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I’ve been busy during the past few months working on a variety of DVD projects, all of which will see fruition by the end of the year: four new entries in the Walt Disney Treasures series (The Chronological Donald Duck, Volume 2... Walt Disney Rarities, including all of Walt’s one-shot cartoons and a handful of his silent Alice comedies... the complete first season of Spin and Marty, including the entire Mickey Mouse Club episode in which the serial was introduced... and Legendary Heroes: Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox, taken from the Walt Disney Presents TV series)...
http://www.leonardmaltin.com/home.htm

Alice Comedies. :excellent:
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I've just seen this on the main page, and I must say that I am rather excited that the Disney Rarities tin is what I had thought it would be. Due to the Treasures line containing two volumes of cartoons each wave, I guessed that this would be an animation DVD featuring various cartoons from Disney and I am right. I will definetely get this along with the new Donald DVD.
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Great news! :D
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I'm just desperately waiting to find out exactly what cartoons will be on there... I have a good idea, but still want it confirmed !!
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Finally something. I need the cartoons sets, but I'll get them all.
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From Leonard Maltin's wording on the Disney Rarities DVD set, the phrase "Walt's one-shot cartoons" jumps out at me. Yes, that definitely says the "Specials" cartoons should be on the set. But it does make me wonder if the more modern "one-shots" will be on the set - such as "Destino" or "Lorenzo". I want the modern one-shots, but I won't be surprised if they are not included.

So, like everyone else, I will still have to wait a few months or so to see just what the exact contents of this set will be. The Disney Rarities set is definitely the DVD set I'm most looking forward to from the Treasures. The Donald Volume 2 is next favorite. The Spin and Marty is next. At this point, I do not plan to buy the Disney Legendary Heroes set with the Swamp Fox and Elfago Baca. I have never cared for those shows. If I do decide not to buy that set, it will be the first Treasures set that I will not buy.
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I'm super excited about the Rarities collection and the next Donald Duck set but I don't know about the other two. I know very little about 'Spin & Marty' and I can't seem to get too interested in the set and the Legendary Heroes one only has me half excited. I can't seem to care about Swamp Fox but Elfego Baca was pretty cool even though I don't know the Disney series I know what the real Elfego Baca was like (not personally of course :)).
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I'm hoping for Humphrey the Bear. The short where he and the other bears are picking up trash is probably my favorite Disney short. I hope it's on here!
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I have to say I'm really unsure about how all of the "one off" shorts are going to fit onto two discs, espescially given the facts that, usually 30 is around the max, with the exception of the goofy set, also most of the one of cartoons are longer than average, many of them are between 10-20 minutes long.

Even stranger, is I don't see how both series Elfego Baca and The Swamp Fox will fit on 2 dvds. There were 10 episodes of Elfego Baca and 8 episodes of the Swamp Fox, so that's 18 episodes each with a running time of 45-50 minutes!!

I don't see how that will fit on 2 discs.
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The wording says Walt’s one-shot cartoons so I would say that that modern ones like "Destino" or "Lorenzo" won't be on there.

Another thing, why is it only a "handful" of silent Alice comedies and not all of them? It's not like it would be hard to put all of them on DVD :?

Even though I have all other tins released, I'm not sure if I want Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox one and the Spin and Marty one. I guess I'll have to wait and see the contents. Though I'm most definately getting the other 2. IMO this is the weakest treasures set of all.

Also, I'm guessing we won't have all Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox eps :(
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1939
Ferdinand The Bull
1943
Chicken Little
Education For Death
Reason and Emotion
all 3 for being on OTFL
1944
The Pelican and the Snipe
1950
The Brave Engineer
Morris the Midget Moose

1952
Lambert the Sheepish Lion
Susie the Little Blue Coupe
The Little House

1953
Melody
Football (Now and Then)
Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom
Ben and Me

1954
Pigs is Pigs
Casey Bats Again
Social Lion

1956
Jack and Old Mac
A Cowboy Needs a Horse

1957
The Story of Anyburg U.S.A
The Truth About Mother Goose

1958
Paul Bunyan

1959
Noah's Ark
For Being stop motion
1960
Goliath II

1961
The Saga of Windwagon Smith

1962
A Symposium on Popular Songs
may not be considered a "Short" technically
1967
Scrooge McDuck and Money
features scrooge and the nephews, so may not be technically a one off

Stuff made after walt's death

1969
It's Tough to be a Bird
1970
Dad Can I Borrow the Car
1978
The Small One Countdown to Christmas
1982
Vincent Nightmare Before Christmas
Fun With Mr Future
1983
Winne the Pooh and a Day For Eeyore MAoWtP
1986
Oilspot and Lipstick
1992
Off his Rockers
1995
Stand By Me
1998
Redux Riding Hood
The Three Little Pigs
2000
John Henry
2003
Destino
2004
One By One
2005
Lorenzo

I don't think the chip and dale or humprey bear shorts will appear, as they were not "one offs", although who knows. All the stuff in bold would come to a running time of roughly 215 minutes, so that would be about 3 1/2 - 4 hours of material. But this IS Disney, so who knows!

