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She also now has her own twitter:

https://twitter.com/Maleficent

Also, having just said that, look at this! The French poster is much more intricate (still not overcrowded though) and extremely beautiful.

http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-mal ... nal-69841/
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Both posters are really intricate and not over the top which is exactly what I hoped for. Really amazing. :D

Still dissapointed that Paul Dini is uncredited for his co-writing in the movie though.... :(
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That poster looks like the same photoshoot as the magazine cover. I thought the side view they used for the magazine was gorgeous. I'm not sure if there's a clean version (without the magazine title/text) out there or not, but I wish I could find it.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:That poster looks like the same photoshoot as the magazine cover. I thought the side view they used for the magazine was gorgeous. I'm not sure if there's a clean version (without the magazine title/text) out there or not, but I wish I could find it.
Not the highest quality, but there you go
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I think this is my favorite photo of her as Maleficent so far. The new poster looks beautiful, and I'm super excited to see the new trailer, once it gets released.
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WillytheDino wrote:
Atlantica wrote:New poster:

https://www.facebook.com/WaltDisneyStudios
Ha, you beat me to it!

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Also, apparently there is a new trailer on the way! Yay! Do you remember that the original release date was for this month?
Rumors of the new trailer is supposed to have more footage of the christening/curse scene. I'm excited about it now! :D
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Sicoe Vlad wrote: Not the highest quality, but there you go
http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/31339 ... 380133.jpg

I think this is my favorite photo of her as Maleficent so far. The new poster looks beautiful, and I'm super excited to see the new trailer, once it gets released.
Thank you! Gorgeous.

I still don't particularly like the way they're doing the horns, but perfect casting.
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Musical Master wrote:Still dissapointed that Paul Dini is uncredited for his co-writing in the movie though.... :(
I may have said this before, but the WGA crediting process is apparently a real pain to go through. You actually have to go to a committee and prove you wrote a good chunk of the material in order to get a credit and it's a really complicated process. There are a number of examples of scripts where the proper writer wasn't credited. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory is probably the most infamous example. David Seltzer (who later worked on The Omen) re-wrote Roald Dahl's entire screenplay for the movie, but Dahl was the only one credited. Dahl hated the finished movie, but that made him even more irate as it made it seem like he wrote the material he despised so much.

There's a bit of controversy going on right now about the 12 Years a Slave screenplay, where the director is saying he should have co-writing credit, while the screenwriter is saying otherwise and the movie's producers are stuck in the middle of this feud. He was even open to giving McQueen a "story by" credit, but that's apparently not allowed for screenplays based on memoirs.
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Musical Master wrote:Still dissapointed that Paul Dini is uncredited for his co-writing in the movie though.... :(
I may have said this before, but the WGA crediting process is apparently a real pain to go through. You actually have to go to a committee and prove you wrote a good chunk of the material in order to get a credit and it's a really complicated process. There are a number of examples of scripts where the proper writer wasn't credited. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory is probably the most infamous example. David Seltzer (who later worked on The Omen) re-wrote Roald Dahl's entire screenplay for the movie, but Dahl was the only one credited. Dahl hated the finished movie, but that made him even more irate as it made it seem like he wrote the material he despised so much.

There's a bit of controversy going on right now about the 12 Years a Slave screenplay, where the director is saying he should have co-writing credit, while the screenwriter is saying otherwise and the movie's producers are stuck in the middle of this feud. He was even open to giving McQueen a "story by" credit, but that's apparently not allowed for screenplays based on memoirs.
You're right. I think that while Dini did a good chunck of the revisions, maybe Woolverton did her own revisions to her own screenplay, thinking that it still wasn't good enough. A majority people won't know that she had help due to the credits, but we do know that Dini had a hand in this, Woolverton also.
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Still, I hope the revisions involve Maleficent's big battle with Phillip (with all the powers of Hell aiding her, dragon form and all) and Phillip doing the spell breaking.

