Will lesser known movies get a 2-disc set?

littlefuzzy · Post by **littlefuzzy** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:45 pm

I would love to see 2-disc versions of ALL of the Animated Classics. Non-theatrical sequels don't need a 2-disc version, however. I would also like 2-disc versions on the classic live-action films, like the Mary Poppins disc, or the Vault Disney titles.

magicalwands · Post by **magicalwands** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:47 pm

I hope so, I'd buy them because they sound like really good movies.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:43 am

Forgive me for bumping, but my spidey senses are tingling. IMDB (Naturally we need to assume that IMDB are a reliable source) have updated their Fox and the Hound II page, showing a November 7th 2006 release date. Now is it simply Coincidence that 2006 will be FatH's 20th anniversary? I think there may be a chance of a FatH SE alongside the sequel.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:30 am

there might be, but I've never seen Fox and the Hound, thus do not know of its quality.

Isidour · Post by **Isidour** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:53 am

I hope is just a coincidence, or one more classic will fall on the dark destiny of the sequels.

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:03 pm

Interesting Ichabod. I think it's most likely possible since they did the same to "Tarzan" and "The Emperor's New Groove".

However I probably wouldn't buy it since my last viewing of "The Fox and the Hound" was not a pleasant one despite a great cast. It was also interesting to find out that Tim Burton and Brad Bird worked on it.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:31 pm

I don't think disney would be releasing all of the animated classics on 2 disc dvd. They would be wasting a lot of money, and they should maybe concentrate on improving the quality of their movies more. (Say, Home on the Range was pretty bad...)

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:24 pm

Alan wrote:I don't think disney would be releasing all of the animated classics on 2 disc dvd. They would be wasting a lot of money, and they should maybe concentrate on improving the quality of their movies more. (Say, Home on the Range was pretty bad...)

Why would Disney be wasting money? That makes no sense what so ever.

BTW Disney has been releasing some good movie IMO.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:41 pm

yeah, but why aren't releasing movies as good as Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, and Lion King?

I would NOT like to see EVERY movie get a 2 disc treatment. Disney would never do that.

Little Red Henski · Post by **Little Red Henski** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:13 pm

Alan wrote:I would NOT like to see EVERY movie get a 2 disc treatment. Disney would never do that.

Why?

Nobody is forcing you to buy them. If cheapquels get 2-disc than all of there real films should also get 2-disc.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:13 am

Little Red Henski wrote:
Alan wrote:I would NOT like to see EVERY movie get a 2 disc treatment. Disney would never do that.
Why? Nobody is forcing you to buy them. If cheapquels get 2-disc than all of there real films should also get 2-disc.

Those DVDs will be filled with probably idiotic "games" and music videos. GAHH!!! I hate how they are putting more of these things than actual DOCUMENTARIES.

jamminjake245 · Post by **jamminjake245** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:40 am

I know. On all the "big kid" releases like The Lion King PE half of the extras are..games!! AHH!
One release that will have very little games is Toy Story because they have SO much to put on their of actual bonus features.

singerguy04 · Post by **singerguy04** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:16 pm

i think it'd be nice if disney created 2-disc editions for every animated movie, but then again i could understand because i don't really see there being a huge demand for a 2-discer of Home on the Range or The Black Cauldron. i jsut don't think they'd sell that well and the company might end up losing money trying to. I have an idea though... Disney owns the disney movie club right? why don't they make special ediditons for their movies and then only make them available through the club. Then we could have our 2-disc versions of whatever movie we need and also disney wouldn't have to worry about shiping them off to thousands of stores world wide just to have it flop! i could also see that disney could make more of a profit through the club.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:33 pm

Timon/Pumba fan wrote:
Alan wrote:I don't think disney would be releasing all of the animated classics on 2 disc dvd. They would be wasting a lot of money, and they should maybe concentrate on improving the quality of their movies more. (Say, Home on the Range was pretty bad...)
Why would Disney be wasting money? That makes no sense what so ever.

It makes perfect sense. Theres no reason for disney to have two disc sets of black cauldron or home on the range. Those DVDs would not sell well and disney would probably lose money.

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:05 pm

Alan wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote: Why would Disney be wasting money? That makes no sense what so ever.
It makes perfect sense. Theres no reason for disney to have two disc sets of black cauldron or home on the range. Those DVDs would not sell well and disney would probably lose money.

1. We're not talking about "The Black Cauldron" or "Home on The Range", we're talking about "The Fox and the Hound". And from what I hear, it did pretty good.

2. You couldn't be more wrong. Some of Disney's biggest hits were flops! "Pinocchio" was a flop, "Fantasia" was a flop even "Bambi" was a flop. You know how they got popular? They got popular after multiple releases in theaters and video sales. So perhaps some day films like "The Black Cauldron" and "Home on the Range" will get popular. Only time will tell.

