there is only DVD credits, but mostly there is always something unusual that is to be found in the Easter Egg.

Sure, DVDs are a lot of fun. "Figuring them out", though, isn't quite my idea of "adventure". But that's really no problem - unless important material is covered up. The only time this has bothered me somewhat was on the Silly Symphonies volume of the Walt Disney Treasures, where a few shorts were slightly hidden. Fortunately they are very easy to locate.

If I had any "say", I'd recommend that these few shorts be repeated on the second and final Silly Symphonies Treasure.

As for easter eggs, I guess you could be right when you say that I probably have more of them than I realize. I wouldn't know. But perhaps I'll feel like going treasure hunting some day.

[Douglas Fir]

If I had any "say", I'd recommend that these few shorts be repeated on the second and final Silly Symphonies Treasure.

Definately won't happen - earlier this year I asked Leonard Maltin if there was any chance the proper uncut version of the Three Little Pigs (which was released in Region 2) would be included in Silly Symphonies Vol. 2 (as a Bonus Feature or maybe, ironically, as an Easter Egg!)... the answer was a flat out "no"! If they're unwilling to revisit shorts they got wrong the first time it's highly unlikely they'll revisit shorts that in their infinite wisdom they decided to hide in an earlier release (even though they listed them in the packaging)!