Iger: 'Release Movies to Theaters & DVD Simultaneously'

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dvdjunkie> why are you being so rude to deathiemouse? Just because you are not interested or cannot understand in something someone is posted, it doesn't mean that you can call them cheeky things. I read your reply in a Cinderella thread, and you were forcing opinions down people's throats. It's not nice, you know. :|
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Wonderlicious wrote:dvdjunkie> why are you being so rude to deathiemouse?
I was thinking the same thing :?

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dvdjunkie wrote:Deathiemouse, you need to understand that only geeks, like yourself, want to see perfection at all times. The only perfection in our life was crucified on a cross and died for our sins.
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Maybe if they (movie studios in general) made better movies, they wouldn't have to think about a simultaneous release. But I get where they're coming from. Let's say a bigname movie star is in an expected-to-be-huge action/adventure epic. People will want to see that kind of movie in theaters. Then there are the nice little romantic comedies, that sometimes are better watched in the comfort and darkness of one's home, where you don't have to hear the other couple making out behind you. So it really depends on the type of movie, and whether it can do better in theaters (like action movies) or at home.

BTW, Alan, I'm 20, and when I was 17, I could have gotten my license, but my sister got in a car accident that scared me to death, and I only just got my learner's permit in January. Driving is a privilege, not a right, and some people choose not to take that privilege immediately.

dvdjunkie, calling deathiemouse a geek is uncalled for, IMO. If he enjoys all the techno bits of the exhibition of a movie on a screen, let him, don't belittle him about it. And even though I don't understand anything out of his mouth half the time, I enjoy reading it, because it's something new and interesting, and a refreshing change from reading "What DVD has a slipcover?" or "How come I don't have an avatar?"

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I'd rather read books and books of dethi's tech-heavy yet richly informative posts than one sentence of name-calling... or 'don't use UD's affiliate links'... or belittling Kelvin for not having a driver's license (as if it makes any difference to anyone else)... or anything by Alan as long as that avatar is still around. :roll:

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I say, try it on a not-so-glamerous film and see how things work out (for example, try it on a Lohan feature)... :) A win-win situation.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Deathiemouse needs to get a life...............change is coming and 'blu-ray' or no 'blu-ray' things aren't going to be much better than they are now. If you have the proper home video equipment today, you can see the movie just as you saw it in the theater yesterday. Whether it is 1.85:1, 2.35:1, 2.40:1, or whatever, common ordinary people (that lets you off the hook) can't tell the difference anyway. With a modern Home Theater front projection system I am totally happy with what I see and hear. DTS and THX are both clearing up the sound problems of old, and HDTV is helping clear up the picture. If you have an upconversion DVD player along with your HDTV, you a considerably better picture than with ordinary DVD's or VHS.

Deathiemouse, you need to understand that only geeks, like yourself, want to see perfection at all times. The only perfection in our life was crucified on a cross and died for our sins.

You should learn to speak English and quit talking over everyone's head. I read all of your posts, but only understand about 1/8th of them because of all your techno-speak. If you were to put it all in a language we ALL UNDERSTAND, maybe we can see what it is you are concerned about.

I, speaking for myself, don't see it. I am totally happy with what I have in my home theater, and my excessive amount of DVD's and the fact that I have just purchased a brand new DVD Recorder/Player because I wore out my second one, I think that what I see on my home screen is as good as I want it to be. I don't have to impress anyone else but me, and I am impressed with what I have.

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I thought that we were able to express our own opinions here. I am not being cruel or rude to any one. Calling someone a "geek" is not being offensive or rude. That is terminology that is used in today's world. "Geek" is a good thing and if you would all come off your ivory towers and read between the lines you would see that all of MY OPINIONS are just that - MY OPINIONS!!! You all have opinions and don't get chastised for them, so I don't understand.

I am not a science person and all those fifty-dollar words that Deathiemouse uses go right over my head. If he explained what he is saying in English for those of us who don't understand techo-geek, it would be much more interesting and educational.

IN MY OPINION Deathiemouse is one of those genius-types who is over-educated and under loved and the only outlet he has is a forum such as this to express what he thinks we all need to know.

HONESTLY tell me how many of you care about whether a movie is being 'matted', 'cropped', or 'squeezed' to fit your television. Those of you who don't understand the difference between pan & scan and Widescreen presentation need to read up on it. The little black bars are a good thing, not a bad thing. The black bars assure you that what you are seeing corner to corner on your television screen is the movie as it was seen in the theater. Now wasn't that a more simple explanation of the pan & scan versus widescreen presentation????

Maybe it is because we are dealing with so many younger people that my opinions are falling on deaf ears. I am a former projectionist at Disneyland in the Mickey Mouse Theater, and also in the theater business as a Union Projectionist for over thirty years so I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to theater presentation versus television presentation and whether a movie is 'matted' or 'cropped' or whatever.

We need to all be open to opinions. Opinions are not criticism or rude statements. They are opinions people, deal with it.

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I must admit, I find this idea odd. If anything, they should be going the other way and waiting longer for the DVD release. After all, bar the odd adjustment period, there will still be the same number of "new" releases each month. Do we really need to have a copy of the latest gee-wizz-SFX-blockbuster as soon as possible?

I mean, following this logic, you may as well half your film production budget and make less films and spend the money saved on TV shows. Give TV shows bigger budgets with the aim of selling these on DVD as soon as possible. After all, a movie is only on at the cinema for 2 or 3 months. Get a 22 episode series on TV and not only is it advertising for 6 months or so, but the network actually pays you for the advertising.

