Goofy Treasures question

[TM2-Megatron]

When playing The Big Wash (last short, chronologically, on disc 1), does anyone know why Disney would choose to display the screen saying "A Fully Restored Animated Classic", and then move to the 90's style Disney logo (like the one before Prince and the Pauper or Runaway Brain)? This couldn't have been the way it was originally shown. A similar 90's Disney logo appears in front of "Goofy and Wilbur, as well, and that short was from '39. It seems odd.

[Jack]

That's not a Goofy Treasures question, that's a good Treasures question! They slapped the new logo & text in front of older cartoons they attached to movies in theaters during the '80s. Not sure why they kept them for the Treasures release though - maybe those versions of the shorts are the only ones they had available.

[Disney Guru]

That's not a Goofy Treasures question, that's a good Treasures question! They slapped the new logo & text in front of older cartoons they attached to movies in theaters during the '80s. Not sure why they kept them for the Treasures release though - maybe those versions of the shorts are the only ones they had available.

lol, I think you are exactly correct Those were probablly the only prints of these classic cartoons, left in existance.

[deathie mouse]

Just a little dethi note here, most filmic material transfered to video is not done from prints if it can be helped.

Prints are the end-quality product, like vinyl records were from original master tapes. "Fully restored printS" are made from earlier pre-print material which being earlier generations is better in quality than the several dozen or hundred prints made from them.

Fully restored for a Goofy Technicolor cartoon would mean struck from the original Technicolor sequential b/w negative (like the Fantasia of the 90's) so they should have the Technicolor Negative AND the Interpositive made from it AND/OR the Internegatives made from that used to strike the general release prints. Hopefully they haven't lost those and be in need to use a lonely surviving print!

In case of missing/replaced material it could be that the new replacement is spliced onto the original negative material or intermediates (could be the separations, interpositive, iternegative, CRI, etc) for the new prints/versions to be struck for theaters, and the original material cut out be misplaced or discarded by the time of the video transfer.

Many cartoons seem to have ended up missing their segments through the years in their various recyclings. Who knows if 50 -70 years from now the only Lion King material available is with Morning Report, opening logo, and new crocodiles?


As I said in a similar thread recently, errors, laziness, most recent print available/or in better shape, time is money, etc etc etc. Maybe the old logos could be cloned from another print and edited in place of the "non authentic" ones, etc, but wasn't done for time/budget reasons, whatever.

[2099net]

I think the most obvious explanation is, being as they already had restored prints available, they didn't pay for an additional restoration for those cartoons.

Due to their limited pressings I doubt the Treasure sets will ever actually make money (even when overseas sales are taken into consideration). I see them as being by-products of a restoration program at Disney. i.e. "The films are being restored, so why not release them?" Films recentley restored would not necessarily be part of this program.