Is Brother Bear good?
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Well I think that Brother Bear (along with Home on the Range, which I'm not ghoing to defend here, perhaps in another thread some other time) is a wonderful movie!
The animation is certainly as top notch as Disney does so there not really much point in elaborating there!
The story is very clever! I think it's the only Disney film, in fact there are hardly any stories like this where there is no villain, but everybody's the villain if you know what I mean. The villainous moments of the film come down to love! The hatred the characters show for bears/humans comes from love and fear. Both species view each other as the threat! The story I think is very refreshing and is certainly a winner!
I also feel the story progresses at a nice rate, unlike films like the Lion King which choppily jump from event to event, Brother Bear certainly has that feeling of being planned better. The events unfold more naturally and there is a sense of progression throughout.
I feel that a lot of people judge a film by it's box office figure and they think "oh it only made so much therefore it's bad" well I'm sorry but if you think that, go toss yourself off a cliff! American audiences did not take to it, but in Europe and other parts of the world this movie was a MASSIVE success, in some countries it is Disney's most successful movie EVER! It deserved a lot better treatment than what it got, and I believe it is truly superior to films like "The Lion King".
Also the fact that this film in "new" is against it! Older films have that "Oh it's a classic" drivel surrounding them, which means most people will watch them despite the fact they are inferior!
I would easily rate Brother Bear as one of the best Disney films, from the Best Decade! It is original, daring and mind opening. However most of the implicit story and true brilliance of this film, is probably way over the head of younger audiences! For audiences 16/18 and under it is nonetheless a brilliant film! Yet for those 18+ just like "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and some other films, the experience and maturity opens up a whole new field!
The animation is certainly as top notch as Disney does so there not really much point in elaborating there!
The story is very clever! I think it's the only Disney film, in fact there are hardly any stories like this where there is no villain, but everybody's the villain if you know what I mean. The villainous moments of the film come down to love! The hatred the characters show for bears/humans comes from love and fear. Both species view each other as the threat! The story I think is very refreshing and is certainly a winner!
I also feel the story progresses at a nice rate, unlike films like the Lion King which choppily jump from event to event, Brother Bear certainly has that feeling of being planned better. The events unfold more naturally and there is a sense of progression throughout.
I feel that a lot of people judge a film by it's box office figure and they think "oh it only made so much therefore it's bad" well I'm sorry but if you think that, go toss yourself off a cliff! American audiences did not take to it, but in Europe and other parts of the world this movie was a MASSIVE success, in some countries it is Disney's most successful movie EVER! It deserved a lot better treatment than what it got, and I believe it is truly superior to films like "The Lion King".
Also the fact that this film in "new" is against it! Older films have that "Oh it's a classic" drivel surrounding them, which means most people will watch them despite the fact they are inferior!
I would easily rate Brother Bear as one of the best Disney films, from the Best Decade! It is original, daring and mind opening. However most of the implicit story and true brilliance of this film, is probably way over the head of younger audiences! For audiences 16/18 and under it is nonetheless a brilliant film! Yet for those 18+ just like "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and some other films, the experience and maturity opens up a whole new field!
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There, there. I still agree with you on the rest of the 2000 movies.ichabod wrote:DisneyFan 2000 wrote:Ahh, that's why I love ichabod (even though he likes Home on the Range)!
Must... refrain... from... turning... Brother Bear... discussion into... Home on the Range... appreciation... thread!
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Some very good arguments, but you lost me the second you said that Hunchback was a good movie. I guess we just have very different tastes in our Disney.ichabod wrote:Well I think that Brother Bear (along with Home on the Range, which I'm not ghoing to defend here, perhaps in another thread some other time) is a wonderful movie!
The animation is certainly as top notch as Disney does so there not really much point in elaborating there!
The story is very clever! I think it's the only Disney film, in fact there are hardly any stories like this where there is no villain, but everybody's the villain if you know what I mean. The villainous moments of the film come down to love! The hatred the characters show for bears/humans comes from love and fear. Both species view each other as the threat! The story I think is very refreshing and is certainly a winner!
I also feel the story progresses at a nice rate, unlike films like the Lion King which choppily jump from event to event, Brother Bear certainly has that feeling of being planned better. The events unfold more naturally and there is a sense of progression throughout.
I feel that a lot of people judge a film by it's box office figure and they think "oh it only made so much therefore it's bad" well I'm sorry but if you think that, go toss yourself off a cliff! American audiences did not take to it, but in Europe and other parts of the world this movie was a MASSIVE success, in some countries it is Disney's most successful movie EVER! It deserved a lot better treatment than what it got, and I believe it is truly superior to films like "The Lion King".
Also the fact that this film in "new" is against it! Older films have that "Oh it's a classic" drivel surrounding them, which means most people will watch them despite the fact they are inferior!
I would easily rate Brother Bear as one of the best Disney films, from the Best Decade! It is original, daring and mind opening. However most of the implicit story and true brilliance of this film, is probably way over the head of younger audiences! For audiences 16/18 and under it is nonetheless a brilliant film! Yet for those 18+ just like "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and some other films, the experience and maturity opens up a whole new field!
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When I first read this title I immediately thought of Dan05! 
Anyways the music is extrodanary, the characters are very colorful(especially Rutt and Tuke
) and the animation is fabulous.
Overall it's no Lion King, but it's certaintly a good movie that I reccomend seeing!
Anyways the music is extrodanary, the characters are very colorful(especially Rutt and Tuke
) and the animation is fabulous.Overall it's no Lion King, but it's certaintly a good movie that I reccomend seeing!
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