Toy Story 3

[Lionbat]

In toy story 3 are the characters going to be like models or cartoonish ?

[Luke]

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[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

I was looking through the internet and I found this article from Variety Magazine:

"Disney Consumer Products chair Andy Mooney said Tuesday that "Toy Story 3" is projected for a summer 2008 release.
The third installment of the animated franchise will be the first produced by Disney without Pixar, which originated the saga of a boy's toys that have lives and adventures of their own.

Disney and Pixar broke off talks about renewing their distribution deal last year but have recently begun preliminary negotiations again. The deal expires with "Cars," set for release next summer.

If Pixar and Disney cannot agree a new contract, Disney retains sequel rights for the previously completed pics.

The "Toy 3" release news came in a presentation at the Licensing Intl. trade show in Gotham, during which Mooney focused on conglom's products push.

Mooney revised DCP's 2004 retail sales figure to $18 billion, up from its "quite conservative" estimate of $15 billion. DCP is forecasting $21 billion in sales for 2005, $3 billion of which will be from the Disney Princess line, which includes Cinderella, Snow White and other animated ingenues.

Disney Princess line has grown 300% over the last three years, and the 2005 projection would be a 40% rise from the previous year. Sales will be goosed by the first DVD release of "Cinderella" this October.

Mooney also emphasized DCP's push to attract males with the release of Pixar's "Cars" and the continuation of the "Toy Story" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchises. The sequel to "Pirates," subtitled "Dead Man's Chest" and set for summer 2006 release, is being promoted via ubiquitous large banner ads at the Licensing show.

Banners also hype Disney's December release "The Chronicles of Narnia," which Mooney also pushed.

Franchise fork

Mooney said CEO-elect Bob Iger and his exec team have split franchises into two categories to better prioritize them.

The "companywide" franchises, such as Mickey Mouse, Toy Story, Winnie the Pooh, Power Rangers and Disney Princess, will be developed by the entire conglom. The "multidivisional" franchises, such as the Muppets, Baby Einstein and Disney Channel's "That's So Raven," will be confined to certain divisions.

Mooney also said Disney ceased negotiating with possible buyers of the Disney stores in Europe last week and will continue to operate them "for the foreseeable future." He added that the stores have been profitable for five years and have been less of a burden than the U.S. outlets, most of which were sold to the Children's Place.

Asked about the possibility of Disney licensing films from Studio Ghibli, the Japanese animation studio that produced the new Disney-distribbed pic "Howl's Moving Castle," Mooney said Disney does not have the rights to the studio's properties but that "it's something we would very much like to entertain."

[SuicideSeaside]

I hope Disney does a good job with Toy Story and not muck it up.

[Pasta67]

I hope they do well with it to. Doesn't Disney realize they're taking a huge risk with this?

Best case scenario: The movie is spectacular, PIXAR's happy, Disney's happy, the audience is happy, we're happy.

Worst case scenario: The movie flops, PIXAR's rep is damaged, Disney's rep is damaged, Disney loses a bunch of money, audience is not happy, we're not happy.

I'm personally not fully supporting this PIXAren't movie as of yet. It's going to take a great deal of quality to do that for me.

[Isidour]

I vote for the worse case scenario.

Toy story have been used too much already, and I don´t really look a point of making such sequel.

If they do it, ok, we wil watch it and know what will be the Diseny´s future, but if they don´t maybe they realized it was a very risky business

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

Actually I think this might save Disney's and Pixar's relationship!

Think about it! Even Pixar thinks Disney's cheapquels are awful. Maybe Disney can blackmail Pixar since Disney can still use Pixar. Disney will say, "Come back with us or we'll ruin your movies with cheapquels".

Well maybe not exactly like that, but maybe Pixar will agree to come back with Disney and make the sequels good. Plus Bob Iger said he had a good conversation with Pixar which might mean a new contract.

[yankees]

I think 2 is enough in my opinion

I will prrobblay see this one tho.. it will probblay be good but not as good as the others.

Tom Hanks and Tim Allen returning??
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[Isidour]

Well, certanly Pixar would protect its integrity as CGI animation studio, but I doubt this could be enough reason for such decition.

As someone posted before:

Why bother on squeezing the old stories until the´re ruined when new and more fresh stories can be made?

Onemore thing:
When will be Eisner´s last laboral day?

[Pasta67]

Timon/Pumbaa Fan, that's pretty funny. To save Disney/PIXAR, all we need to do is blackmail!

Tom Hanks has expressed thought in returning, but I don't think he knew PIXAR wasn't involved when he said it.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

I think 2 is enough in my opinion

I will prrobblay see this one tho.. it will probblay be good but not as good as the others.

