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Shot for shot CG Remake of Pinocchio by Disney?
In another great and inspiring column, AICN's Harry Knowles reports that Michael Eisner has suggested very quietly re-creating Pinocchio from scratch, a la Van Sant's Psycho (shot for shot remake) but in CGI, "for a new generation to enjoy". The worst part? "The rumor is, this is just the tip of the iceberg." Oh my... make sure to read the rest of Harry's article here!
Here's the link to AICN
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15338
And here's the article that "started it all" (to use a Disney phrase)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/917915.asp?cp1=1
Pinocchio Remake?
Pinocchio Remake?
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The more I hear about this Eisner creature, the less I like him.
"for a new generation to enjoy" - Huh? They can enjoy Pinocchio on DVD, dagnabbit. Utterly pointless.
Can't people learn from mistakes others have made in the past? The remake (clouds and all) of Psycho was absolutely awful, as almost all remakes of classic films are. Even if they pull it off quite well, it's not going to top the original, so why even bother? I doubt it's just for the money (
), but if it is, surely they can just release Pinocchio 2 or some such nonsense.
"for a new generation to enjoy" - Huh? They can enjoy Pinocchio on DVD, dagnabbit. Utterly pointless.
Can't people learn from mistakes others have made in the past? The remake (clouds and all) of Psycho was absolutely awful, as almost all remakes of classic films are. Even if they pull it off quite well, it's not going to top the original, so why even bother? I doubt it's just for the money (
), but if it is, surely they can just release Pinocchio 2 or some such nonsense.
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Tangela
M. Eisner planning to remake Pinocchio???
Hey folks,
I've hearing different rumours that the Walt Disney Chairman, Michael Eisner is planning on remaking Pinocchio. I don't know who this man thinks he is but I don't think he has a right to destroy Walt Disney's masterpiece that way. We should stop him before he decides on remaking Snow White. I couldn't even imagin what effect that would have on the company...
I've hearing different rumours that the Walt Disney Chairman, Michael Eisner is planning on remaking Pinocchio. I don't know who this man thinks he is but I don't think he has a right to destroy Walt Disney's masterpiece that way. We should stop him before he decides on remaking Snow White. I couldn't even imagin what effect that would have on the company...
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I think there was a petition online against this, I'll jump on a mission to look for it!!!BasilOfBakerStreet427 wrote:I've heard the news on animatedmovies.net.Eisner plans to make a frame-by-frame CGI remake of Pinocchio.If this is made,IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT(R.E.M. lyrics,wanted to break out in song)!
UPDATE: Oh No! It seems like Medusa together with Brutus and Nero have taken the petition and are running away with it in Medusa's Watermobil, I'll have to jump on the Leaf boat and rescue the petition. Let's hope I'm not too late!
EVINRUDE! WAKE UP!!! START YOUR ENGINES!
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Medusa accidentally fell off her watermobil and luckily Brutus and Nero didn't notice me taking away the petition, I was able to rescue it!!!
Here it is:
http://www.petitiononline.com/pinochio/petition.html
SIGN IT!!!
Here it is:
http://www.petitiononline.com/pinochio/petition.html
SIGN IT!!!
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I do not think that this will in any way take away from the original film, and if it is made I would love to see it. I think that Disney would be better off with coming up with a new and original story idea. I know that alot of you don't like to see the originals added to or changed but I love to see the sequals made and can't see how it takes anything away from the film. If anything it helps to bring the original back out into the spotlight for a new generation. Take for instance "The Jungle Book" One of my personal favorites, When it came out my neice and nephew both loved the film and really enjoyed it, and because they in touch with the charecters in the sequal, they both watched the original and had a freater appreciatiopn for it. So I hope that if Disney does redo any of these films that all of you will give them a chance.
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You're kidding right? I mean, I respect everyones opinion. But we're talking about a CG make-over of a 63 year old classic.... If they make that i swear im through with disneyPapa Bear wrote:I do not think that this will in any way take away from the original film, and if it is made I would love to see it. ....... So I hope that if Disney does redo any of these films that all of you will give them a chance.
It's a big diffrence between making a sequal that is another new movie rather then remaking the old one. That is what this is about.
I would rather see Disney spending their time to find a new and great movie made instead of just taking the easy buck and remake whatever is popular instead.
No wonder Dreamworks are doing so good when Disney does not work on new things at all (almost).
I realy hope that they do a good job on Brother Bear and that other movie, instead of just making it fast. If Disney just makes these films in sequal quality these would probably be the last real new movies that we will see from the Walt Disney company under the current wicket King Eisner.
Mr. Eisner would compare or even beat all the vilians in every Disney movie made. He is not there to make great movies, just in every way possible make money.
He would sell his own crown juwels if he thoght he could make money from that. Guess what movies that could bee.
I would rather see Disney spending their time to find a new and great movie made instead of just taking the easy buck and remake whatever is popular instead.
No wonder Dreamworks are doing so good when Disney does not work on new things at all (almost).
I realy hope that they do a good job on Brother Bear and that other movie, instead of just making it fast. If Disney just makes these films in sequal quality these would probably be the last real new movies that we will see from the Walt Disney company under the current wicket King Eisner.
Mr. Eisner would compare or even beat all the vilians in every Disney movie made. He is not there to make great movies, just in every way possible make money.
He would sell his own crown juwels if he thoght he could make money from that. Guess what movies that could bee.
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If anyone has Mr. Eisner's e-mail or somebody's close to himself, PROVIDE IT TO US, before our wooden boy becomes a pixelled boy!!!!
The BLUE FAIRY will be BLUE, sad that is, FOREVER!!!!!
Mr. Eisner needs another conscience, he needs a Jimminy Crickett.
IS HE NUTS?
