Discussion on Disney's 'The Wild' (vs. 'Madagascar')

Papa Bear · Post by **Papa Bear** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:11 am

Ok I know that Dreamworks has been known to have a lack of imagination and has had a trend of following in Dinsney animations foot steps but this is just rediculous. They need to at least try to have some originality in there work . I was just looking on the dreamworks website to see what they had in the works and I found a title they are working on that sounded kind of interesting but really familar:

"Madagascar"
Featuring the voices of Ben Stiller, Chris Rock, Jada Pinkett-Smith and David Schwimmer, this computer-animated comedy stars four civilized Centeral Park Zoo animals who have spent their entire lives in blissful captivity. But when they are unexpectedly shipped to Africa and get shipwrecked on the exotic island of Madagascar, These native New Yorkers must try to survive and come to terms with what it truly means to be "wild."

This sounded good but a little to familar so I went back to a website that has Disney films listed that are in the works or will soon be and then I found this listed:

"The Wild"

The story follows a lion, zebra, giraffe and hippo who are released from the zoo and sent back to the wild by an animal rights group. Ending up on the African island of Madagascar the New York menagerie finds their lives turned upside down.

Starring Chris Rock, David Schwimmer, Ben Stiller, Kiefer Sutherland, & Jada-Pinkett Smith.

Well both of these films are supposedly supposed to be released in the summer of 2005 by Disney and Dreamworks. I am assuming that Disney dropped the project and Dreamworks picked it up. Or maybe the websites that have listed it under Disney were mistaken but I have seen it on multiple websites over the last year or so listed under disney animation. So if anyone knows the real story please inform us.

Post by **Luke** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:30 am

Those are WAY too similar to be different projects! If it is Dreamworks, and it probably is, I'd imagine, I'll bet that whatever website has the information assumed it was Disney because it's an animated project.

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:10 am

I agree with Luke, no way they could have it completely right.

Even if the premesis are very close as is often the case no way the casts would be the same.

Poppins#1 · Post by **Poppins#1** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:46 pm

Internet Movie Data Base has separate listings for each title:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405469/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351283/

Remember that Disney's "A Bug's Life" and Dreamworks' "Antz" were released within 2 months of each other?

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:49 pm

Papa Bear: What Disney site gave you that info? (with the premise and cast)

Now! Dreamworks have been working on Madagascar for quite so time. Cast has been secured and animation is being done. We could probably expect the trailer to be attached to this October's Shark Tale. Madagascar is set for release Summer 2005, with Dreamworks' Over the Hedge in Winter 2005. So they obviously have been working hard lately with 4 projects in one year's time.

Disney only recently announced (few months ago at a conference, same one where we heard about POTC 2/3) The Wild. It's premise, presumably, is almost the exact same of Madagascar. No cast has been announced as of yet, and it certainly wouldn't be what Dreamworks has already selected.

Disney has barely got it's act together, and they certainly wouldn't put out The Wild to compete with 2005's Chicken Little! The Wild is probably still in preproduction. Just goes to show where Disney's imagination has gone!

Here's some links:
The Wild, ala Sutherland:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00001204.html
The Wild, Disney's copy?:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00000908.html
Madagascar info:http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5019
Madagascar art:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00001726.html
More Madagascar art:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00000437.html
D VS D:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00000922.html
Madagascar, ala Stiller:http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00001708.html

Papa Bear · Post by **Papa Bear** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:03 am

http://disneywonders.tripod.com/movies.html
Is one of the websites I found it on I think I saw it on one other one but I can not seem to find the other one I saw it on, I am thinking both movies are still in production but that the website that had the description of "The Wild" was in correct but it still sounds like they are going t o be similar ideas. No surprise there I just wander who's idea appeared first.

Uncle Remus · Post by **Uncle Remus** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:02 am

Frankly i remember reading about Disney's The Wild a long time ago before Dreamworks announced their starting production of Madagascar. also remember that a long time ago Disney was thinking about making the story of Sinbad an animated film and that was when Jeffery Katzenburg, i believe, was head of Walt Disney Feature Animation. soon a couple years later when Katzenburg is working for Dreamworks, the animated version of Sinbad comes out (and came to be a horrible animated movie with too much advance animation and less good storytelling). i believe it was that since Katzenburg move over to Dreamworks, he took some of the rejected ideas from Disney and started making them into animated films under Dreamworks title. i see that Disney has had enough with Dreamworks taking all of their rejected ideas that could have been used, and now Disney is making their own version of the movie that Dreamworks is creating right now.

