Lightyear wrote:Another question off topic but on topic..
If your child died, and a company was liable for the death, would you sue? What are you going to gain? would you feel right suing for millions and millions of dollars? would it ease the pain any? Would you look at your new found fortune and be able to smile that your rich now? Would it be a constant reminder of your childs death?
Would profiting off your childs death be a good thing in any way?
The only way I could see a lawsuit being good is too sue to have the wrong righted if it was a ride, or a vehicle or something that caused the death..
maybe suing not for millions but just enough for pay the bills of the funeral and phsyquiatrist, and fight for this games being tested several times before something like this happen again.
but wait, I just rememberd that almost any will do that because of the very bis sume of money
I really wanna go on this ride but I probably won't becaus e I'm scared I'll get really scared and I won't be able to get off the ride. I also reall really really wanna go on California screamin' but I'm also scared I'll get scared on the loop Can anyone who's been on that compare it to another ride at disneyland/DCA?
California Screamin' is not that bad, trust me. You can hardly feel it when you are in the loop. Besides, you have a shoulder harness, so you are safe. It's a fun ride and it's not bad in any way. It's not even a big loop.
its not a coaster. u sit in a model ship & it simulates a lift-off & trip to mars. its a spinning ride-an intense spinning ride. they tell u to concentrate on the screen in front of you. dont close your eyes, dont look at the people next to you, just concentrate on the screen front of you so you dont think about the intesnity of the attraction.
I think SPACE is the only attraction that I can think of that has barf bags included.
Fidget1234 wrote: .... they tell u to concentrate on the screen in front of you. dont close your eyes, dont look at the people next to you, just concentrate on the screen front of you so you dont think about the intesnity of the attraction.
Oh it's not so you don't think about the intensity. You'll flat-out lose lunch if you avert your gaze. Without a solid point to focus on your sense of balance is shot, you'll become instantly nauseaus and then you're in a quick downward spiral. No turning back at that point.
There are times in this simulator when it was very tough for me to hold that gaze. But I knew I had to!
LizzieMcGuire wrote:Does it spin you as much as the teacups? If so, I can understand the reasoning for the barf bags.
My mom HATES spinning but when she went on it(well actually I made her go on it ) she admitted it was nothing when it came to spinning! But what she didn't like was the when the controls come toward you since she's closterphobics.
I think of Mission Space as the carnival ride, "Gravitron" but with some there is a film in front of you so it feels like your going somewhere. Overall I loved it. I hope the family is okay though!
LizzieMcGuire wrote:Does it spin you as much as the teacups? If so, I can understand the reasoning for the barf bags.
More that you could ever imagine. The "capsule" spins furiously, which is one way to simulate G-Forces. But you'd never know it because you are enclosed in a dark space staring straight ahead at a screen.
A poorly trained or possibly untrained staff member tried to tie down the sailing ship columbia. He did it wrong, the rigging snapped and killed somebody.
Orestes provided a list of all the deaths above my post. Before that all deaths were the fault of the guest's own studpidity. When Paul Pressler became President of Disneyland the culture changed. Safety was always paramount before him. He drastically cut the training and maintenance budgets resulting in a less safe environment. He also a hired a bunch of ex military guys to run the facilities department. The head of the department T. Irby's comment when he learned of the death was something along the lines of casualties can be expected in any situation and that it was no big deal. Disneyland finally canned T. last year after his streamlining of maintenance at least partially contributed to the Big Thunder accident.
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:And as for accidents I hate how everybody is finding ways to attack Disney because how come we have loads of accidents today, but almost 0 in 1995.
That's not attacking Disney, that's attacking Pressler. He mismanaged the parks and BTMR is proof of that. If maintenance budget wasn't slashed chances are some of these accidents wouldn't have happened...
"See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve." - The Joker
But Timon everybody is blaming Disney because it is there fault. Paul Pressler was hired in 1994, he hired T. Irby to run the facilities/rides in 1995. T. Irby cuts back on training and maintenance. Suddenly accidents start exponentially increasing.
Connect the dots. The corporate culture of Disneyland at the time was responsible for at least two deaths and many more injuries. At least we can thank Disney for trying to fix that and return Disneyland to more of its roots under Ouimett/Rasulo etc.
Disneyfan is right - I think we can say that neither the Columbia or Big Thunder accident would have happened under the old system. In fact the California department of occupational health said so in there report on the Big Thunder accident. The accident resulted as a result of inadequate training of those who started up the ride and contracting out the maintenance.
Thanks for the info Mr. Toad. I had no idea that's how the story went. However I heard serveral stories similar to that. I heard that they closed Space Mountain for 2 years because it was getting so old they were expecting an accident to happen.
Fidget1234 wrote: .... they tell u to concentrate on the screen in front of you. dont close your eyes, dont look at the people next to you, just concentrate on the screen front of you so you dont think about the intesnity of the attraction.
Oh it's not so you don't think about the intensity. You'll flat-out lose lunch if you avert your gaze. Without a solid point to focus on your sense of balance is shot, you'll become instantly nauseaus and then you're in a quick downward spiral. No turning back at that point.
No thats not true I did "avert my gaze" and I felt fine.
Space Mountain was kind of a different animal in that I think the flaw happened before Pressler ever started.
Actually, the original problem was that the track was made to withhold enough weight at the time but barely. Well after they added a heavy sound system to the cars and people got a lot of fatter from the late seventies to the beginning of the century the track was no longer strong enough to handle the weight.
In that situation, the people who started up the ride one morning were heroes. A section of track had bent and it would have been very likely that the first fully loaded car of the day(if not a test one) would of gone off the track. While Disney has never confirmed this, I have seen the story in enough credible places to believe it.
indianajdp wrote:
Oh it's not so you don't think about the intensity. You'll flat-out lose lunch if you avert your gaze. Without a solid point to focus on your sense of balance is shot, you'll become instantly nauseaus and then you're in a quick downward spiral. No turning back at that point.
No thats not true I did "avert my gaze" and I felt fine.
Well, obviously not EVERYONE will heave. But those 500 warnings posted about telling you NOT to look away because you can get sick are not just posted around for the helluva it.
Can anyone who's been on that compare it to another ride at disneyland/DCA?
) she admitted it was nothing when it came to spinning! But what she didn't like was the when the controls come toward you since she's closterphobics. 
