Brother Bear

indianajdp · Post by **indianajdp** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:46 am

Well, we need to not only go see Brother Bear, but if it's as good as we hope we need to talk it up to everyone that will listen. Recommend it to friends and family, especially those with kids that love these type of movies.

In order for this movie to succeed (the way WE want it to) it's going to take a huge word-of-mouth campaign as well as repeat business. It can happen!

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:34 am

I want to go see it too! I hope my friends and I can watch it together.

Animated-movies.net posted an article about the Los Angeles Times's article on Brother Bear

Disney Has High Hopes for Brother Bear

For Disney, the success of Brother Bear is all the more crucial since its own homegrown animated fare has stumbled in recent years, with the notable exception of last year's hit 2-D movie, Lilo & Stitch. Executives say 2-D will remain an important part of the studio's future and express high hopes for Brother Bear. They say the movie evokes the luster and wide family appeal of Disney's 1994 Oscar-winning blockbuster, The Lion King, which came during a golden era when new animated characters became a driving force behind the company's theme parks, retail stores, movies and television shows.

"It's a fantastic story with great characters," David Stainton said. "The idea of Disney doing talking animals is a real winner with audiences." Whether audiences will connect with the classically animated style of Brother Bear, which features the music of rocker Phil Collins, remains to be seen. Fans of traditional animation remain hopeful. "The medium isn't over yet," said animation historian and author Jerry Beck. "It just needs to be revived. It needs some enthusiasm."

The LA times article is at:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-b ... 1645.story

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:59 pm

But judging by the storyline, this movie will be nothing like Lion King or Bambi. HOpefully Disney's done it right, and this can be bigger than eiter one of them. This has the potential to far surpass Finding Nemo (which isn't all that good) it terms of both story and animation.

CG just isn't that nice to look at. Compare the waves in Little Mermaid to those in Finding Nemo. Sure, Nemo's were more lifelike. But I thought that's why we liked animation-because it was an illussion of life.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:03 pm

I see that one of the pieces of artwork released (it's on Animated Movies) shows a mammoth - indicating that once again the final film will take place shortly after the ice age.

I thought this was the original plan, but was then moved to more modern times?

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:21 pm

2099net wrote:I see that one of the pieces of artwork released (it's on Animated Movies) shows a mammoth - indicating that once again the final film will take place shortly after the ice age.

I thought this was the original plan, but was then moved to more modern times?

I read that Brother Bear takes place in pre-colonial times - maybe before 1492.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:05 pm

The storybook says "Long ago, when much of the world was still covered in ice..."
So I'm assuming that means shortly after the ice age. But Native Americans weren't even in North America yet, were they? I thought they didn't come until a few hundred years before the Vikings, and that's long after the ice age.

But oh well-does it really matter when it takes place? I mean, someday people living in their sky cities are going to wonder when Finding Nemo took place.
"Was it before or after the ice caps melted?"

Prince Phillip · Post by **Prince Phillip** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:09 pm

Prince Adam wrote:But oh well-does it really matter when it takes place? I mean, someday people living in their sky cities are going to wonder when Finding Nemo took place.
"Was it before or after the ice caps melted?"

... it's sad but true...

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:23 pm

Prince Adam wrote:The storybook says "Long ago, when much of the world was still covered in ice..."
So I'm assuming that means shortly after the ice age. But Native Americans weren't even in North America yet, were they? I thought they didn't come until a few hundred years before the Vikings, and that's long after the ice age.

You're right! There's no way I'm seeing the movie now.

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:03 pm

The Box Office Report projects Brother Bear will make $15 million USD on opening weekend.

Here's the link to the chart:
http://www.boxofficereport.com/rl/release.shtml

Prince Phillip · Post by **Prince Phillip** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:08 pm

Well I hope Brother Bear, completely takes everyone by storm and grosses twice, or even 3 times that!!!!!

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:17 pm

Yeah, $45 million USD.

Check out some new pictures of Phil Collins singing:

Photo Advisory: Walt Disney Pictures' 'Brother Bear'
Wednesday October 1, 1:13 pm ET
Disney Enterprises Inc. has issued the following caption to accompany the photos available at the following URLs:

http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20031001/LAW069-a

http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20031001/LAW069-b

http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20031001/LAW069-c

http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20031001/LAW069-d

Oct. 1 - Lake Buena Vista, Fla.