Seriously, though, if Maleficent doesn't turn into a dragon, I'm sure a whole lot of fans will be pissed, myself included. :evil:
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Of course she will, its in all of the promotional toys etc.
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MeerkatKombat wrote:Maleficent is a villain - why is there a need to make her like-able?
She already was like-able, in my opinion. More reason why this whole thing gets my goat. :(
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Atlantica wrote:Poster now in English:

http://www.impawards.com/2014/maleficent_ver3.html
I really love that version of the poster. It has a mysterious tone to it.
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The still of Stefan interests me. Plus Knotgrass, Flittle, and Thislewit have good CG on them.
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ebilein wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:If you read the whole leaked script, you would know the original animated version was not nearly as unfaithful to its source material (the fairy tale) as this films is to its source material (the Disney animated film).
I haven't read the leaked script, but I think in order to have "Maleficent" be more unfaithful to the animated movie than the animated movie to the source material... well. There wouldn't be a lot of story left. I mean, come on, as much as I like the animated movie... what about the 100 year long sleep? That's one of the most iconic things I remember from the Grimm version from back when I was a kid. (I know the animated movie's said to be based on the Perrault version, but cutting off the whole ending with the monstrous mother-in-law also isn't faithfulness-to-source-material per se...)
I think even without the 100 year sleep the animated film is closer to the Perrault and Grimm story than Maleficent is to the animated film. I think Maleficent could be closer by keeping the curse to die and Philip's kiss of true love. How? Well I have my own ideas of Maleficent pretending to be evil to allow the story to play like the animated film and save Aurora...
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Disney Duster wrote:If you read the whole leaked script, you would know the original animated version was not nearly as unfaithful to its source material (the fairy tale) as this films is to its source material (the Disney animated film).
Well that depends on which version you are referring to. I was thinking the version involving:

- SB pricking her finger because she's never seen a spindle before
- 100 year sleep
- prince reading about the legend of SB
- prince finding SB, tries and fails to wake her up. Sleeps with her anyway
- SB gives birth to twins in her sleep
- One of the babies looks for SB's breasts, instead suckles on her finger and unlodges the needle
- Wakes up, prince comes back. prince takes family to half ogre family.


But the point is there are many different versions, and Maleficent will simply be another to add to the list :)
I meant that the animated version is closer to the versions it based itself on (I should have specified the Perrault, and some of the Grimm's versions) than what Maleficent is based on (the animated ones based on those lol). The version you mention may well be not so much a version but the first time the tale was recorded. That version is Sun, Moon, and Talia. The princess' name is Talia and the King (not a prince) took her and his children to his first wife (who he basically cheated on with the sleeping princess, and that's why she wanted to eat Talia and her children.
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Disney Duster wrote:I meant that the animated version is closer to the versions it based itself on (I should have specified the Perrault, and some of the Grimm's versions) than what Maleficent is based on (the animated ones based on those lol). The version you mention may well be not so much a version but the first time the tale was recorded. That version is Sun, Moon, and Talia. The princess' name is Talia and the King (not a prince) took her and his children to his first wife (who he basically cheated on with the sleeping princess, and that's why she wanted to eat Talia and her children.
Perrault also has the cannibalistic plot, but it's the mother-in-law (cf. http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/La_Belle_ ... (Perrault) - "il [the prince] la [his mother] craignait quoiqu'il l'aimât, car elle était de race Ogresse, et le roi ne l'avait épousée qu'à cause de ses grands biens"; later the prince's mother says: "Je veux manger demain à mon dîner la petite Aurore"; "Je veux manger à mon souper le petit Jour"; "Je veux manger la Reine à la même sauce que ses enfants."); in fact, that part makes up about 1/3 of the story (ca. 1.200 words out of a total ca. 3.400). But I think I know what you mean; the animated film didn't change evil characters into good ones, or the other way round; I still think, however, that the animated movie is very unfaithful to the source material (which isn't a bad thing, mind you, but kind of baffeling because they explicitly said in the opening credits it's based on Perrault's version).
Disney Duster wrote:Well I have my own ideas of Maleficent pretending to be evil to allow the story to play like the animated film and save Aurora...
I'd like to hear them, unless it's too off topic for here. :)
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You do have a point the whole second half of Perrault's story is gone, and I also get your point about the opening credit saying it's for Perrault's only. We still disagree how faithful it is to the source material, but that's ok.

