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I loved it! I truly adored this movie ...

I saw the first showing today here at my local Regal Cinema ... at 12:30 pm ...

No Goofy short either :(

Maybe the decided it needed to be tinkered with some more before releasing it to the public?
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i'm about to see it in a couple hours.
i had school and all today. i can't wait!

it's a shame though, it sounds like there won't be a goofy cartoon.
perhaps they'll show it with national treasure 2?
they'd better. i'm so not seeing college road trip..
no offense to anyone who is, of course. ahah.

what were the other previews besides national treasure?
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I saw it today and here are my thoughts, Be warned ye be, Thar be spoliers ahead, so hold on tight, with both hands if you please:

No Goofy cartoon BOO URNS!

The animated scenes are quite lovely. I noticed even better on the big screen that Giselle's coach is just like Cinderella and when she walks out she's so dilicate ad considerate. And then like some clown car dozens of forrest critters come out. :lol: The aspect ratio change was a good choice but durring the return scenes to Andalasia, they do not go back to 1.66:1 but they stay at 2.35:1, a desin flaw I hope is fixed for DVD.

Amy Adams is so wonderful as Giselle, because she is so perky and beautifully naive that her joyful spirit just lifts your moods! Animated Giselle is just like any other Disney princess so i had no problems with her character's personality. All I can really say is that she deserves the Oscar for best actress for this proformence.

Susan Seradon makes every scene she has worthwhileas the Villian. which is good since she isn't in the film too much, or at least not as much as i expected. er makeup asthe old hag in New York is great, and it is done by six time Oscar winner Rick baker, so I knew that there was some great talent put to work on her face. Her dragon form, as well as the climax, doesn't really hold togerther well. It happens so fast that there really isn't much to say about it. the design was lacking because they chose to giev the dragon human like eyes and mouth which aleficent didn't have in her transformation so it felt more like Shrek than classic Disney. Seeing Giselle stab (!) the dragon with a sword is great in showing her courage but the scene just could have been longer and more exciting.

Pip is quite cute and is really an excellent example of what CGI can do in film. He moves just like a cartoon characeter but looks just like any other chipmunk which is why he succeeds.

Nathainel is a good comic villain whose teeth I always kept noticing above all else.

Jodi benson had quite a long cameo which was a nice surprise as was the elevator music rendition of Part of Your World. Paige O'Hara was hard to regognize but easier to understand her voice. Julie Andrews makes a nice narrator. the refrences to past Disney films were quite obscure at times (like showing a clip from Fun and Fancy Free, whose goign to notice that besides the people on UD?) but they were right up into the end of the film which was good.

Indina menzel was good. but I really want hear her duet with James marsden now.

Edward, the character who has been featured in my avatar and signature for three weeks now, what do I think of him? Well, his personality bothered me at times because he was very over the top and not to rational at times which made him feel out of place compared to other Disney Princes like Phillip. On his own he was quite funny and handsome so he was an enjoyable character, maybe not my favourite in the film, but the fact that he didn't try first to go after Nirissa when she turned into a dragon made him look lame (his personality, his looks were still good
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the costumes the dancing, the singing, were all so great, I'd have to say this is my favourite film of the year. Take that Hairspray!
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Skellington or Sparrow wrote: perhaps they'll show it with national treasure 2?
Probably not. National Treasure II doesn't sound like it would mix with a cartoon short.

At any rate, I saw it. Twas sweet.
My biggest qualm with this very good film was that Nathaniel didn't end up with a nice girl at the end. Maybe Sam, who is Robert's receptionist?
Flanger-Hanger wrote:Nathainel is a good comic villain whose teeth I always kept noticing above all else.
I've got a feeling that I'll be defending this guy for some time now. Nathaniel wasn't a true villain, you know. He was a comic-tragic 'gray area character.' The teeth were noticeable, but hey, they were realistic! It's not like Andolosia has quality dental care, I'm sure. :P
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Prudence wrote: My biggest qualm with this very good film was that Nathaniel didn't end up with a nice girl at the end. Maybe Sam, who is Robert's receptionist?
He did! Remember the two pretty ladies at his side at the book signing? XD They did cut away from that bit just a little too quickly. I only barely noticed it and by the time I was laughing and thinking "He got the hot chicks!" the movie had turned to the next character.

When Edward was channel surfing and he flips to one channel and then flips back... There was a teensy bit of music I heard that I knew I recognized but couldn't put my finger on... and now I can't remember what it sounded like. Something with trumpets, I think. Does anybody remember? Something from The Three Caballeros, maybe?

(Or am I thinking of the Fun and Fancy Free reference?)
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saw it. loved it. gunna go see it again. :)
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I just got back from seeing it...


Be warned that there are some spoilers ahead:



I also think Nathaniel wasn't a true villain... more of a humorous henchman being who was being mislead by Narcissa the evil queen that she loved/cared about him...... But once he found out or rather figured it out on his own by watching a soap opera when the character in the TV during the program says "How can I love a man who does not even care about himself" and since that point he began doubting the Evil Queen's "love or feelings" for him

I loved the part where Nancy's Phone rings while she is getting married to Prince Edward in Andolaysia (I hope I spelled that right) and everyone looks confused..

