The end of an era!! (No VHS for Herbie: Fully Loaded)

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:07 pm

Sort of sad to see VHS finally leave us. I haven't bought a VHS in almost 5 years now, and my VCR barely gets used. I knew the nail was put in the coffin for VHS when I read that Walmart would stop stocking them in early 2006. Most Video stores here are slowly selling out there VHS stock using $1.00 movie sales. Still they move very slowly. Still its kind of hard to see them go. I remember getting our first VCR when I was around 5. That thing was expensive. You could buy a decent sized TV for that price now.

A Widescreen TV is also not the answer to fix "black bars". Sure the picture looks better on a Widescreen (well if its an anamorphic dvd), but films in 2.35:1, 2.40:1, etc... still have the "black bars" at the top and bottom. Also it adds bars to your 1.33:1 films, unless you stretch it which depending on your set may look ok, or it may look horrible.

I have no problems watching widescreen films on my 4:3 standard tv, but I can see where some people would have a issue with them. At first I hated widescreen. After finding out what I missed and getting used to the black bars I personally wouldn't go back to pan and scan.

However I still think the answer is really just releasing 2 versions of the films like most movies are now. That way people can choose.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:41 am

DarthPrime wrote:I have no problems watching widescreen films on my 4:3 standard tv, but I can see where some people would have a issue with them. At first I hated widescreen. After finding out what I missed and getting used to the black bars I personally wouldn't go back to pan and scan.

However I still think the answer is really just releasing 2 versions of the films like most movies are now. That way people can choose.

It's a terrible thing IMO that so many Americans have a problem with the "black bars". In my experience the problem can't be anything like that in my corner of the world. I'm 31 now and I can't remember ever having seen the "black bars" for the first time. They were never unusual as far as I can remember.

Nala · Post by **Nala** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:06 pm

Once we got our DVD player, we didn't buy VHS anymore. We've been upgrading to DVD since then. I only use the VHS for home movies as I have a digital video camera.

Cameron · Post by **Cameron** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:14 pm

no star wars tapes either...glad to see it die

Disney Guru · Post by **Disney Guru** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:44 pm

I stopped buying VHS's a while ago. I still have some of mine left but I have sold the majority. DVDs are soo much better, in quality and sound. As we all know.

So Au Rivoir VHS.

Just Myself · Post by **Just Myself** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:51 pm

I have to agree with Prince Adam somewhat. DVD's a little overrated. They're great for picture, but unless you have a surround sound system, the audio isn't that great. And they're too tempermental. The main good thing about them is OAR (not necessarily widescreen, e.g. Alice in Wonderland [DVDJunkie

]). Features are great if you don't have a life and sit around all day, which most of us don't.

I'm not saying I will stop buying them, I'm just saying that I will miss VHS and will start buying them again for the next few months.

sethn172 · Post by **sethn172** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:13 pm

Disney Guru wrote:I stopped buying VHS's a while ago. I still have some of mine left but I have sold the majority. DVDs are soo much better, in quality and sound. As we all know.

So Au Rivoir VHS.

Howdy!

Yeah, I agree. I've never checked in a while, but when I said "VHS IS DEAD!," it's not exactly dead yet. About a month ago I went in to an old school Wal-Mart store and behind the DVD section were NEW VHS RELEASES!

I thought the stores had already bailed out on videotapes a couple months ago! Maybe it's because Blockbuster is pretty much 99% DVDs for new releases.

Also, if Disney USA DOES release Song of the South next year, it sure would suck to still be a VHS-only user waiting for that movie to come out in the States and NOT get a VHS of that movie! I guess Cinderella will probably be one of the very last VHS tapes ever produced.

sethn172

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:23 pm

I wonder what kind of effect this will have on Herbie's home video sales? Will they be lower overall compared to what the DVD+VHS total would have been? Also, will this mean that some of the folks who would have bought the VHS will now buy the DVD, thereby dramatically boosting the sales of the Herbie DVD?

-Aaron

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:25 pm

Aaron - I would doubt very many people who own a DVD buy VHS. Therefore, it will hurt the sales in the short term. Howerver, in the long term more people will start buying DVD players because they can no longer buy VHSs when their movies came out. Of course the market for VHS is tiny compared to DVD.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:34 pm

Mr. Toad wrote:Aaron - I would doubt very many people who own a DVD buy VHS.

Believe it or not, I actually know several people who do. They own DVD players, but either prefer VHS or have no preference whatsoever.

-Aaron

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:13 pm

AwallaceUNC wrote:
Mr. Toad wrote:Aaron - I would doubt very many people who own a DVD buy VHS.
Believe it or not, I actually know several people who do. They own DVD players, but either prefer VHS or have no preference whatsoever.

