Alan wrote:A reason I don't like old disney films is the music. The music is SOOO bad in those films. Who can be heard humming "Gay Little Spring Song" and how many times do you hear people humming "A Whole new world"? Think about that
Compare the amount of people that know "Whistle While You Work" as opposed to "A Whole New World."
I'm willing to bet that more people know "Whistle While You Work."
Alan wrote:A reason I don't like old disney films is the music. The music is SOOO bad in those films. Who can be heard humming "Gay Little Spring Song" and how many times do you hear people humming "A Whole new world"? Think about that
Compare the amount of people that know "Whistle While You Work" as opposed to "A Whole New World."
I'm willing to bet that more people know "Whistle While You Work."
I highly doubt it. I don't even know the song "Whistle While you work". Everybody in my school LOVEs aladdin songs, and don't really care about snow white. Everybody loves "A Whole New World." Thats why its the #1 song in the countown on the website.
Alan wrote:. . .So I would think you would lose your bet. Sorry.
Well, I was talking about people overall, not just the people of your generation. Practically everyone grew up on "Whistle While You Work" not only because it's popular, but because it's been around for so long. There's even a rather distasteful schoolyard version of it that's been around a lot longer than the new generation of Disney movies!
Alan wrote:. . .So I would think you would lose your bet. Sorry.
Well, I was talking about people overall, not just the people of your generation. Practically everyone grew up on "Whistle While You Work" not only because it's popular, but because it's been around for so long. There's even a rather distasteful schoolyard version of it that's been around a lot longer than the new generation of Disney movies!
Now, a lot of people know the song "Heigh Ho", but not a lot of people know "Whistle while you work"
that´s because they´re classic, and they remind on people`s hearts.
It was the first Disney movie, so obviously will be one of the most remembered moments of all Disney, as it is Bambi´s mother death, Maleficent´s curse and many many more.
Alan wrote:but who can ever forget Robin Williams as the Genie?
Well, there are lote of different Disney moments that are unforgettable to different people.
For example, my dad didn't care for the new generation of Disney movies. Well, he though they were okay, but to him they paled in comparison to the likes of Snow White, Lady and the Tramp, Cinderella, etcetera.
And he hated Robin Williams with a passion.
I'd like to think I carry an appreciation for both generations.
yeah, because it wasn´t as easy as today to make an animation.
And even so they did really good jobs,what make them even more special than today´s one
and yes, Snowhite had an annoying voice indeed
Isidour wrote:I could
it wasn´t something extraordinay at all, just good
I also don't like older animation because the animation is so old looking and outdated, and snow white's voice is freakin high and annoying!
As I've said before, you don't even have to enjoy something like an old Disney film to have respect for it and appreciate it for what it is. And Snow White obviously holds a lot of importance. Had it failed, there would be no Aladdin for us to enjoy.
No one's saying you have to like Snow White's voice and no one is saying you have to like good old-fashioned tangible cel animation. But compare it to some of their first attempts on realistic animation of humans and you can see just how innovative it was. Heck, compare the animation of the animals in Snow White and Bambi and you can see more innovation right there. And as for the voice, all I can say is that it was very pleasing to the audience of the thirties and I think it's cool to see stuff from different eras.
You don't have to like the old classics. . . but keep in mind that there's a reason they came to be known as "classics" in the first place.
And as for Aladdin's Genie, I think that Eric Goldberg's animation of him is just as much a factor of the character's success as Robin Williams' voice.
Alan, don't forget animation does get better after time. compare the deer in Snow White to the deer in Bambi. Back then in the 1930s and 1940s animation was just starting out. Of course to you who are young, it's going to seem outdated. Snow White and Bambi can't be compared to Aladdin and The Little Mermaid as they're six decades apart.
As I said before, don´t focus only in the movie, but also in the times it was showed.But, why do I bother, a young kiddo like you will never understand the beauty beyond the crap of cheap-shoots gags and modern movies
Just because there are different movie tastes than yours doesn't mean I only like trash films.
