The Worst Disney Sequel!

Prince Phillip · Post by **Prince Phillip** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:59 pm

Well, that's good to hear, if it's true, but that doesn't mean that they are going to stop trying to do sequels in 3D, anyway, I think this whole 3D thing just sucks, and I hate the way Disney saeems to be going down the toilet bowl... I hope they are able to turn things around eventually, but if not, atleast I will have my treasure sets, and all the animateed movies I have grown up with and loved....

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:08 pm

Reports are that Chicken Little will be CGI, but look hand drawn - similar to the Giant in The Iron Giant did. (I suppose this will be a more advanced form of Cel-Shading seen in many modern computer games). It's quite easy to do with angular characters - see the Iron Giant and B.E.N. in Treasure Planet for examples, but much, much harder to do for rounded organic characters.

Why would they want to do this? Especially when CGI movies are supposed to be hot right now. Why try to make them look handdrawn?

Bacause as stated, once a model is built in a computer, it can be reused with little effort - and so can animations like walk cycles etc.

Disney want to make a virtual cast of characters, a virtual lot of sets and a virtual store of props. That way they can quickly make sequels, television series the lot. All the hard work and cost is done in the film's production and the sequels and television series will require significantly less time and effort. This is why Jimmy Newtron had a movie made before the television series - the bulk of the costs in setting up the characters and locations for the television series were absorbed into the motion picture budget.

I'm sad if this is what Disney is planning. 2D handrawn art deserves to live on at Disney. But I take comfort in the knowledge that Dumbo II and Bambi II have been rethought. It appears, contary to some people's expectations Disney isn't putting out any old crap as part of their sequels. Also I think Disney is determined to get the 3D-2D look as close as possible to the original.

I cry for the jobs and skills lost, but I will not comment on the suitability of the process until Disney are happy with it and release their results to the public. But it will have to be very, very good to convince myself and a lot of other people it is the way to go.

herman_the_german · Post by **herman_the_german** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:19 pm

I can proudly say I don't own any and actually have I've missed all of them!

IggieKuzco · Post by **IggieKuzco** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:56 pm

Does anyone know what Dumbo II was supposed to be about? i mean it sounds horrible! Haven't they ruined enough disney classics with sequels??? wasn't that the point i was trying to make with this whole thing?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:06 pm

Prince Phillip wrote:The only sequel that I have seen from the above list is Junglebook 2 which I liked better than the original!

I've seen a couple, but have only liked Return to Neverland and Jungle Book 2. The rest I don't care about.

poco · Post by **poco** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:12 pm

I've been contemplating on weather or not to pick up Jungle Book 2. Part of me wants it because I like the first movie so much (i still haven't seen part 2 yet). I just dont' want to pay 19.99 for it at the stores. I hope it will go down in price, otherwise I won't get it. It's not worth it if everyone is saying that it's not all that great. (minus a few people).

IggieKuzco · Post by **IggieKuzco** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:19 pm

I've been contemplating on weather or not to pick up Jungle Book 2. Part of me wants it because I like the first movie so much (i still haven't seen part 2 yet). I just dont' want to pay 19.99 for it at the stores. I hope it will go down in price, otherwise I won't get it. It's not worth it if everyone is saying that it's not all that great. (minus a few people).

Take my advice poco... this movie isn't worth 20 bucks. its not even worth 5 bucks. and if someone offered it to me for free id contemplate whether to take it or not.... get my drift?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:19 pm

poco wrote:I've been contemplating on weather or not to pick up Jungle Book 2. Part of me wants it because I like the first movie so much (i still haven't seen part 2 yet). I just dont' want to pay 19.99 for it at the stores. I hope it will go down in price, otherwise I won't get it. It's not worth it if everyone is saying that it's not all that great. (minus a few people).

I wouldn't get it for 19.99 either. I'd wait until it's 14.44 at Wal-Mart, and it's bound to be there soon. If 20,000 Leagues, Love Bug, orginal Vault Disney and Rescuers are only 14.44 the others should drop soon.

Oh... little off topic, but has anyone seen Great Mouse Detective or Tuck Everlasting around, especially cheap?

Prince Phillip · Post by **Prince Phillip** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:20 pm

Well, I know that I am wauting for the Platinum of JB1 to come out, cause I want the SE version that is sure to follow... I hope that it is a 2 disc set

...................seriously!!!!

poco · Post by **poco** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:32 pm

Haven't even seen Great Mouse Dectective around in a while. Tuck is still 19.99 here in Arkansas. Hope that helps. If i see it cheaper, I will be sure to tell everyone (like I always do!)

Leonia · Post by **Leonia** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:42 pm

I've seen only two Disney sequels -- Pocahontas II and Cinderella II, but while Pocahontas II was a rare sequel that exceeded the first, Cinderella II...ugh...

To this day I still don't know why I watched Cinderella II. But I have a feeling Mulan II will be even worse than Cinderella II.

poco · Post by **poco** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:05 am

I don't know if anything could be worse than Cinderella 2. THAT was the worst i've seen so far.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:15 am

Mulan 2 actually sounds good. Mulan and Shang are preparing for their wedding, then the Mongolians (spelling?) attack, and of course, Mushu starts meddling...
As long as it doesn't rehash the first, I'm fine.

Then Mulan 3 is supposed to involve Mulan and Shang's daughter. At least we know Disney won't make her the reversal of her mother-I can see it now-femenists groups all over the world get mad because Disney does a movie about a girl who wants to follow the Chinese demands for women.

Leonia · Post by **Leonia** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:35 am

Prince Adam wrote:Mulan 2 actually sounds good. Mulan and Shang are preparing for their wedding, then the Mongolians (spelling?) attack, and of course, Mushu starts meddling...
As long as it doesn't rehash the first, I'm fine.

Then Mulan 3 is supposed to involve Mulan and Shang's daughter. At least we know Disney won't make her the reversal of her mother-I can see it now-femenists groups all over the world get mad because Disney does a movie about a girl who wants to follow the Chinese demands for women.

Say WHAT?!

*bangs head on desk, repeatedly, followed by self-punching and more head banging against the wall*

I don't know what to say. It hurts my mind to even think about it. I don't even want to know what will happen if Mulan II/III gets released in China, but I fear all hell will break loose.

Say all you want, I'm pretty much biased against Mulan II/III.

STASHONE · Post by **STASHONE** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:09 am

Aside from the second Aladdin dtv release (many years ago), Ive never seen a Disney sequel in my entire life and dont plan on watching any.

thomashton · Post by **thomashton** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:46 pm

Ok Guys,
Tarzan and Jane, worst pseudo sequel,

Cinderella 2, worst ever!

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:50 pm

Jungle Book 2! they changed all the personalities of the original and made it more kiddie!

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:13 pm

The Hunchback of Notre Dame II, by far. Every horrible cliche you expect to find in a DTV movie was there, and the animation is the worst I've ever seen on a Disney "film". The characters look like a mix between anime and fan art, and though both of those have good things to them, the mix is horrible. Not to mention all of the songs are wince-worthy and the climax was the ultimate in anti-climactical.

jesus_brer · Post by **jesus_brer** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:16 pm

trazan &jane just scared me

Choco Bear · Post by **Choco Bear** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:48 pm

JUNGLE BOOK 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate it with a passion

, thruout the whole movie i just wanted shere khan to eat mowgli i was actually hopping that that would happen but i dothink john goodman did a good a baloo o ya i did like the vulchers to some extent

o ya cindy 2 was pretty crappy they could have much more with it i did like like the final story very heart warming a tear jerker

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