Anyway there are some parts i must have missed (I.E. The Tree Calabraros on TV and Jodi Benson singing part of your world. in the Elevator..) I was too into the story to spot the little things... but hey that's why you go to see a movie twice.... to get the story first and then go a second time to spot the little hints...






Anyway I give it 12 out of 10 stars I loved the movie..I plan to see it again on Payday :D

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disneyboy20022 wrote:

Anyway there are some parts i must have missed (I.E. The Tree Calabraros on TV and Jodi Benson singing part of your world. in the Elevator..) I was too into the story to spot the little things... but hey that's why you go to see a movie twice.... to get the story first and then go a second time to spot the little hints...

It was kind of a muzak rendition, which is why you may not have noticed it. It took me a little bit to realize it was playing. I didn't notice when the Beauty and the Beast music popped up. It had to be pointed out to me.
(Is it Three Caballeros? I'm not sure. I know I recognized it from somewhere)
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purin wrote:There was a teensy bit of music I heard that I knew I recognized but couldn't put my finger on... and now I can't remember what it sounded like. Something with trumpets, I think. Does anybody remember? Something from The Three Caballeros, maybe?
It was definitely The Three Caballeros. I noticed it immediately and kept wanting them to cut back to the TV to confirm my thoughts.

Anyway, as is already obvious by the sentence above, I saw the film today and loved it. I can't say it exceeded my expectations (which were pretty lofty), but it definitely met them. Note that spoilers follow.

Pros

* Amy Adams. This movie was completely hers, in my opinion. She played Giselle with such sinceirty that I wanted to hug her everytime she appeared. She definitely makes you feel for the character and plays her beyond stereotype. Giselle was just adorably sweet and much more endearing than Snow White (stone me if you must), especially when she gave the old lady money. Plus, she's an excellent crier, to boot.

* The rest of the cast. I had to single out Amy because she impressed me the most, but the cast was uniformly excellent. Each actor obviously had a lot of fun with his or her part. Patrick Dempsey took me off guard because he comes across so harshly in the beginning (this is a good thing) and convincingly warms up to Giselle. Rachel Covey was surprisingly natural as Morgan. Susan Sarandon, James Marsden, and Timothy Spall all maintained the right balance between caricature and realism, not venturing too far in either direction in a way that would turn the audience off.

* The animated scenes. I got chills watching the opening because it felt like classic Disney again. The animation was so fluid and graceful, filled with warm and vibrant colors. The backgrounds especially were gorgeous. I really liked the idea of giving the animals children voices rather than giving them distorted adult voices (though that worked great for Cinderella's mice, but it was nice to see something different here).

* The Disney princess cameos. Jodi Benson was given more lines than I expected, and it was nice to see her play cynical instead of bright and bubbly Ariel. Paige O' Hara and Judy Kuhn's cameos were hilarious, as well, both of them making the most of their few seconds of screentime.

* The songs. "Happy Working Song" may just be the most hilarious song written for a Disney film ever. The audience with me reacted really well to it (though I had already watched it online countless times). "That's How You Know" is delightfully tongue-in-cheek in terms of presentation and is the most elaborate musical number I've seen in a film in a long time (since Moulin Rouge, probably). "True Love's Kiss", like the other animated segments, just felt so very much like nostalgic Disney.

* The shopping montage. It may be cliche, but I like shopping montages in films, especially when it's between an adult and child. This scene really made me root for Giselle to be Morgan's mother (even though I already knew the ending). The bit where Morgan explains to Giselle how men perceive women is priceless.

* The ball. When I first heard the soundtrack online, I thought the song "So Close" would make a gorgeous accompaniment to Giselle and Robert's dance, and I was glad to see that's what the song was for. The whole ball sequence may actually be my favorite live-action scene in the film (yes, dare I say more than "Happy Working Song" and "That's How You Know"). I just love the way it was shot, and it's most definitely the most romantic portion of the film for me.

* The Disney references. Outside of what we already saw in trailers, TV spots, clips, and featurettes, here are the references I spotted for the first time during the film:

- Animated Giselle looks through two sapphires the way Dopey does with diamonds.

- The lobby of Robert's firm plays "Part of Your World" while Giselle admires the aquarium.

- The soap opera Paige O'Hara appears in has "Beauty and the Beast" for its underscoring.

- The Three Caballeros and Fun and Fancy Free play on Edward's hotel TV.

- Morgan has a Cinderella storybook in her room.

- The end credits feature visual references to Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Sword in the Stone, and The Little Mermaid (I think there were a couple more).

- A slew of character names are references, but these I saw already from IMDb. They include Nancy TREMAINE, Robert and Morgan PHILLIP, Mary Ilene Caselotti (the TV news reporter, named after the three Walt princess actresses), Phoebe and Ethan BANKS, and Angela (the character Paige played, probably a reference to her Beauty and the Beast co-star).