Releasing movies and DVDs at the same time isn't the answer. People will still go to see movies, just as people go to see artists performing at concerts now. But cinema audiences will fall, and I fail to see how this will help any studio.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Calling someone a "geek" is not being offensive or rude. That is terminology that is used in today's world. "Geek" is a good thing
Being called a geek is a good thing? Wow, all those years in high school those people were trying to pay me a compliment. All this time I thought they were just trying to be Jack Asses.
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dvdjunkie wrote:I thought that we were able to express our own opinions here. I am not being cruel or rude to any one. Calling someone a "geek" is not being offensive or rude. That is terminology that is used in today's world. "Geek" is a good thing and if you would all come off your ivory towers and read between the lines you would see that all of MY OPINIONS are just that - MY OPINIONS!!! You all have opinions and don't get chastised for them, so I don't understand.

I am not a science person and all those fifty-dollar words that Deathiemouse uses go right over my head. If he explained what he is saying in English for those of us who don't understand techo-geek, it would be much more interesting and educational.

IN MY OPINION Deathiemouse is one of those genius-types who is over-educated and under loved and the only outlet he has is a forum such as this to express what he thinks we all need to know.

While yes you're allowed express your opinions on this site, however attacking members because they have different opinions or because you don't understand what their saying is rather unnecessary. You may think the word "geek" is a "good" thing, others might be offended by your cruel remarks. It's alright if you want to know what deathiemouse is saying since he sometimes confuses us all( :P to deathie) however please say it as politely as possible.
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I'm not sure if they make the extras before or after the theater release but this might make some DVDs have less extras and some more for example lets say there is a movie like catwoman and they think it will be good so they make a lot of extras that would be good for the people who like the movies that flop but what if lets say there is a movie like Pirates of the Caribbean and the studio thinks it won't do too well so they don't make too much extras. I don't know if any of this can really happen but it was just a thought. Does anyone know when they start making the dvds??

Ps. I'm not saying disney didn't think POTC wouldn't do well :oops:
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You know that you all know you need to get a life! The word "Geek" means expert, full of knowledge, able to expound on the virtues of that which he has studied. "Geek" is a good thing. Look at Best Buy - they have a "Geek Squad" - experts in computers, and home theater and various other area of their stores. They even wear shirts that proclaim "Geek Squad" on them.

I am not attacking in any way Deathiemouse, and if you think I am, then it is you that has the problem. I was only expressing my opinion that he should think about those of us who are not "techo" people and who don't understand a lot of the words and phrases that he uses.

I never attack anyone, I am a firm believer in the "golden rule" and I practice it every day. So, those of you who interpret what I said as being aggressive, then maybe you better ask your "mommy" to explain the words I used, unless of course, you can look them up in the dictionary. I owe no one an apology on this subject.

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dvdjunkie wrote: So, those of you who interpret what I said as being aggressive, then maybe you better ask your "mommy" to explain the words I used, unless of course, you can look them up in the dictionary. I owe no one an apology on this subject.

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If I am understanding this correctly, what you just said is only geared to people under 15 who you think are completely confused by four-syllable words and are probably too stupid to understand the word dictionary?

"Geek", in your opinion, can be considered a compliment. And I'm sure you went to high school, where students were labeled the name. For some of us, it was not a compliment, and it was something that is not remembered fondly. "Geek", if anything, is an insult to me, and people who call others that are just insecure with their own intelligence.

I don't think you owe anyone an apology for your opinion. But if anything, I think you should give deathie an apology for
You should learn to speak English and quit talking over everyone's head.
Instead of saying it like that, you could've just asked him to give simpler terms ALONG with his run-on technobabble.

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I also think "geek" is an insult as well.
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It all depends of how you take it.
If you take it only for the social and cultural meaning that this word have created, ok, maybe is an insult
But hey, if you take it like everyone telling you Wise, well...I think than all geeks can understan.
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Why don't we all just drop it. :) I mean it's not a big deal, but you shouldn't call people names on this forum anyways. I mean if you call people names they won't want to post on here anymore. Just appologize and lets get back on subject here, I don't even know what the subject is about. ;)
Like I said it's not a big deal so it shouldn't be a big deal appologizing right???
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Yay - I was waiting to hear Netty's thoughts on this. I think he's pretty much right, too. People will still go see movies in theaters, but the number that they'll be willing to do that for will decline... only 'event movies' would make it (and we know how much Netty loves the concept of an event movie :-P). I'd hate to see this usher in an era of all movies going direct to DVD. I'd rather just wait for the DVD to come.

I'm not convinced that the correlation Iger is talking about actually exists, either. If DVD sales were skyrocketing while theater gross was down, I'd understand. They're both down, though, so it's not like people are waiting for the movies to come to DVD. They just aren't buying them. I'd like to think this is just some sort of weird funk the industry is in right now, rather than belieiving that this is just the way it is now.

At any rate, I see Iger having a hard time getting all the studios to join him, and even if they do, I see it as a short-lived trial.

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Wait, so let me get this strait Iger wants to release new Disney movies both on DVD and in theaters. That's not smart... Because you want to release it on theaters first so people can get a taste of the movie. That and theaters are the only place people can see the movie so you can make a profit before and after it comes out on video. By releasing the movie on DVD and theaters at the same time? People are gonna buy it on DVD rather then watch it in theaters therefore you not gonna make as much money.
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maybe as a bad-choice to fight bootlegs sellers,

-But I agree, why to release it at the same time?
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