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Please tell me the front of the bodice isn't shirred...
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I appreciate the originality in Belle's dress, but overall I dislike the dress and the Beast's suit. I'm thankful Cinderella's dress was way better, while still being original.
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More costumes on display;

* Belle's blue dress
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOGyBasg6Ko/

* Lumière & Plumette costumes (human form)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOHARg3BpbL/
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Sotiris wrote:The costumes look much better in person than in the publicity stills.

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Disney Duster wrote:I appreciate the originality in Belle's dress, but overall I dislike the dress and the Beast's suit. I'm thankful Cinderella's dress was way better, while still being original.
While Belle's dress is not as impressive as the one in the animated film, it works well for the aesthetic the film is striving for. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Cinderella's dress. While her dress was pretty (and kinda tacky at the same time :P ), it didn't really fit in with the rest of the costumes. It felt anachronistic and inconsistent with the film's overall production design.
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Sotiris wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:I appreciate the originality in Belle's dress, but overall I dislike the dress and the Beast's suit. I'm thankful Cinderella's dress was way better, while still being original.
While Belle's dress is not as impressive as the one in the animated film, it works well for the aesthetic the film is striving for. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Cinderella's dress. While her dress was pretty (and kinda tacky at the same time :P ), it didn't really fit in with the rest of the costumes. It felt anachronistic and inconsistent with the film's overall production design.
I agree with you Sotiris. Plus, why always compare this movie to Cinderella?

There's a new poster out as well (don't think anyone posted this one yet):
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOKKtrHA_Wy/
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Mmmadelon wrote:
Sotiris wrote: While Belle's dress is not as impressive as the one in the animated film, it works well for the aesthetic the film is striving for. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Cinderella's dress. While her dress was pretty (and kinda tacky at the same time :P ), it didn't really fit in with the rest of the costumes. It felt anachronistic and inconsistent with the film's overall production design.
I agree with you Sotiris. Plus, why always compare this movie to Cinderella?
I also agree. While I liked the costumes of Cinderella, they weren't period costumes and seemed more like fairytale costumes from someone's imagination .

The costumes of Beauty and the Beast on the other hand, look way more like period costumes. I like the complete look of this movie very much! Every things seems so right and very thought out!
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Disney Duster wrote:There was one new clip in the Japanese trailer. The exterior of the castle during the day!
Whoops, sorry.
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sweetjuliet wrote:More costumes on display;

* Belle's blue dress
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOGyBasg6Ko/

* Lumière & Plumette costumes (human form)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOHARg3BpbL/
I really like Lumière and Plumette's costumes. They are not only historically accurate, but very pretty. I also now like their enchanted object designs more. I think I am ok with Plumette's peacock look now. Now it makes sense. The feathers of the part that dusts are supposed to be her peacock feathers. The only thing is it may not make any sense since it is male peacocks that have such feathers I believe, and she is a female!
Sotiris wrote:While Belle's dress is not as impressive as the one in the animated film, it works well for the aesthetic the film is striving for. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Cinderella's dress. While her dress was pretty (and kinda tacky at the same time :P ), it didn't really fit in with the rest of the costumes. It felt anachronistic and inconsistent with the film's overall production design.
I feel Belle's yellow dress sticks out like a sore thumb in the rest of the costumes from this film. All the costumes seem to be historically accurate to at least somewhere in the 1700's. But Belle's yellow ballgown...I can't think of any picture I've ever seen where anyone in the 1700's had a dress like that in the slightest bit! As for Cinderella's dress, it was supposed to look different from everyone else's dress, like otherworldly and magical, and I don't find a bit of it tacky. If you think the butterflies were tacky, I find they were done just right, as her sleeves would look naked without them, it's like something needs to be there and the butterlfies on it look perfect to me. They also of course add the magical element and the metaphor for transformation into something more beautiful, as well as her father's love with his butterfly gift to her added to the love of her mother in the dress itself.
Mmmadelon wrote:I agree with you Sotiris. Plus, why always compare this movie to Cinderella?

There's a new poster out as well (don't think anyone posted this one yet):
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOKKtrHA_Wy/
Great poster! But it's not official as it doesn't have the gown Belle wears in the film. As for comparing this film to Cinderella, you have to admit these films have similarities.
sweetjuliet wrote:I also agree. While I liked the costumes of Cinderella, they weren't period costumes and seemed more like fairytale costumes from someone's imagination .

The costumes of Beauty and the Beast on the other hand, look way more like period costumes. I like the complete look of this movie very much! Every things seems so right and very thought out!
The costumes in Cinderella were indeed period costumes, just with some 40's, 50's, and fairy tale imagination mixed into them. If you looked at clothes from the 1800's you would see they are all very fitting, including and actually especially Cinderella's. As for Beauty and the Beast's costumes, I admit they all fit the period of 1700's they are supposed to except for Belle's yellow dress. It looks like nothing from the 1700's I've ever seen.

Seriously guys, I bet just Googling 1800's ballgown for Cinderella will show you how hers was accurate in shape and the part of the neckline/sleeves and such, but Googling 1700's ballgown for Belle will show you how very inaccurate hers is (and don't be fooled by some of the 1800's ballgowns that come up when you Google 1700's ballgown for some reason).