I personally want Treasure Planet to get a 2-Disc DVD edition. It was a terrific movie IMO!

Alan wrote:yeah, but why aren't releasing movies as good as Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, and Lion King?

I guess you never heard of Jerry Bruckheimer. "Pirates of the Carribean" and "National Treasure" were Disney's biggest hits in and audiences loved them everywhere. However critics (unsuprisingly) didn't like either movies.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:34 pm

The "bottom line" is important. But I would like them to ask whether there exists interesting material for a particular title. IMO "The Black Cauldron" deserves a very special special edition. Not because it's particularly good or popular, which I guess it's not.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:45 pm

Timon/Pumba fan wrote:[I guess you never heard of Jerry Bruckheimer. "Pirates of the Carribean" and "National Treasure" were Disney's biggest hits in and audiences loved them everywhere. However critics (unsuprisingly) didn't like either movies.

I'm not talking about fricken live action movies, I'm talking about ANIMATED CLASSICS!

And please read this post:

singerguy04 wrote:i think it'd be nice if disney created 2-disc editions for every animated movie, but then again i could understand because i don't really see there being a huge demand for a 2-discer of Home on the Range or The Black Cauldron. i jsut don't think they'd sell that well and the company might end up losing money trying to. I have an idea though... Disney owns the disney movie club right? why don't they make special ediditons for their movies and then only make them available through the club. Then we could have our 2-disc versions of whatever movie we need and also disney wouldn't have to worry about shiping them off to thousands of stores world wide just to have it flop! i could also see that disney could make more of a profit through the club.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:50 pm

Sure, why not. After all, DVD still has plenty more years left in it (VHS lasted for over 20, so next-gen DVD or not, standard DVD has another 10). They're running out of catalog titles to put on DVD already, so double and triple dips in the next 10 years aren't out of the question.

As for loosing money, Disney will never loose money on an animated DVD. Being as most of the material prepeared for US Disney DVDs ends up on international titles, it's inconcievable that combined sales will result in a loss. The question isn't "Will Disney loose money?" but "Will we make enough money to justify the time creating a 2 disc set". Commercially, if you know you can make more money putting your resources on something else, you tend to do that, rather than exploit the same resources on something projected to make less money.

However, ultimately I believe they will all get 2 disc releases, with perhaps a single 2 discer for Fun and Fancy Free/Ichabod and Mr Toad and Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros.

Pasta67 · Post by **Pasta67** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:53 pm

I now a lot of people are responding to these and I'm probably just repeating what everyone else has said, but I have to put my two cents in on this one.

Alan wrote:I don't think disney would be releasing all of the animated classics on 2 disc dvd. They would be wasting a lot of money, and they should maybe concentrate on improving the quality of their movies more. (Say, Home on the Range was pretty bad...)

That is, in no way, wasting money. If Disney can take a movie and make a DVD with fun, informative, in-depth bonus features that will please fans of the movie and provide a treasure trove of production info, it certainly wouldn't be a waste of anything. Alan, whether you believe it or not, there are actual fans of these movies who want to know about how they were made, and even if you wouldn't buy it, that doesn't mean it was a waste of time, effort, or money.

Alan wrote:I would NOT like to see EVERY movie get a 2 disc treatment. Disney would never do that.

You're right, Disney probably wouldn't do that. But jeez, why would you not want to see a movie released with bonus features? Besides, I don't recall anyone ever saying you had to but them. If you don't want the movie as a 2-disc special edition, just don't get it and let the fans of the movie enjoy it.

Alan wrote:Those DVDs will be filled with probably idiotic "games" and music videos. GAHH!!! I hate how they are putting more of these things than actual DOCUMENTARIES.

I have yet to see a 2-disc special edition of an animated classic that only offered games and music videos. Disney does put those things in there, but makes up for it by putting in a great deal of making-of.

Alan wrote:It makes perfect sense. Theres no reason for disney to have two disc sets of black cauldron or home on the range. Those DVDs would not sell well and disney would probably lose money.

Even if they didn't sell well, I'd rather have them on the market than the DVDs we have now. I still can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want something that would only improve over the last version, it baffles me.

Timon/Pumba fan wrote:I personally want Treasure Planet to get a 2-Disc DVD edition. It was a terrific movie IMO!

Here here!

That's what I'm talking about. Ooh, ooh, with better coverart!

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:54 pm

Alan wrote: I'm talking about fricken live action movies, I'm talking about ANIMATED CLASSICS!

I think you meant to say, "I WASN'T talking about live action movies, I'm talking about ANIMATED CLASSICS!"

But like I said, someday they could be considered great movies just because of great DVDS.

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