You should see the Toy Story films, Monster's Inc. and The Incredibles. I really thought all those films were excellent. I agree that Nemo is very overrated. As for A Bug's Life, it was good but not great.
I saw Toy Story I & II and Monsters Inc, both being just entertaining while you watch and then you forget them again. I didn't bother going to The Incredibles after all.
Most females in the older Disneyfilms also seem to have no other goal than marrying. They meet a prince one time in their life and then just want to marry him.
What movie is Whistle While You Work from?
It was the first Disney movie, so obviously will be one of the most remembered moments of all Disney, as it is Bambi´s mother death,
I think Mufasa's death is more memorable than the one of Bambi's mom.
Alan wrote:Yeah, I think Mufasa's death is also more memorable than Bambi's mom's death.
Yet again, it's all opinion, but it's hard for someone like me to make an objective comparison.
I grew up with Bambi. I can remember the impact his mother's death had on me as a child. I was already 18 by the time The Lion King came out, so I saw it for the first time with more of an adult's point of view.
You could almost say that Bambi's mother is cypher, but that's not necessarily true. . . she's the embodiment of everyone's idea of motherhood. I think that's why her death had such an impact on the generations that grew up with it; we didn't feel the loss of his mother, we explored the idea of losing our own. Much of it was left to the imagination since it happens off-screen, which I also think is significant.
Mufasa's death is handled in a totally different way (on-screen no less), which is not at all a bad thing. It works better for the type of film it is and it strikes one in a different way. I'm not sure how many people think of losing their own father when watching the scene, but I'm guessing that most people simply feel Simba's loss over Mufasa.
Search a little more Alan, and look for which movie is based that scene, where did they feel inspired and even how did they called The Lion King before it came to the movie theaters.
Werwolf, is not only my opinion, check many of the "best 100 movies" or stuff like that, and as I said is not only the apreciation of the mere movie, but what taked to be created.
By example, Beaty and the Beast, the scene of the dance I think it was one of the first on using CG images, the result was a great and memorable scene.
The Lion king also have one, the stampede scene, where it was needed to create a single program so the Ñu´s didn`t cross between them or the rocks on the animation,the result was also incredible.
Aladdin, when Al is escaping of the Cave of Wonders, the lava was also a CG animation and just few bubbles where added, is not that hard as the BatB scene but is not quite easy to notice tht isn´t habd draw, so it works perfectly.
Bambi was the very frst to use different glass capes that were moved just a little, and there were scenes that used even 6 or 7 layers per scene, just for create the realistic-like sensation.
Every one of them needed an special effort and they triumphed because the hard work of animators and directors. Also, check a little more about Bambi, like how was the US and Disney studios when Bambni was made, I suggest you to use the 2nd disc of Bambi and check on the Extras
Honestly, no matter what great effects there are in a movie, the story is the main thing that matters, the rest is just luxury. It's not a matter to me whether other people define these movies as good, I personally need to like them to make them good movies for me. People hardly have heard of The Plague Dogs and Felidae, I love them nonetheless.
I can hardly look at the second Bambi disk, since I don't own it. I don't think it's necessary to buy a movie I don't even like.
Isidour wrote:
Bambi was the very frst to use different glass capes that were moved just a little, and there were scenes that used even 6 or 7 layers per scene, just for create the realistic-like sensation.
do you mean to say bambi used the multiplane camera, since thats what it did..... I actually DID watch all the extras, they were nice.
Werwolf wrote:Honestly, no matter what great effects there are in a movie, the story is the main thing that matters, the rest is just luxury. It's not a matter to me whether other people define these movies as good, I personally need to like them to make them good movies for me. People hardly have heard of The Plague Dogs and Felidae, I love them nonetheless.
So true. The rest is luxury. And I am a fan of Plague Dogs I haven't had the honor of seeing Felidae yet though