Problems with memnv -- AGAIN!

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:23 am

(EDITED by Lazario!)

memnv · Post by **memnv** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:41 am

Maybe your the problem, don't think all your posts are perfect Lazario, Even the person who started the thread thinks that your the problem there. Maybe it is time you grow up and realize that the problem is not me.

indianajdp · Post by **indianajdp** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:46 pm

laz, if you have a prob w/ Mem (or if anyone has a problem w/ anyone else for that matter) I would suggest e-mailing Luke directly. I honestly see nothing postive coming from airing this publicly.

idobelieveinfairiesido · Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:05 pm

I do think there should be sum kind of system where 2 much abuse or nuisenseness 4 example shud eb recognised! 3 strikes and ur out kinda thing.....my 1st nomination 4 that is Lazario. Think of something interesting to say yourself rather that just dissing and finding bad in others this is meant to be a disney site afterall not a call everyone and i quote sick and sad for discussing such cartoons.......i kinda thought that was what it was all about and why i signed up!

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:27 pm

idobelieveinfairiesido wrote:I do think there should be sum kind of system where 2 much abuse or nuisenseness 4 example shud eb recognised! 3 strikes and ur out kinda thing.....my 1st nomination 4 that is Lazario. Think of something interesting to say yourself rather that just dissing and finding bad in others this is meant to be a disney site afterall not a call everyone and i quote sick and sad for discussing such cartoons.......i kinda thought that was what it was all about and why i signed up!

You are very new here. Yet you are already saying Lazaro should be in trouble, yet you hardly know him. I am not condeming anything here, but this site has been around for, going on, three years this upcoming spring, and we have delt the problems easily.

idobelieveinfairiesido · Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:23 pm

good 4 u.

sorry can i just say something......since ur sticking up for him maybe u shud check out hottest disney princess of all thread...and see wat has been said. To join this site i had to agree i was over 13 not 18 therefore should not have to listen about people being sexually attracted to corpses, animals and children!! thats not right! yes i agree i dont even no him....and u do?? he is a screen name could be anyone like us all!

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:35 pm

idobelieveinfairiesido wrote:sorry can i just say something......since ur sticking up for him maybe u shud check out hottest disney princess of all thread...and see wat has been said. To join this site i had to agree i was over 13 not 18 therefore should not have to listen about people being sexually attracted to corpses, animals and children!! thats not right! yes i agree i dont even no him....and u do?? he is a screen name could be anyone like us all!

faires- You really have to be here a while to get to "know" these members. Now Lazario hasn't been the nicest UD member, but he was just expressing his opinions on your thread. Does that mean everyone has to agree with them? No. But it would be nice for you(and anyone for that matter) to actually give reasons why you don't agree with him instead of saying he should get banned or get in trouble.

idobelieveinfairiesido · Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:41 pm

sorry if ive misunderstood u in anyway have i not given my reason? like i said as you only have to be 13 to sign up i dont think it should be allowed for people to talk about being sexually attractive to corpses, animals and children. and freely imply that people are sick for discussing cartoons on a disney forum!? is this so wrong and if this is all about expressing your opinions then why are people so uptight when you do so?!

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:44 pm

Lazario was just expressing his opinion about the subject, that is what message boards are for. People can belive in whatever they want. It was memnv who kept provoking him. This thread is about memnv, not Lazario.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:48 pm

Lazario, in the thread in question wrote:Sorry ChayChay, but it seems as though memnv has passed the point of no return to civility. I warned everyone about this before when memnv fell off the wagon (remember that glorious time when he was SUSPENDED, hint hint). But nobody listened to me, least of all LUKE (hint hint). You can't make a zebra change his stripes. The only option left is to ignore him, since we have a board run by the ultimate INEFFECTUAL team (here's the hint: DO SOMETHING, stop just sitting there and watching this play out).

can't

enough...

I don't care for much of what you post, but this is really over the line. Who are you to talk about an ineffectual team running this site? It isn't your site and you're free to go (again), just as you were free to join us (twice). If Luke had dealt with some of your past inflammatory posts with the same iron-fisted policy that you demand he use on memnv, then you'd have been gone long ago. I, for one, feel that you owe the UD moderators an apology, and most especially Luke.

-Aaron

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:22 pm

I really think Lazario is the problem not Memnv.

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:45 pm

Idobelieveinfairies, it was JUST as inappropriate for you to profess sexual interest in animated characters as it was for me to compare it to things you didn't find pleasent. In fact, that was kind of my point. You're not going to get anywhere by trying to brand me X-rated, which I'm not in any sense.

AwallaceUNC wrote:I don't care for much of what you post, but this is really over the line. Who are you to talk about an ineffectual team running this site? I, for one, feel that you owe the UD moderators an apology, and most especially Luke.

This may shock you, but I've already apologized to Luke. For this.

AwallaceUNC wrote:It isn't your site

AwallaceUnc, exactly what kind of point were you trying to illustrate with a remark such as this? Are you under the impression that I wasn't aware of that glaring fact? Or, catch this if you can, it's just a shot in the dark really - did you not think about something before you typed it? I think... woh, BINGO! That's it.

AwallaceUNC wrote:and you're free to go (again), just as you were free to join us (twice). If Luke had dealt with some of your past inflammatory posts with the same iron-fisted policy that you demand he use on memnv, then you'd have been gone long ago.