My idea for how it would go is King Stephen is all human, and so is Aurora. The Good Fairies are good. Maleficent is a wingless fairy and is simply outcast and thought to be evil because she is outspoken, even about things the fairies don't want to hear about (like she tells it like it is), she doesn't agree with everybody, she fights with people over things, and she takes over the throne and doesn't let anyone enter the human realm once she learns human Stephen, a man she once had a romantic relationship with when he visited her realm, now wants to get revenge on Maleficent and control the fairy realm because Maleficent dumped him for Diablo because her heart loved Diablo more when she met him (and he was originally a human, not a bird. Falling in love with someone who's really a bird is gross lol So she just turns him into a raven to help do stuff for her). King Stephen himself hurts Maleficent (though he would never kill her) in battle. But she powerfully wins against him. Or Stephen is the one who dumped her and he heard complaints from his villagers that the now Queen of the fairy realm was causing ruin and destruction (because she was thought to be evil by everyone so she decided to go with it, in anger), and so Stephen drugs her and takes her staff. But she magically makes a new staff and the staff he took loses its power, or disappears, or goes back to her. Or he wants control of her realm because he and his people fear the power of the fairies, which she learns on a visit to him, which is why she becomes queen to protect the fairies and Stephen takes her staff just to get her power. She magically makes a new staff and the staff he took loses it's power, disappears, or goes back to her.

If you don't like any of that, and it's ok if you don't because I was just writing that to try and fit the leaked script into the animated movie, here's what I would most change: Maleficent curses Aurora to die, before the sunset of course, not midnight. Just like in the script, she watches Aurora, not because the fairies don't care, but just because they are incompetent, and she grows to love her and undoes her curse. But when the fairies take her back before sunset and their gift is going to make her prick her finger, Maleficent, who Linda Woolverton forgot can appear and disappear really fast, hence she needs no wings, is already too late because Diablo tells her right at sunset, not flying to her in time. So Maleficent remembers Phillip was the man Aurora met in the woods. She knows that if she presents Phillip to the castle, they won't trust her, they'll think it's a trick. So she takes Phillip to her realm, chained up, and leaves his hat at the cottage or the castle so the fairies think to look for him at the palace that Maleficent took over. Then the story happens just like the animated film, but this time the audience sees Maleficent pretends to be evil and tries to stop them so that they will believe Phillip is the right one. Or if they take Phillip back to the castle and Stephen doesn't trust Phillip because he came from Maleficent's domain (maybe because before this, in the battle, Maleficent made what looked like Queen Leah go to Stephen and then turn into a creature to wound him, and he narrowly evaded that. Or in battle he gets to her castle and she holds him powerfully but says she captured Queen Leah and if he stops she'll let her go, so he stops and back at the castle fake Leah goes to kiss him but he sees in a mirror her hand turning into a claw to scratch him and he throws her off, as she turns into a creature, which he then kills), she knows she has to go to the castle and majorly pretend she wants to stop them by transforming into a dragon and being killed for them to all believe Phillip is the one for Aurora. She dies and Phillip does the kiss and undoes the curse. The end
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Huh, that sounds less good than they way I thought of it before. If you don't think any of those ideas could work, tell me, because even I have trouble thinking they could lol.
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According to the official twitter account a new trailer is going to be released tommorrow! And it will likely be the full theatrical version.
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AcCooper20 wrote:According to the official twitter account a new trailer is going to be released tommorrow! And it will likely be the full theatrical version.
Can't wait! :D :D
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