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:40 pm

I think it'll be interesting to see which film is more popular, if they do get released in the same year, same season. We'll see if Disney can beat Dreamworks at it's own game.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:58 am

I found some information in the Disney insider newsletter. It has news about an upcoming disney film called 'The Wild'.

The Wild
A different menagerie romps through "The Wild": the residents of a Manhattan zoo. At night, after the zoo closes, the animals show their true colors -- playing games, putting on shows, and generally whooping it up. When rambunctious lion cub Ryan becomes trapped in a truck whose contents are headed to Africa, it sets off a mad, alligator-led search-and-rescue mission through the sewers of New York. Expect to get Wild in 2006.

The plot sounds kinda similar to the project 'Wildlife' that was cancelled a couple of years ago.

toonaspie · Post by **toonaspie** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:05 pm

ichabod wrote:I found some information in the Disney insider newsletter. It has news about an upcoming disney film called 'The Wild'.

The Wild
A different menagerie romps through "The Wild": the residents of a Manhattan zoo. At night, after the zoo closes, the animals show their true colors -- playing games, putting on shows, and generally whooping it up. When rambunctious lion cub Ryan becomes trapped in a truck whose contents are headed to Africa, it sets off a mad, alligator-led search-and-rescue mission through the sewers of New York. Expect to get Wild in 2006.
The plot sounds kinda similar to the project 'Wildlife' that was cancelled a couple of years ago.

and much like Dreamwork's upcoming Madagascar

At New York's Central Park Zoo, a lion (Stiller), a zebra (Rock), a giraffe (Schwimmer), and a hippo (Smith) are best friends and stars of the show. But when one of the animals goes missing from their cage, the other three break free to look for him, only to find themselves reunited ... on a ship en route to the island of Madagascar. When their vessel capsizes off the coast, however, the friends, who have all been raised in captivity, learn first-hand what life can be like in the wild.

...in a basic sense, anyway. It looks like the revenge of Katzenberg part five!

Post by **Luke** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:35 pm

"Madagascar" and "The Wild" must be the same movie. We've discussed them 'both' a bit here:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=4279

toonaspie · Post by **toonaspie** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:50 pm

Luke wrote:"Madagascar" and "The Wild" must be the same movie. We've discussed them 'both' a bit here:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=4279

I think the imdb summary for The Wild was wrong (summary is no longer there). Which wass the cause for all of this confusion at that thread. The plotline according to Coming Soon is close to what Ichabod said.

They're being done by different studios with different casts using the same preferences, therefore it is another grand ol' Dreamworks/Disney war of CGI films.

This forum also gives you a better comparism of the real summaries

Post by **Luke** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:22 pm

Wow, that's just quite lame. Thanks for correcting me!

creamdog · Post by **creamdog** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:55 am

http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00003956.html

Does anybody know what this is. Apparently, these are supposed to be pics from disneys upcomming flick called "In the Wild". I doubt if these are reall, but there are some fierce discussions going on about these on other forums. On the top of the page it says :"Six screen shots from Disney's upcoming CGI flick The Wild, as found on the The Emperor's New Groove: The New Groove Edition DVD due out October 18, can be viewed here:". This disk has been in stores for a little while now. Does anybody here own it? Are these really on the disk? If this is they new road for Disney, I fear the worst...

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:16 am

This is actually called "The Wild". It's a flick created by CORE technologies and will be distributed by Disney. The stills on AN are probably not finished, so please take them with a grain of salt

The New Groove Edition of "The Emperor's New Groove" is a new DVD that is being released to promote Kronk's New Groove (at least that's what I think) and will indeed be released October 18, 2005.

Siren · Post by **Siren** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:32 am

Except the penguins, I am impressed. I like how they are taking a more realistic approach. Where as, Madagascar had a very stylized look.

stlewis75 · Post by **stlewis75** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:02 am

I saw the screen caps earlier this morning, but they've been removed from the site now. I hope it was a joke, because they looked terrible, no matter who's making it. I had to check the date a couple of times to see if it was April Fools Day or 1971. Studios have been making better looking CG-animation than that for years. Why would they use unfinished shots in a trailer? Trailers are supposed to make people want to see your movie... not make the majority of them cringe in fear that those could possibly be final screen shots. Though there were many things about the images that I didn't like, I'd have to say the top thing on my list would be lighting. I don't even know what more to say other than... please - NO! For now I'm going to believe it was a joke or they were unfinished for some strange reason.

Knight42092 · Post by **Knight42092** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:10 am

Movie Description: A teenage lion (Sutherland) is accidentally shipped from the New York Zoo to Africa. Now running free, his zoo pals must put aside their differences to help bring him back.

There may be a thread already on this movie supposibly coming out in 2006. The movie sounds a lot like Disney's version of Madagascar.

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