Also Disney could do something horribly unforgiveable, with the Swamp fox/elfego baca set, they could put the black and white original broadcast versions on dvd, despite the fact they were shot in colour. :roll:
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This list of one-shot cartoons comes from the resourceful but unregistered Ben Simon. It differs slightly from ichabod's list and offers further educated speculation...
Ben Simon wrote: Saw the mention on the site about the "Rarities" tin. Nice to see some
"official" Alice product coming out, but otherwise this is going to be
what
most of us imagined. Now, a list of the company's "one-shot" cartoons
is
pretty extensive (see below), but I'm willing to bet that the Wartime
cartoons will have been accounted for in that set, and that shorts and
featurettes with characters (like Donald In MathmagicLand, etc) will
eventually surface as part of those series. Also, what's the betting
that
they stick to original, Walt-produced cartoons as opposed to ones
produced
after his death (or at least they'll end in the 1970s).

Here's a list of all the "one-shots" (actually referred to as Theatrical Specials and Featurettes by the company) released by Disney Studios:

Ferdinand The Bull – 1938
Der Fuehrer’s Face – 1943
Education For Death – 1943
Reason And Emotion – 1943
Chicken Little – 1943
The Pelican And The Snipe – 1944
The Brave Engineer – 1950
Morris, The Midget Moose – 1950
Lambert, The Sheepish Lion – 1952
Susie, The Little Blue Coupe – 1953
The Little House – 1952
Adventures In Music: Melody – 1953
Football Then And Now – 1953
Ben And Me – 1953
Toot, Whistle, Plunk, And Boom – 1953
Pigs Is Pigs – 1954
Casey Bats Again – 1954
Social Lion – 1954
Hooked Bear – 1956
Jack And Old Mac – 1956
In The Bag – 1956
A Cowboy Needs A Horse – 1956
The Story Of Anyburg, USA – 1957
The Truth About Mother Goose – 1957
Paul Bunyan – 1958
Donald In Mathmagic Land – 1959
Noah’s Ark – 1959
Goliath II – 1960
The Saga Of Windwagon Smith – 1961
Aquamania – 1961
A Symposium On Popular Songs – 1962
Freewayphobia No. 1 – 1965
Goofy’s Freeway Trouble (Freewayphobia No. 2) – 1965
Scrooge McDuck And Money – 1967
The Coyote’s Lament – 1968
It’s Tough To Be A Bird – 1969
Dad, Can I Borrow The Car? – 1970
Man, Monsters And Mysteries – 1974
The Small One – 1978
Mickey Mouse Disco – 1980
Once Upon A Mouse – 1981
Vincent – 1982
Fun With Mr Future – 1982
Winnie The Pooh And A Day For Eeyore – 1983
Mickey’s Christmas Carol – 1983
Frankenweenie – 1984
The Wuzzles: Bulls Of A Feather – 1986
The Gummi Bears: A New Beginning – 1986
Oilspot And Lipstick – 1987
Sport Goofy: Soccermania – 1987
Roger Rabbit: Tummy Trouble - 1989
Mickey, Donald And Goofy: The Prince And The Pauper – 1990
Roger Rabbit: RollerCoaster Rabbit – 1991
Bonkers: Petal To The Metal – 1992
Off His Rockers – 1992
Roger Rabbit: Trail Mix-Up – 1993
Mickey Mouse: Runaway Brain – 1995
Totally Twisted Fairytales: Little Redux Riding Hood – 1998
Totally Twisted Fairytales: The Three Little Pigs – 1998
Totally Twisted Fairytales: Jack And The Beanstock – 1999
John Henry – 2000 (completed) / 2002 (released)
Destino – 2003
One By One – 2003
Lorenzo – 2004

Now, take out the War, character series, previously Treasure-released
and
way post-Walt ones (such as anything past The Small One, which as you
know
is coming out soon too), and you're left with:

Ferdinand The Bull – 1938
The Pelican And The Snipe – 1944
The Brave Engineer – 1950
Morris, The Midget Moose – 1950
Lambert, The Sheepish Lion – 1952
Susie, The Little Blue Coupe – 1953
The Little House – 1952
Adventures In Music: Melody – 1953
Football Then And Now – 1953
Ben And Me – 1953
Toot, Whistle, Plunk, And Boom – 1953
Pigs Is Pigs – 1954
Casey Bats Again – 1954
Social Lion – 1954
Hooked Bear – 1956
Jack And Old Mac – 1956
In The Bag – 1956
A Cowboy Needs A Horse – 1956
The Story Of Anyburg, USA – 1957
The Truth About Mother Goose – 1957
Paul Bunyan – 1958
Noah’s Ark – 1959
Goliath II – 1960
The Saga Of Windwagon Smith – 1961
A Symposium On Popular Songs – 1962
Freewayphobia No. 1 – 1965
Goofy’s Freeway Trouble (Freewayphobia No. 2) – 1965
Scrooge McDuck And Money – 1967
The Coyote’s Lament – 1968
It’s Tough To Be A Bird – 1969
Dad, Can I Borrow The Car? – 1970
Man, Monsters And Mysteries – 1974