- Two bits which may or may not be references that we've seen before in ads: first is Giselle's tumble down the vortex, which may be an Alice in Wonderland reference (if her gown inflated and she had floated instead of fallen, it definitely would've been). The other is Giselle and Robert sliding down the building shingles which could be a Hunchback of Notre Dame reference.

Cons

* The climax was weak. It needed to be more action-packed and frightening. I never felt any danger at all during this, and while I'm sure Narissa's demise is a tribute to the way dozens of Disney villains have died, I would've liked to have seen a different spin on it. The way it was handled felt kind of cheap. EDIT: After making this post, I checked DarkHorizons.com to see what movie news was up for today. They had an interview with Amy Adams, and she had this to say about the climax: "But also doing the last sequences with the dragon [was challenging], it initially was a much longer sequence, so I spent a lot of time wet in the rain in a harness hanging off the sword trying to climb, which I guess terrified the kids too much." Well, that explains why it's all over as soon as it's begun. Disney edited it down for the kids.

* Idina Menzel did a good job as Nancy, but it was disappointing how little screentime she had. For her to be Edward's match, she should've had as much screentime as him. A scene or two between her and Giselle would've been good. The two of them barely interacted.

* What happened to the other Disney princess actresses (Ilene Woods, Mary Costa, Linda Larkin, Lea Salonga, Irene Bedard, and Ming Na)? There were so many extras in this film that it should've been easy to find roles for them (for example, either Ilene or Mary could've played the old lady on the bus that later tells Giselle she saw Edward; any of the other women could've played the woman filing for divorce, etc.). Were none of these people available?

* Too few songs. I always consider a musical to have five or more songs. While this film has five, only three of them are sung by characters (I realize Nancy and Edward had a duet cut from the animated ending). Susan Sarandon can sing, so Narissa should've gotten a number. Don't get me wrong; the songs in the film are great, but for this film to be claiming to be a return to form, it barely qualifies as a musical.

* Speaking of songs, I don't like that they ended the film with Carrie Underwood's "Ever After." It's not a bad song, but I felt that since the film opened classically, it should've ended classically. I would've liked to have the Disney Chorus return for perhaps a reprise of True Love's Kiss during the ending montage.

All in all, it was a wonderful film and has already become one of my favorite Disney movies. I'd give it four stars out of four or (if you want to deal with specifics) a 9 out of 10.
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was the caspian trailer shown???
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rs_milo_whatever wrote:was the caspian trailer shown???
Unfortunately, no. I was so sure that Disney would attach it to Enchanted, but once again they miss a perfect opportunity. There's a good chance it'll be with National Treasure next month, though.
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that's awful!!!
i was looking forward to that, but i'm not sorprised they didn't...
to me the perfect time for the trailer was during pirates 3, i'm pretty sure they weren't done though.

its down to two options for a premiere of the trailer: national treasure or water horse
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Prudence wrote:
Skellington or Sparrow wrote: perhaps they'll show it with national treasure 2?
Probably not. National Treasure II doesn't sound like it would mix with a cartoon short.
it's in front of National Treasure 2, Disney confirmed already.
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Okay,in Zazzle Disney Inkshop they have Giselle in the Disney Princess section,take a look your self:
http://www.zazzle.com/collections/disne ... 9937478667
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Wow, Zazzle has an insane amount of Princess clip art, some of. I wonder why the Disney Princess only uses a handful of princess images when they have loads of already drawn art (and artists to spare) at its disposal.
PatrickvD wrote: it's in front of National Treasure 2, Disney confirmed already.
Whaaaat? But, it would have the most "classic Disney" effect with Enchanted and I really, really don't feel like seeing National Treasure 2 (and I'm DEFINITELY not paying $12 just to see a Goofy short). I guess putting it with a more adult movie would give it wider access and tell people Disney's not just for kids, but... I guess I'll wait (or maybe sneak into a theater just for the beginning short).
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Did anyone else notice that Pink Elephants on Parade could be heard on the TV to? I also remebered a screen shot where Edward and Giselle were seen buying the Hot Dogs and tha must have been trimed like the climax so there is definately stuff for deleted scenes on the DVD. I agree with Disney Kid that the relationship wasn't explained enough in the movie, but if are going to add the song for Edward and Nacy to sing together than it would help.
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I like Goofy in front of National Treasure 2. It will reach a bigger audience (Enchanted will do good, but it won't make nearly as much as NT2)
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I was just listening to the Enchanted Suite and there was a song I didn't recognize in the film, so could that be the song "Enchanted" that may be put on the DVD? Or am I just getting it confused with someother song?
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:I was just listening to the Enchanted Suite and there was a song I didn't recognize in the film, so could that be the song "Enchanted" that may be put on the DVD? Or am I just getting it confused with someother song?
the Enchanted suit starts with That's How you Know, followed by Happy Working Song, True Love's Kiss, So Close and Ever Ever After.

just those 5 songs.
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OMG! :shock: people,check this out!:
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And here,look yourself:
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I told you she's a Disney Princes!!!.
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