Exhibitors and fans gathered for a special presentation of Walt Disney Pictures' "Brother Bear" at the National Association of Theater Owners ShowEast in Walt Disney World Florida. After the film there was a surprise live performance by the legendary singer/songwriter Phil Collins. The film opens nationwide November 1.

Photo by Mark Ashman/Disney Enterprises, Inc. Copyright Disney Enterprises Inc.

Source:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031001/law069_1.html

Matty-Mouse · Post by **Matty-Mouse** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:09 am

Animated movies reports that Brother Bear was shown yesterday and it got possitive reviews. From the two posted they both said it was a good movie but the first review commented the climaxe was lacking and the second reviewer said that the third act was confusing and remided him/her of Atlantis.

How unfortunate.

Post by **Luke** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:01 pm

Okay...so here are two cents on BB. Today's NY Times had this very neat fold-out poster of BB. My copy had two, actually. So, whoever wins Contest 3 will win that, also. It's double-sided and stretches several feet, or just about 1 1/2 feet, depending on what image you choose - the big one has all the characters and it's wide. Very nice, IMO.

The second thing is, this is probably not news to all of you, but it was to me. BB is opening 10/24 at the Ziegfield Theater in Manhattan. So...I may just have to go see it there, a whopping 8 days before wide release. If I do, I'll let you know what I think of it.

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:30 pm

lucky lukey! i'm jelaous! can i visit and go too?

Lady · Post by **Lady** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:43 pm

ugh. based on the trailer of brother bear they've inserted into the beginning of the lion king dvd, the movie looks very "blah". the plot line is lion king rehashed and the look is very much like Spirited away (the horse movie from dreamworks) but with more vibrant colors.

unfortunately, i think boxofficemojo is on the ball in forecasting that brother bear will make around $15-20 million it's opening weekend
(this is in contrast to Finding Nemo's $60 million opening weekend).

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:55 pm

Yes, there are some people who say that Brother Bear sounds like The Lion King. However, the thought of a person being transformed into a bear sound interesting.

I haven't decided if I'll go see the movie. The animation looks great, but the plot only sounds ok. I think I'll wait for more reviews to come in before I see it.

I'm going to look for some samples of the songs now.

Later

Eeyore · Post by **Eeyore** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:14 am

Lady wrote:ugh. based on the trailer of brother bear they've inserted into the beginning of the lion king dvd, the movie looks very "blah". the plot line is lion king rehashed and the look is very much like Spirited away (the horse movie from dreamworks) but with more vibrant colors.

You mean Spirit, rather than Spirited Away.

I was confused at that promo on the LK disk. When I saw the promo in the theatre *months* ago, there weren't any black and white unfinished segments that I remember. Yet they used them for the dvd.

And the best part of the promo was the two moose at the end (obviously Canadian eh) saying "If you see only one film this summer, well, then you're here already, so this is it, so see two movies this summer eh?" (not a direct quote). But that part wasn't included.

Prince Phillip · Post by **Prince Phillip** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:09 am

Eeyore wrote:I was confused at that promo on the LK disk. When I saw the promo in the theatre *months* ago, there weren't any black and white unfinished segments that I remember. Yet they used them for the dvd.

And the best part of the promo was the two moose at the end (obviously Canadian eh) saying "If you see only one film this summer, well, then you're here already, so this is it, so see two movies this summer eh?" (not a direct quote). But that part wasn't included.

Well disney has always shown the unfinished segments in the previews on videos, I remember them doing for Aladdin on the BATB video, they did it for Herc, I rember, other than that I don't really rember, but I believe they have always done it.

As for the Moose thing, that was in the preview in the theatres, cause it was relevent to that time and place, but people years from now, who see the preview, it wouldn't carry the same sway... if that makes sense...

Anyway to all of you with doubts in your mind about this, DROP THEM!!!!! You HAVE to see this movie, the future of animation depends on it. I'll admit that like you I was skeptical of this movie at first, but now I CANT WAIT!!!!

GO SEE BROTHER BEAR!!!!

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:20 am

They started releasing trailers with unfinished segments after the postitive reactions to the the Beauty and the Beast work-in-progress edition at the New York Film Festival.

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:20 am

Lady-

There is no way in the world that Brother Bear can be as bad as that annoying film, Spirit! Just give Brother Bear a chance, we know you'll love it.

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