-Aaron

To chime in, I know of someone who prefers video to DVD as it has a more rustic quality to it. I think that I'll have to explain to him soon about the OAR issue...

trondmm · Post by **trondmm** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:27 pm

mvealf wrote:This isn't the first Disney title to be released only to DVD, there are tons of others. The Treasure tins have only been released to DVD for years. In 2005, there have been over 25 titles on DVD only, as seen here:<p><a href="http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/calen ... tml</a></p>

Most of the DVD-only titles are stuff that was released on VHS ten years ago, or more. If you make a list of Disney's home video releases of theatrical movies, you'll end up with a very short list of DVD-only titles. The only movies besides Herbie, seems to be the anime-movies Disney distributes.

jediliz · Post by **jediliz** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:49 pm

I don't buy movies on VHS anymore. I still own a lot of movies on VHS, but I also own a few of those on dvd (Pocahontas and Parent Trap being two that I have VHS & DVD copies).

My mom asked me what's wrong with VHS tapes.......*rolls eyes* she doesn't even know how to program the VCR and she asks me what's wrong with them?

I still use my VCR(s) to record television shows that aren't on DVD yet or that I need copies of before they come out on DVD or to record programs that won't be on dvd ever (like food network programs).

musicradio77 · Post by **musicradio77** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:12 pm

With "Cinderella" coming out on DVD in October, I would not get the Platinum Edition because I already have it on a VHS format. I bought it about 10 years ago. My mother told me last night that I wanna get "Cinderella" on DVD? and she said to me I don't want to buy it. I only have the same movie that is coming out on DVD on VHS. I'm so sad to see the Disney VHS go. I have lots of Disney VHS tapes, I'm not going to trade, it's going to be collectables. The VHS format that has been around since the 80's, after 25 years as VHS tapes was popular in video rentals across the country, VHS is going to be retiring.

I'm not going to buy VHS tapes anymore. DVD's might be good. I would buy DVD's besides "Cinderella", probably something different.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:08 am

Don't want to break your heart even more, but Disney VHS tapes will be very valuable in the future, because of the DVD releases. It would be wise of you to start getting all the DVD copies you can while they are available. There are several OOP titles that you will probably not see on DVD for a few years, but Cinderella you should get, and then make way for "Lady and the Tramp". Your collection of DVD's will probably be worth more than the VHS tapes in the years to come.

musicradio77 · Post by **musicradio77** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:54 am

dvdjunkie wrote:Don't want to break your heart even more, but Disney VHS tapes will be very valuable in the future, because of the DVD releases. It would be wise of you to start getting all the DVD copies you can while they are available. There are several OOP titles that you will probably not see on DVD for a few years, but Cinderella you should get, and then make way for "Lady and the Tramp". Your collection of DVD's will probably be worth more than the VHS tapes in the years to come.

No thanks for the DVD's. It's a waist a money. All I should do is watch "Cinderella" without the bonus feaures. With "Lady and the Tramp" coming out, I will not get it too. The DVD special editions are the ones that I'm not getting.

Buzz Lightyear · Post by **Buzz Lightyear** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:05 am

I don't think Herbie will be the first non- rerelease to get an exclusive DVD treatment. I've heard that Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (which I know is actually a touchstone film, but they're part of Disney) will be on DVD only next week. And I haven't seen any VHS versions of Lilo & Stich 2.

Just Myself · Post by **Just Myself** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:35 pm

Hitchhiker's will not be on VHS. However, L&S2 is out there (just hard to find).

Roger Rabbit · Post by **Roger Rabbit** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:07 pm

If you want to save money on dvds buy the "plain" versions without all the extra features (if you don't want them). For most people that like vhs because they just want to see the film, shouldn't have to pay more for things they'll never use (Dolby Surround--I'll never be able to afford that so plain stereo would've been fine for me

).

Actually my parents still have a very extensive vhs collection, and as of yet, I know they haven't replaced them all with dvds because we haven't watched some of them in so long it would be a waste of money--for as often as we watch those vhs tapes, they'll last quite a long time.

Post by **Luke** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:02 pm

Roger Rabbit wrote:For most people that like vhs because they just want to see the film, shouldn't have to pay more for things they'll never use (Dolby Surround--I'll never be able to afford that so plain stereo would've been fine for me ).

FYI, you can get a home theater surround sound system in a box for as little as $102.88 (and that includes a DVD player):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... /ref=nosim

I doubt Coby is a top-of-the-line brand, but that's about the cost of 5 new DVDs and will improve the sound experience that almost all major DVDs offer. For anyone with even a modest DVD collection, "affording" a Dolby Digital surround system shouldn't be much of a challenge. I myself used to dismiss the idea, but once you upgrade to even an inexpensive surround system, there's no looking back.

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