That's still a lot to pack in to a 2-disc set, so one could assume that
you
could lose the musical shorts that were on the Fantasia Anthology
(Adventures In Music: Melody, and Toot, Whistle, Plunk, And Boom) and
maybe
the Casey Bats Again and Man, Monsters And Mysteries featurette that
were on
previous discs, and it becomes more feasible, as these films were
usually
two-reelers, coming in between 12-25 minutes in length.

My hopes (apart from personal favorites Ferdinand The Bull and Ben And
Me)
are for The Story Of Anyburg USA, The Truth About Mother Goose, both
Freewayphobias, Scrooge McDuck And Money, It’s Tough To Be A Bird and
Dad,
Can I Borrow The Car? to really make the cut, as these are very rare
shorts
that have not really been seen since their initial releases.

I know this list is mostly educated conjecture at this point, but I
think
the info would be interesting to share with your readers as to what
kind of
things to expect. Of course, they could go a two-volume route, which
would
be grand too, but these are certainly the titles they'll be picking
from.
Some interesting stuff there and Rarities is certainly shaping up to be the set I'm most intrigued to see.
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Post by Lars Vermundsberget »

I would expect most of the mentioned titles from Ferdinand and on through the 60s - probably except the "vaulted" wartime shorts. I'm anxiously awaiting final news/results.
ichabod wrote:Also Disney could do something horribly unforgiveable, with the Swamp fox/elfego baca set, they could put the black and white original broadcast versions on dvd, despite the fact they were shot in colour. :roll:
Well, how did they handle the Davy Crockett set?
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Post by spies13 »

I would love to see the disney rarities treasure have the following:

Mickey and the Beanstalk - i know its not rare but what the hell
Peter and the Wolf
Ben and Me
Pecos Bill
Paul Bunyan
Ferdinand the Bull
Jonny Appleseed
Casey at the Bat
Lambert the Sheepish Lion

What are the chances any of these gets selected to be on it?
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spies13 wrote:I would love to see the disney rarities treasure have the following:

Mickey and the Beanstalk - i know its not rare but what the hell
Peter and the Wolf
Ben and Me
Pecos Bill
Paul Bunyan
Ferdinand the Bull
Jonny Appleseed
Casey at the Bat
Lambert the Sheepish Lion

What are the chances any of these gets selected to be on it?
"Mickey and the Beanstalk" was already presented on DVD in both "Fun and Fancy Free," and "Mickey Mouse in Living Color vol. 2"

"Peter and the Wolf" and "Casey at the Bat" are part of "Make MIne Music;" "Pecos Bill" and "Johnny Appleseed" are part of "Melody Time." I know all 4 of those were released individually later, but with having them all released recently on DVD as part of their original "package features" I can't see them taking up room on a set that sounds like it will be packed enough as it is.
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That looks pretty reasonable for a 2 disc set:

Ferdinand The Bull – 1938
The Pelican And The Snipe – 1944
The Brave Engineer – 1950
Morris, The Midget Moose – 1950
Lambert, The Sheepish Lion – 1952
Susie, The Little Blue Coupe – 1953
The Little House – 1952
Adventures In Music: Melody – 1953
Football Then And Now – 1953
Ben And Me – 1953
Toot, Whistle, Plunk, And Boom – 1953
Pigs Is Pigs – 1954
Casey Bats Again – 1954
Social Lion – 1954
Hooked Bear – 1956
Jack And Old Mac – 1956
In The Bag – 1956
A Cowboy Needs A Horse – 1956
The Story Of Anyburg, USA – 1957
The Truth About Mother Goose – 1957
Paul Bunyan – 1958
Noah’s Ark – 1959
Goliath II – 1960
The Saga Of Windwagon Smith – 1961
A Symposium On Popular Songs – 1962
Freewayphobia No. 1 – 1965
Goofy’s Freeway Trouble (Freewayphobia No. 2) – 1965
Scrooge McDuck And Money – 1967
The Coyote’s Lament – 1968
It’s Tough To Be A Bird – 1969
Dad, Can I Borrow The Car? – 1970
Man, Monsters And Mysteries – 1974
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Will Humphrey the Bear never come to dvd? :cry:
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Sure it will. :)

He'll appear in Donald Duck treasures but I would love to see a Classic Cartoon Favourite set with all of his and Ranger J. Audubon Woodlore included.
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The uncensored Three Little Pigs is probably the rarest Disney short hopefully it is also on this set.:razz:
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TLP have appeared in both variations ("censored"/"uncensored") of the animation, so in that respect I could think of a lot of rarer Disney shorts.

But the original sound of that censored part might be quite rare.
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