Is your attention span really that short? This post is about memnv, not me. Our actions in relation to this topic, are radically different. Did you stop to think about that? Oh no, I forgot, you're still grinding that ax you have against me. Stop deluding yourself, it's the only reason you're saying anything to me right here and right now. Let me put your mind at ease - I'm not leaving because of you, or people the likes of you. So you can quit it with the oh-so-cleverly disguised psychology that is supposed to make me feel unwelcomed. You're not that good at it yet.

You CLEARLY have not taken one look at what he has said, which is so completely OVER THE LINE that we're currently in Twin Peaks. This isn't about the things I've said which people like you have twisted out of context so that you could claim they were insults. This is about BLUNT insults from memnv, a member who has expressed hostility toward me on the basis of my sexual orientation, insults designed to try and hit my sore spot, meant to illicit an angry reaction out of me. This is a completely different matter. I never said anything that clearly intended to hurt someone's feelings. Never. Not that I have to defend myself to the likes of you.

And if this is about the things I said to you... You earned each and every one of those. Good to see you still wear your true colors on the outside. I can see how you'd rush to defend memnv. You used to dabble in a little of the very same thing. Cut that elitist, high and mighty thing you have going on. You're so sheer I can see the whole way through you. You're also on my list of people whose opinions don't matter.

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:48 pm

MickeyMousePal wrote:I really think Lazario is the problem not Memnv.

Who cares what you think again? Show of hands... ?

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:07 pm

Lazario wrote: This may shock you, but I've already apologized to Luke. For this.

Glad to hear it.

Lazario wrote:did you not think about something before you typed it? I think... woh, BINGO! That's it.

I make it a point to never think before I type.

Lazario wrote:Let me put your mind at ease - I'm not leaving because of you, or people the likes of you.

The likes of me everywhere will be so disappointed.

Lazario wrote:I can see how you'd rush to defend memnv.

I've never defended inflammatory posts made by memnv either- just the opposite, in fact. A perusal of past posts will show that.

Lazario wrote:
MickeyMousePal wrote:I really think Lazario is the problem not Memnv.
Who cares what you think again? Show of hands... ?

Lazario wrote:I never said anything that clearly intended to hurt someone's feelings... Good to see you still wear your true colors on the outside.... Cut that elitist, high and mighty thing you have going on. You're so sheer I can see the whole way through you. You're also on my list of people whose opinions don't matter.

Well so long as you aren't trying to offend the lowly likes of me...

-Aaron

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:37 pm

Lazario wrote:
MickeyMousePal wrote:I really think Lazario is the problem not Memnv.
Who cares what you think again? Show of hands... ?

Zoltack · Post by **Zoltack** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:38 pm

I'm sorry Laz, I respect you a lot but you're the one who took the first shoot in "Post a ramdom fact about yourself" when you said "That's what your mom said when you were born." And once again you and Memnv ruined a nice thread with your bickoring which needs to stop because it is bothering me and it's rather annoying. And I'm probably not the only one who feels this way. And I'm not saying it's just you either both you and memnv need to chill out. Just ignore each other if it's not too much to ask.

Well... atleast you and memnv did all the bickoring in the forum that doesn't increase you post count.

Isidour · Post by **Isidour** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:28 pm

Don´t you think that this kind of problems would be better to talk directly with Luke instead of just popping out threads like this?

I mean, I´m not saying "Lazario, Im with you" or "Memnv, you´re right, I support you" but this thing is realy starting to get out of control.
I think that you should arrange this,i f it is possible "live" on a chat between Laz, Memnv and Luke, and make an agreement or make the necesary to stop this issue from being a snowball rollling down a hill

but just my thought, and hey, maybe after all we need Teedee...at least we all were agree to "chat" with her

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:04 am

Zoltack wrote:I'm sorry Laz, I respect you a lot but you're the one who took the first shoot in "Post a ramdom fact about yourself" when you said "That's what your mom said when you were born."

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Because while that shot was certainly fired by me, it was under extreme duress. memnv had fired nearly half a dozen by that time before I made that comment, in the "Who is the Hottest Disney Princess?" post. Check the records, you'll see I'm not lying.

And AwallaceUNC, I'm like Tina Turner now... I don't really want to fight (you) anymore. That was a really cute picture, by the way. It really lightened me up. Plus, I really thought about this whole thing offline last night. But I still think you can't expect to be listened to until you really look at this situation again. And you seem to be refusing to comment on the statements I made about who really went too far- me or memnv. Why? If you still have distaste for me, leave it outside because I will not let you turn this into something about me. I've made it very clear that what he said and what I said are two very different things.

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:09 am

Isidour wrote:Don't you think that this kind of problems would be better to talk directly with Luke instead of just popping out threads like this?

Can't comment on the current actions of Luke. But this has apparently turned into a much bigger thing, between me and certain UD members who are getting involved, but only to try and salt what they think are my wounds. They want me gone, but it's not going to happen because of them, just so that you all know. I do however expect Luke will get involved if he has to. And unlucky for everyone, I have a real case and I'm fully willing to defend myself if need be. This will not turn into a 'hanging' just because I have a history with some rather spiteful UD members.

memnv · Post by **memnv** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:14 am

Hands a tissue to Lazario, man you are showing your age now geez kid grow up a little and be a man

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