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I liked that this trailer focused more on the story, and that it barely showed the Princesses for a change. Now I'm more convinced this movie could be good. There were also some Easter eggs in it:
https://twitter.com/DisneyDude_1971/sta ... 6651012101
https://twitter.com/MissThemyscira/stat ... 0401426433
https://twitter.com/TheDisNerdz/status/ ... 8771397632

A new poster has also been released today and Disney has revealed some new characters and their voice actors. Here are also some of the articles about the film released today:

Behind the Scenes of Ralph Breaks the Internet with Rich Moore, Phil Johnston, and Clark Spencer
https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2018/09/20 ... k-spencer/

How Oh My Disney Became a Key Location Featuring the Disney Princesses in Ralph Breaks the Internet
https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2018/09/20 ... -internet/

How Ralph Breaks the Internet Created Its Epic Disney Princess Scene
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/featur ... cess-scene

How the Hilarious ‘Ralph Breaks the Internet’ Disney Princess Scene Came to Be
https://www.slashfilm.com/ralph-breaks- ... ess-scene/

‘Ralph Breaks the Internet’ Will Follow in the Footsteps of ‘Zootopia’ and Tackle Social Issues
https://www.slashfilm.com/ralph-breaks- ... net-story/

20 Things to Know about ‘Ralph Breaks the Internet’, Disney’s ‘Wreck-It Ralph’ Sequel
http://collider.com/ralph-breaks-the-in ... e-details/

‘Ralph Breaks the Internet’ Filmmakers on Moving Beyond Nostalgia with the Sequel
http://collider.com/ralph-breaks-the-in ... -johnston/
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This trailer was better considering that the princesses were barely in it. And we got a flash of Felix and Calhoun which is more than anything else we've gotten.

Love how they aren't even trying to hide the princesses now. The poster literally has them front and center with Grumpy and Eeyore shamelessly tacked on.
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Ughh that cringy floss dance. Are they gonna dab too?
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After criticism, Disney is going to alter Tiana's complexion.
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That's so lame, she looks fine. Disney keeps proving themselves to be spineless when it comes to fake internet outrage.
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First Merida's redesign, now this. I wish Disney would listen to more legitimate complaints, for example how the rest of the princesses are treated in the movie and general DP franchise such as the redesigns in the clipart and the parks. Wish that could create an outcry that Disney would respond to.

And frankly, if they're going to take the time to darken Tiana's skin, they might as well do so for Pocahontas as well since I saw social media was buzzing about her too. Especially, since Pocahontas literally gets whitewashed by Disney outside of this movie, both in clipart and even in the parks where usually a Caucasian girl is playing her. I've noticed a double standard that Disney gets very afraid when they're called out for racism against blacks, but I seldom see the same response when it comes to their treatment of Native Americans. The fact that Song of the South has essentially been written out of existence but Peter Pan is allowed to keep "What Makes the Red Man Red" intact is especially puzzling to me.
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Is the poster really similar to the Lilo & Stitch marketing campaign ? Especially with the Princesses / Classic characters looking annoyed ....
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D82 wrote:The song is not great, but not bad either in my opinion.
It's better than "When Can I See You Again?" by Owl City from the original, though that's not saying much.
“[The internet] was a threat to the arcade. It was going to change their way of life,” said Johnston of this original idea. “And [Ralph] wanted to wreck it.” This story ended up evolving away from this concept about three months later, just before Moore and Johnston began work on Zootopia.
This early idea sounds way more interesting than the story we're getting. There were more possibilities for drama and theme exploration with that plot line.
Characters art director Ami Thompson and head of animation Kira Lehtomaki conducted their own research to ensure that the Princess avatars were faithful representations of the classic animated Princesses.
If that was their goal, then they failed miserably.
Kyle wrote:That's so lame, she looks fine. Disney keeps proving themselves to be spineless when it comes to fake internet outrage.
Agreed. Tiana wasn't very dark-skinned in the first place. Have those people even watched the movie? And of course, none of them has a problem with the princesses neither looking nor acting like themselves.
Atlantica wrote:Is the poster really similar to the Lilo & Stitch marketing campaign? Especially with the Princesses / Classic characters looking annoyed...
Nice catch. I didn't make the connection until you pointed that out.
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First of all: After thinking, I 100% know what Ralph and Vanellope are running away from AND WHO the twist bad guy is! Beware, HUGE spoiler and do not zoom into that shot of them escaping because it's obvious after you look carefully:

It's the Ralph clones from this book cover: https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Wreck-Ral ... e+internet

Thus, RALPH, yes, RALPH is the bad guy. He is his worst enemy!


And that must be why Ralph sees Double Dan (LOVE him :lol: ): To make a new Ralph, so he can stay on the web with Vanellope

Anyway, the trailer is one big: FINALLY! We finally know the real story! And we finally finally see Calhoun and Felix, even for a second! :D I really loved the trailer. They made some great worlds, chemistry between everyone, and characters. The animation on Ralph has improved. He's much more expressive than the first one. (What is he doing in Sugar Rush if his game is open?)

I loved the new poster too, though I'm not a fan of the Princesses having "attitudes," even though it's a clear reference to the L&S poster.
Kyle wrote:Ughh that cringy floss dance. Are they gonna dab too?
Yeah, no. :huh: :huh: :huh: Unfortunately, it was what was expected with this movie. As long as they don't twerk, I can tolerate the hipness. The shot alone is getting huge flake on YouTube. See what happen when Disney tries to be cool? :headshake:
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“[The internet] was a threat to the arcade. It was going to change their way of life,” said Johnston of this original idea. “And [Ralph] wanted to wreck it.” This story ended up evolving away from this concept about three months later, just before Moore and Johnston began work on Zootopia.
This early idea sounds way more interesting than the story we're getting. There were more possibilities for drama and theme exploration with that plot line.
Honestly, that was I would expect with a WiR sequel with the Internet. Having the Internet shut down Litwak's because "no one plays video games" anymore and Ralph, Vanellope, Felix, and Calhoun traveling to the web to save the arcade. Real emotional heartbreak and it could have been WDAS's Toy Story 3. I wonder why they didn't stick with it. I like this plot, but the old one sounds better and more realistic.

