Song of the South on Dvd Discussion & Speculation Thread
Throwing in the ludicrous "Lindsay Lohan's breasts were digitally reduced for <i>Herbie</i>" remark sort of undermines any argument at any time. Right, and I heard that Napoleon Dynamite guy died.
Trying to connect Disney's reluctance to release this film on home video to any greater issue about political powers that be also seems silly, since there's very little in common with the two factors, and the film has not been reissued in 18 years due to the Walt Disney Company's decision (and no one else).
I'm sure if <i>Song of the South</i> is released to DVD next fall (and it really is ridiculous if this weak charade of pretending the film never existed continues), the majority of people looking for "controversy" or "offensiveness" will be sorely underwhelmed.
Trying to connect Disney's reluctance to release this film on home video to any greater issue about political powers that be also seems silly, since there's very little in common with the two factors, and the film has not been reissued in 18 years due to the Walt Disney Company's decision (and no one else).
I'm sure if <i>Song of the South</i> is released to DVD next fall (and it really is ridiculous if this weak charade of pretending the film never existed continues), the majority of people looking for "controversy" or "offensiveness" will be sorely underwhelmed.
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Actually you did say that, but you did not mean to. That is fine. Amistad deals with slavery in a historically correct and thoughtful manner. However, you are correct on the Patriot and Gone with the Wind. I would consider both to be worse than Song of the South. Song of the South is not really racist. It does not create hatred towards blacks, it is just a completely unrealistic portrayal of the conditions they lived their lives in.KinOO wrote:i didn't say that! ! !
Slavery is as much important to be remembered as the Shoah or Rwanda genocide, but WHY THE HELL this stupid veto because it is "historically uncorrect"? Steven Spielberg made Schindler List and this year's Hotel Rwanda was an excellent movie, and about Slavery, didn't Amistad dealt with it already, and what about Mel Gibson's The Patriot? Gone with the Wind????. This is just a dumb and hypocrit position from Disney not to release Songs of the South.
Yup totally agree there but I still don't see why this would stop Disney from releasing it in some form with interviews, commentary (Like Leonard Maltin on the Treasures) explaining this.Mr. Toad wrote: Song of the South is not really racist. It does not create hatred towards blacks, it is just a completely unrealistic portrayal of the conditions they lived their lives in.
The marketing campaign if any should be focused more on collectors or the Treasures crowd.
The only reason I think not to release this would be for money reasons... if they spend a ton of money preparing for the release and not that many wwant to buy it then that would be a roadblock.
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Luke wrote:I'm sure if <i>Song of the South</i> is released to DVD next fall (and it really is ridiculous if this weak charade of pretending the film never existed continues), the majority of people looking for "controversy" or "offensiveness" will be sorely underwhelmed.
well there is Splash Moutain at the Disney Parks... that's not really pretending like it never existed. i agree though, disney should release it soon and next year seems to be the prime time to do so. maybe they will take advantage of it!
Yes, but that's just all the worse, because half the people who go on Splash Mountain probably think the characters and settings are just something created for the theme parks. It's weird that the material is okay to mine for a thrill ride attraction, but yet not to release? In retrospect, I'd think that the way Disney likes to cross-promote, that 1992 when Splash Mountain opened would have been as fine a time as any to release <i>Song of the South</i> to video. But then, so would have been 1986, when they released it to theaters instead. Go figure.singerguy04 wrote:well there is Splash Moutain at the Disney Parks... that's not really pretending like it never existed.
Well, Splash Mountain in Disneyland opened the summer of 1989. That is only three years after the last theatrical re-release of "Song of the South". At the time, I'm sure that the movie, characters and storyline were very fresh and well known to most guests.Luke wrote: Yes, but that's just all the worse, because half the people who go on Splash Mountain probably think the characters and settings are just something created for the theme parks. It's weird that the material is okay to mine for a thrill ride attraction, but yet not to release? In retrospect, I'd think that the way Disney likes to cross-promote, that 1992 when Splash Mountain opened would have been as fine a time as any to release <i>Song of the South</i> to video. But then, so would have been 1986, when they released it to theaters instead. Go figure.
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That's also the time where the controversy over the film was fresh as well, and the last time Disney has really done anything with the film. Really, if it can be released worldwide, what is so wrong that it can't be released here? I said in my earlier post that Pocahontas is far more inaccurate but I hear of nobody standing up and whining about it. Heck that one indian scene in Peter Pan is downright prejudiced yet they still sell dvds of that film over here.Cnjp wrote:Well, Splash Mountain in Disneyland opened the summer of 1989. That is only three years after the last theatrical re-release of "Song of the South". At the time, I'm sure that the movie, characters and storyline were very fresh and well known to most guests.
It's about time we asked, "What gives, Disney?"
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Actually if you watch some of the episodes of "House of Mouse", you'll find some of the SOTS characters. Even some songs from SOTS come on those "Sing A Long Songs".Roger Rabbit wrote:That's also the time where the controversy over the film was fresh as well, and the last time Disney has really done anything with the film.
When AFI did their Top 100 movie songs, "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" came at #47. Also like I said earlier, James Baskett is the first black man to ever receive an Oscar. So this film has become famous in Hollywood history, and to not have it released on video just because the black people's lives in that movie were "unrealistic" is ridiculous considering there are much more racist films that are able to get released(some of them being Disney), so hopefully this film will get released next year.
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Sad, that such an accomplishment can be made (Baskett indeed did a fine job with the song) yet so many know nothing else about the film it came from because it isn't available to them.Timon/Pumba fan wrote:
When AFI did their Top 100 movie songs, "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" came at #47. Also like I said earlier, James Baskett is the first black man to ever receieve and Oscar. So this film has become famos in Hollywood history, and to not have it released on video just because the black people's lives in that movie were "unrealistic" is ridiculous considering there are much more racist films that are able to get released(some of them being Disney), so hopefully this film will get released next year.

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Yeah it is sad! Considering that he did a terrific job singing the Oscar winning song and he won an Oscar himself. Too bad he lived such a short life(44 years old).Roger Rabbit wrote: Sad, that such an accomplishment can be made (Baskett indeed did a fine job with the song) yet so many know nothing else about the film it came from because it isn't available to them.
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