The BLUE FAIRY will be BLUE, sad that is, FOREVER!!!!!
Mr. Eisner needs another conscience, he needs a Jimminy Crickett.
IS HE NUTS?
Sanctuary! Please, give me Sanctuary!
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I said this before, but Eisner is infairls criticized by people of today. What you must remember is that he is not Walt Disney and is not a creative genius like he was. He is a businessman, his job IS to make money and in that capacity, it is unfair to compare him to Walt.
As far as the CG remake goes, this is old news. I think it's a waste of time remaking a film in CG just for the sake of doing it. It's like that Psycho remake they did a few years back. What was the point?
As far as the CG remake goes, this is old news. I think it's a waste of time remaking a film in CG just for the sake of doing it. It's like that Psycho remake they did a few years back. What was the point?
I'm not against such a movie, but I'm not for it either. At least everyone would know for the outset what it was and as such, could make their own minds up about seeing it or not. I do have one reservation, and that's that the new CGI film would become more readily available and therefore Disney's "default" version. It's all a moot point anyway, as I doubt the film (or any other, like the CGI Peter Pan) will be made.
I have to agree with Maerj. While I do get some delight in reporting on Disney's business ups and downs, there is not doubt that without Eisner (and Wells) Disney today would be a shadow if it's former self. (And who knows, perhaps Feature Animation would have shut itself down in the mid 80's). But I feel no guilt in picking Eisner out for complaint and critisism. After all, he's paid the big bucks and, to a certain extent, its his job to take complaints (and praise). Eisner may be getting all the attention for Disney's failures or problems, but it goes with the territory. But he's clearly not the devil some make him out to be.
That said, I think some of Eisner's judgements have been off recently. And I'm obviously not the only one who thinks so - the board seem to be doing a lot of deliberating on Eisner's position recently.
I think that there's two reasons for this:
1) When Eisner was taken on it was in partnership with the late Frank Wells. Eisner and Wells would consult with each other before making any decision. People have often reported that while Eisner was the businessman, Wells was the heart. I think it's obvious - if one takes into account the business and critical successes - that Eisner worked better with Wells.
2) The guy's so rich his heart really cannot be in it anymore. He has too much and not enough to loose if things do go wrong. Not that I'm saying he will make bad decisions on purpose, but I think that its only natural that somebody in his financial position must have lost his edge.
I think it's just possible Eisner's been at Disney too long. To me, looking at everything that's happened in the past two to three years, it seems that he really has nothing new to add to the company - remakes of existing features being the classic example of this. Either himself, or his management style and/or structure is drowning creativity.
He also seems to be repeating past mistakes - Pixar builds itself up with Disney assistance and finance until its strong enough to threaten Disney. Not something you would expect Disney to want to happen again, but even now Disney is entering agreements with third-party CGI studios that mirror Disney's initial agreement with Pixar. Most people agree that the purchase of ABC was a mistake, yet reports are Disney are interested in buying the new mearged ITV network in the UK.
Of course, as I've said, Eisner has done a lot for Disney. But I do think he's peaked and now is in decline. Would a new face do better? Perhaps, perhaps not.
I have to agree with Maerj. While I do get some delight in reporting on Disney's business ups and downs, there is not doubt that without Eisner (and Wells) Disney today would be a shadow if it's former self. (And who knows, perhaps Feature Animation would have shut itself down in the mid 80's). But I feel no guilt in picking Eisner out for complaint and critisism. After all, he's paid the big bucks and, to a certain extent, its his job to take complaints (and praise). Eisner may be getting all the attention for Disney's failures or problems, but it goes with the territory. But he's clearly not the devil some make him out to be.
That said, I think some of Eisner's judgements have been off recently. And I'm obviously not the only one who thinks so - the board seem to be doing a lot of deliberating on Eisner's position recently.
I think that there's two reasons for this:
1) When Eisner was taken on it was in partnership with the late Frank Wells. Eisner and Wells would consult with each other before making any decision. People have often reported that while Eisner was the businessman, Wells was the heart. I think it's obvious - if one takes into account the business and critical successes - that Eisner worked better with Wells.
2) The guy's so rich his heart really cannot be in it anymore. He has too much and not enough to loose if things do go wrong. Not that I'm saying he will make bad decisions on purpose, but I think that its only natural that somebody in his financial position must have lost his edge.
I think it's just possible Eisner's been at Disney too long. To me, looking at everything that's happened in the past two to three years, it seems that he really has nothing new to add to the company - remakes of existing features being the classic example of this. Either himself, or his management style and/or structure is drowning creativity.
He also seems to be repeating past mistakes - Pixar builds itself up with Disney assistance and finance until its strong enough to threaten Disney. Not something you would expect Disney to want to happen again, but even now Disney is entering agreements with third-party CGI studios that mirror Disney's initial agreement with Pixar. Most people agree that the purchase of ABC was a mistake, yet reports are Disney are interested in buying the new mearged ITV network in the UK.
Of course, as I've said, Eisner has done a lot for Disney. But I do think he's peaked and now is in decline. Would a new face do better? Perhaps, perhaps not.
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The problem is that this will not fail because the big majority do not care at all.
That is why all those terrible sequals are made.
Disney has no people in charge that just work by the love for the work. When Walt and his brother was in charge they filled each other. Now Disney are only run by money men, and the people like Walt are not in there anymore.
Imagine how low Disney has sunk when they throws a kindergarden to court because they have some Disney drawings on the wall.
That is why all those terrible sequals are made.
Disney has no people in charge that just work by the love for the work. When Walt and his brother was in charge they filled each other. Now Disney are only run by money men, and the people like Walt are not in there anymore.
Imagine how low Disney has sunk when they throws a kindergarden to court because they have some Disney drawings on the wall.
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