I'm glad we didn't get the ones when Vanellope or Ralph get viral and have fame took over their heads. That would have been too obvious and cliche. Even though, I would like it better for Vanellope getting the spotlight over Ralph. Though she did take over his own movie :P
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The covers are gone :(

Adorable princess bookmarks with by far the best poses of the princesses: https://twitter.com/charamelpop/status/ ... 0509718528

By the way, I love how Disney/WSJ said they're changing Tiana to get more of a black audience to make money, yet they're supposedly about to commit franchise suicide with Frozen for lesbian Elsa and piss off lots and lots of parents :roll: :roll: :roll: If they can't take the heat of "whitewashed, mixed Tiana", I do not see how they will handle the backlash for Frozen 2 with THOUSANDS of parents
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disneyprincess11 wrote:The covers are gone :(
Are you sure? I can still see them if I click on the links.

Anyway, I'll try to post them in a different way:

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I like the earlier story better as well, but Disney must have felt it wouldn't sell itself without the princesses, stormtroopers, superheroes, etc. I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen any of the Marvel or Star Wars characters promoted for this film yet, but I guess Disney feels that nothing will be more groundbreaking than the princesses.

I will admit that their poses are quite respectful and authentic in the bookmarks. Although Cinderella still looks absolutely hideous.
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Sotiris wrote:
D82 wrote:The song is not great, but not bad either in my opinion.
It's better than "When Can I See You Again?" by Owl City from the original, though that's not saying much.
I thought later I should have clarified more. What I actually meant is that it's not bad for an end credits song by a famous contemporary band/singer. But that's not my favorite type of song and I don't expect much from them. The song's OK in my opinion, but I don't think I will listen to it much. The same happens to me with the songs from the first film or with "Immortals" from Big Hero 6, for example.

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Characters art director Ami Thompson and head of animation Kira Lehtomaki conducted their own research to ensure that the Princess avatars were faithful representations of the classic animated Princesses.
If that was their goal, then they failed miserably.
I was thinking the same when I was reading that article.

Atlantica wrote:Is the poster really similar to the Lilo & Stitch marketing campaign ? Especially with the Princesses / Classic characters looking annoyed ....
It's true! I also saw someone on Twitter compare it to the Suicide Squad poster.

disneyprincess11 wrote:First of all: After thinking, I 100% know what Ralph and Vanellope are running away from AND WHO the twist bad guy is! Beware, HUGE spoiler and do not zoom into that shot of them escaping because it's obvious after you look carefully:

It's the Ralph clones from this book cover: https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Wreck-Ral ... e+internet

Thus, RALPH, yes, RALPH is the bad guy. He is his worst enemy!


And that must be why Ralph sees Double Dan (LOVE him :lol: ): To make a new Ralph, so he can stay on the web with Vanellope
You may be right. That would expain why they first said there was no villain and then the opposite, because both things are true.
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The Japanese trailer with new footage!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MwlQaqR2r-4
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D82 wrote:I was thinking the same when I was reading that article.
I really can't stomach how the princessess look in the movie. Almost none of them look like themselves. I don't buy the reasoning they gave behind the redesign, that they needed to make them look like they belonged in the same world and fit the WIR universe because a) the princesses are supposed to look unique and different from each other because they're from separate stories, time periods, and settings and b) Calhun has a very naturalistic, traditional Disney-esque design and fits right in with the more caricatured characters like Ralph and Vanellope. I believe that they redesigned them because they couldn't pull off the exact same designs in CG and knew people would draw unfavorable comparisons to their versions.
D82 wrote:You may be right. That would expain why they first said there was no villain and then the opposite, because both things are true.
I hope not. Ralph was viewed as a villain his whole life and worked really hard to accept he's good and have others see that too and now they're going to take that all away by making him the actual villain/antagonist in the sequel?
disneyprincess11 wrote:The Japanese trailer with new footage!
This was the best trailer so far. While it used almost the same footage, the editing was much better.
DisneyEra wrote:More Princess advertisements :|
Here's a better look of the princesses on the poster.

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Sotiris wrote:
D82 wrote:You may be right. That would expain why they first said there was no villain and then the opposite, because both things are true.
I hope not. Ralph was viewed as villain his whole life and worked really hard to accept he's good and have others see that too and now they're going to take all away by making him the actual villain/antagonist in the sequel
It looks like to me that the cloning is good-intended, but goes awry. So the real Ralph isn’t the villain, just the clones. Or if the clones are just like him, they’re just too many to control

Grumpy looks great, by the way
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disneyprincess11 wrote:It looks like to me that the cloning is good-intended, but goes awry. So the real Ralph isn’t the villain, just the clones. Or if the clones are just like him, they’re just too many to control.
That scenario doesn't sound as bad but I still think it's not a very good idea. While having multiple Ralphs makes sense since he's a video game character, showing them in the movie takes away from his individuality. Not to mention presenting the Ralphs in a negative light or viewing them as a problem is thematically regressive.
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Sotiris wrote:Not to mention presenting the Ralphs in a negative light or viewing them as a problem is thematically regressive.
That's true. As if poor Ralph couldn't get crapped on enough. If he thinks almost destroying the arcade was bad and get flake on there, just he wait until nearly destroying the world in a way. The poster makes a lot of sense now :lol:
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