Tom Hanks and Tim Allen returning??

Tim Allen? Definatly! Tom Hanks? Not sure.

Even though Tom Hank really wants to be the voice of Woody and loves the Toy Story movies, he doesn't like Disney cheapquels. SURPRISE!!!! At one moment he said, "I will only do a sequel if Pixar is involved". But recently he said he's interested. So the answer is a maybe.

The only people who are definatly not returning are:
Jim Varney(who shockingly passed away)
and
John Ratzenberger(who won't be apart of any sequels unless Pixar's involved)

[SuicideSeaside]

I don't see Tom Hanks voiceing Woody in a cheapquel. He's too great of an actor...he wouldn't want to mess up his resume. Every movie he acted in was good....I think. I loved Forrest Gump. Plus, he's going to be in the Da Vinci Code.

[Disney Duster]

I heard that because Pixar was aking for deals that would not favor Disney at all, and would actually end up huring them, that making sequels to the Pixar films might be the best thing to do for business. Of course, it's really only the best thing to do if the sequels are good.

[lord-of-sith]

I will see it, a lot of others will see it. The only question is will we like it? I doubt people (excluding people like us) actually pay attention to if Pixar is involved, if they pay any attention at all. So, no financial problems with this, but reputations are what's at stake.

[MickeyMousePal]

I don't think Disney will mess up the Toy Story series.
I can't wait to see Toy Story 3.

[Disney-Fan]

I won't be seeing it because it's done for the wrong reasons. I mean, how can one company *morally* see it fit to steal another's work of art and mess with it just to make the other company mad and make them return. It's just sick in my opinion.

[yoda_four]

I will see it, a lot of others will see it. The only question is will we like it? I doubt people (excluding people like us) actually pay attention to if Pixar is involved, if they pay any attention at all. So, no financial problems with this, but reputations are what's at stake.

Seeing as how this is supposed to be a DTV for Disney, of course the film won't be seen by an audience as large as if it were a theater-release, I still believe more people than just soccer moms and toddlers will view it. I can imagine grandpas, college co-eds and just regular people picking it up off the shelf simply because they see the words "Toy Story" and "New Sequel" on it, moreso than say Tarzan II would. The Toy Story franchise has a very large audience out there that recognize the movie, it's characters and it's catch-phrases (to infinite....). No doubt in my mind that it could become the highest-grossing DTV to date.

Now as to whether or not people notice Pixar's name..... I think the general public does now know that most of Pixar's films are "Pixar" films and not Disney's. They are however adjusted to seeing the Disney logo along side Pixar's. Now because the Disney logo would be on the front of the box, I think people wouldn't make too much a deal of it. From the point of sale, it would not matter. It will peak the curiosity of many an adult and child once that hopping lamp does not appear before the movie. I would assume at that point and after some quick research is done (also depending on how "advertised" the "TS without Pixar" story is), some people would be either just "how can they do that?" or "that's weird, I wonder what happened" (mood might also vary depending on how the film turns out).

But, I really have a feeling that none of these scenarios will happen because Pixar and Disney will become step-siblings again. Steve Jobs has said publicly that he's had good talks with Bob Iger, and things are going well. (Jobs has done crazier things with his companies... :cough: MacIntel :cough:) I feel that Iger is eager (pun intended) to get Pixar back, and that Jobs is willing to go back a little on his out-there production deal.

Long story short: I think a new deal will be struck soon enough. Disney will stop production on the Pixar-quels and Pixar will either continue with the sequels or end them. I also have a feeling somehow Pixar's new deal will have them retaining legal rights over all-their movies and characters.

[PatrickvD]

I'm amazed at how many people think this is actually going to see the light of day... hello, this secret lab #2 that is producing Toy Story 3 is nothing but a way to get Pixar back. If Pixar doesnt get back, they'll just make sequels to sequels for every single Pixar film, wich will seriously damage their reputation. But since Iger.. appears to want to be different, I'm sure he'll close it down, put a big smile on his face and strike a new deal with Pixar. I mean, closing down studios and shutting down productions is what they do best: the secret lab, the travesty that was "Wildlife", the Orlando studio, Kingdom of the Sun, Home on the Range and pretty much every single international Disney studio except for Australia. When it comes to shutting things down, Disney doesn't care about a few million bucks.

[Fee-Hee-Hee-Eny]

I would really like to see a sequel, but without Pixar it might not be the best.

And I like the blackmail idea.

[TimonRoxMySox]

I'm not so sure about this.....

I mean, on one hand "Toy Story 2" was an exceptional sequel. I actually liked it more than the first.

But on the other hand, it could be yet another attempt to market off of a successful original and sequel.

I'm on the fence on this one, I just hope it is good.