In any case, I find all the Cinderella costumes to just be better. More beautiful. Stunning.
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It seems the first image of Belle and Beast dancing that was leaked came from this book cover:

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Here are more photos of the costumes and props from the film on display:

http://beautyandthebeastmovienews.blogs ... es-on.html
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Were these promo shots done before filming or something ? As it looks like two different bottom halves of the dresses ... ?? Unless thats me being stupid, and they are in fact the same :?
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No, you are not stupid, they are not the same. It seems while the dress was in the process of being designed, before they filmed the film, they made some of these covers, posters, and other promotional art with a dress not yet finalized. So we are indeed seeing two different versions of the dress. The final dress for the film is the one you can see in the picture closest to the top of this page.

I must say, I really love a lot of the rococo art/designs in this film we've seen so far. In the enchanted objects, the windows, the pillars, the whole castle, and the parts of Belle's gown I actually like. I especially like the magic mirror, except it looks like the Beast smashed it. Now, I know that makes character sense that he would smash it to not see his reflection since he hates his Beastly reflection, but then the magic mirror...is kind of no longer a mirror. The magic images of the outside world no longer appear in the glass mirror but behind the broken shards on the mirror's frame. It's just something I thing was a wrong choice and dislike. But I am willing to be proven wrong on that. And I may be proven wrong about loving this film's designs because I have to see the whole thing to make that judgement. Oh, and I just learned another name for Rococo is "Late Baroque", so even though actual Baroque wasn't what this film looks like it will have nor that I think the original film had as both these films are set in the 1700's after the Baroque style, the whole "If it's not Baroque, don't fix it" joke can fit. Speaking of that joke, technically it means "If it's not this art style, don't change it to that art style", which would mean the art style, which in this case is Baroque, is bad. The joke never made any sense. Why would he say Baroque is a bad art style? And before you say, "It's a play on words. If it's not "ba-roke" as in "broke"." I get that. What doesn't make sense is that what the phrase literally means goes against what was intended. Cogsworth liked the Baroque style.

And how many of you guys are hoping the Beast/prince gets a NAME this time? Though even in Cinderella all we got for the prince was a nickname, "Kit"...
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Mmmadelon wrote:I agree with you Sotiris. Plus, why always compare this movie to Cinderella?

There's a new poster out as well (don't think anyone posted this one yet):
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOKKtrHA_Wy/
Great poster! But it's not official as it doesn't have the gown Belle wears in the film. As for comparing this film to Cinderella, you have to admit these films have similarities.
Yes, I do see the similarities between these films. But I sometimes feel, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you're 'just' bringing up Cinderella, or pointing out a difference between Cinderella and BaTB, to 'prove' Cinderella is a better movie than BaTB. Like I said: please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to offend you. But I sometimes just don't see the point in comparing these movies. (And I liked Cinderella btw, I thought it was a cute movie)
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Do you think we'll see a new trailer for the movie in January?

Cinderella had 2 trailers released both in January and February, respectively.
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Mmmadelon wrote:Yes, I do see the similarities between these films. But I sometimes feel, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you're 'just' bringing up Cinderella, or pointing out a difference between Cinderella and BaTB, to 'prove' Cinderella is a better movie than BaTB. Like I said: please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to offend you. But I sometimes just don't see the point in comparing these movies. (And I liked Cinderella btw, I thought it was a cute movie)
Well because the original Cinderella is my favorite film, of course I wish for both Disney versions of Cinderella to be the better movies. But I think the original Disney Beauty and the Beast is the best Disney movie. And I want this Beauty and the Beast movie to be the best it can be, too, and I am looking forward to it, and it could be a really, really good movie, better than either Disney versions of Cinderella. But I have to say I am disappointed with a lot of the things we've seen so far. From the creepy enchanted objects to Belle's weird letdown of a dress to Emma Watson's acting to the CGI Beast I hope will somehow put real emotion into the film, I just am not sure this is going to be good. I bet it will make sooooo much money, but personally I think I'll be let down. Anyway, the reason I brought up Cinderella's and Belle's dresses was because not just me but other people look forward to both and see them as highlights of both films, and people have been commenting a lot on both dresses and people here as well as elsewhere have already been comparing them or hoping the Belle dress would be better than Cinderella's or as great as or greater than Cinderella's. And people here were badmouthing Cinderella's dress.

As for Cinderella being a "cute movie", I feel the movie was way more emotional and dramatic than "cute".
Sicoe Vlad wrote:Do you think we'll see a new trailer for the movie in January?

Cinderella had 2 trailers released both in January and February, respectively.
Do you mean the trailer where it started with the Fairy Godmother talking about midnight, and then the trailer that came after that where it starts with Cinderella riding the horse and finding the stag? Cinderella had three trailers and so maybe Beauty and the Beast can!
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Is this spot new?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcqVi9vV0O8[/youtube]

I don't see any new footage, except from a very short clip of Emma smiling (also the thumbnail), around 0:48. It does say it's a Christmas spot, so that's why I thought it's new.

OK Disney Duster, thank you for your explanation. As for Cinderella being an emotion and dramatic movie: I don't agree with you on that part, but that's for the Cinderella topic. ;) Let's stay focused on Beauty and the Beast in this topic.
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Just wondering, will a Art of-book of this movie be released?
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Mmmadelon wrote:Is this spot new?

I don't see any new footage, except from a very short clip of Emma smiling (also the thumbnail), around 0:48. It does say it's a Christmas spot, so that's why I thought it's new.

OK Disney Duster, thank you for your explanation. As for Cinderella being an emotion and dramatic movie: I don't agree with you on that part, but that's for the Cinderella topic. ;) Let's stay focused on Beauty and the Beast in this topic.
Well, the spot is certainly not the old trailer so it's new. As for Cinderella, I feel so much during that movie, but if you don't, ok.
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