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I saw it earlier. Probably one of the first times I've seen a Disney film the first day it's released. But I knew the crowds would be out over the weekend and didn't want to wait until next week. Thankfully the theater (the huge IMAX theater I went to) was practically empty during matinee hours on a school day--just as I hoped would be the case.

SPOILERS GALORE DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED

Thankfully, I ended up enjoying this film. Not on par with my favorites--Frozen (and its sequel), Raya, or TP&TF--but it's probably the next one after those for me. I feel it's more imperfect than they are. Probably close to tied with Zootopia. Still, it has a good core and message. I didn't think I was going to care for it much until "We Don't Talk About Bruno." That scene is where the movie lifts out of boilerplate and starts to function. I guess the best part about the scene / song is how it involved the whole family instead of how they were segmented in the scenes prior with the movie hampered by the need to explain who they are, what their power is, etc. etc. Without that song, I probably would've still liked the climax and so on, but it would've been treading water for way too long until you get there. Up to that point, I think the only moment that stood out to me was the flashback to Mirabel as a little girl with her door fading spliced with Antonio receiving his gift. I know all the modern princesses have to have cutesy child versions of themselves, but Mirabel's child design is the only one that even comes close to how adorable child Moana was. Seeing her so cute like that with the curls (and I think ribbons in her hair?) having it turn into the worst day of her life, when everyone started to look at her the same way she later learns they had looked at Bruno. "WDTAB" definitely makes Bruno out almost like he was greater and more mysterious and terrible than the reality for sure. :lol: And they treated Mirabel the same way, almost as if she was an infection, almost like the grandmother (and Isabela vicariously because she took her cues from the grandmother) suspected Mirabel did have a power, a negative or harmful one. You can envision a future where Mirabel, broken off from the family the same way Bruno was out of bitterness over the way she'd been treated by them, being talked about them all the same way, as if she was more terrible and detrimental to everything than she actually had been.

I pretty much knew what was going to happen before it did (not because I read spoilers, just because family films can be predictable). Still, they managed to hit the emotional beats without being too heavyhanded. I loved loved loved the scene where Mirabel finally airs it all out with the grandmother, that felt very real. I knew from the start that the grandmother was the real problem. She was too focused on "trying" and works, which is antithetical to faith (faith being the source of the miracle). You can't "earn" blessings in that way. And the scene with Mirabel and the grandmother by the water was also well-done, it highlighted how much the grandmother had voluntarily put on her own shoulders over time out of grief, feeling she had to "earn" the miracle she'd been freely given by working to protect the candle because her husband sacrificed his life for her. Sort of her trying to reciprocate that love he had for her and show how much she loved him (to honor his memory) that unintentionally made everything hollow and wrong. I admit I cried several times throughout the second half; when Mirabel cuts her grandmother with her words v. when she takes hold of her hands by the river. Sort of a metaphor (to me) that you can't fight anger / hate / fear (all of which the grandmother was feeling towards Mirabel) with more of the same (and it was bitterness, however true, Mirabel was giving voice to), only loving the other person even when they've failed you and/or don't deserve it can fix things. The message of the short that played before the film was well-matched with the film itself, too, I thought.

I liked most of the characters in the film, and as much as the stuff with Luisa and Isabela felt a little trite, IDK, it worked for me. *shrug* I sort of came in expecting to like certain characters over others, and left feeling the opposite of what I thought I would. I did like Isabela and the grandmother alright by the end of it all, but not as much as I had expected. Antonio left no impression on me at all, and the aunt with weather powers and her husband were just sort of there, whereas I loved both Camilo and Dolores. I thought the latter would be very annoying and snotty, but was happy to be wrong. I also liked Mirabel, Luisa, and Bruno. Mirabel's father was cute. Her mother's design still looked too young to me. That said, I thought the character was fine, and liked that she was aware of the way the grandmother treated Mirabel. Still not too crazy about Mirabel's design.

As for the soundtrack, well... I did like it, more or less. It's below Moana overall, that's a definite, and it does have that same quality as Moana's soundtrack where many of the songs feel sort of like background music-quality to me (I'm thinking about "We Know the Way" and "You're Welcome"). The only two songs I really, really liked were Luisa's song and definitely "We Don't Talk About Bruno," the latter of which was the best scene in the movie along with being the best song. Luisa's song was a great deal like something you'd expect out of The Greatest Showman guys who worked on the live-action Aladdin with Menken. While it was fun, mostly because you were getting a surprising depth and unexpected turn with the Luisa character, it felt sort of like a pop song in a way; I enjoyed it in spite of that. "Waiting For A Miracle" also reminded me of TGS composers--imitating the way "Speechless" had Jasmine singing in a frozen moment. Unfortunately, whereas I found "Speechless" incredibly pretty and addictive to listen to, I didn't care for "WFaM" very much... It just didn't work for me. I don't think the actress for Mirabel's singing voice was impressive enough to carry a moment like that one, but even if that hadn't been the case, the lyrics / melody didn't really hit the mark to me. I'm surprised at that, considering "How Far I'll Go" was fine; I thought Miranda would at least pull off a serviceable one of those here. The opening song--which I think of as being one of those "Belle" / "The Bells of Notre Dame" / "The Gospel Truth" type songs that introduce all the characters and plot to the audience--was okay. Not bad, not incredible. Isabela's song was sort of in that same area--not bad, but nothing special. The lullaby that Pedro sings over the flashback at the end was probably my favorite after "Under Pressure" and "WDTAB."

I'd rank the songs as:

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno
2. Surface Pressure
3. Dos Oruguitas
4. The Family Madrigal
5. All of You
6. What Else Can I Do?
7. Waiting on a Miracle
8. Colombia, Mi Encanto

Looking at the previous comments before mine, I see "Surface Pressure" will be divisive. At least we all will (hopefully) agree on "We Don't Talk About Bruno" being the undeniable highlight here. I love how they overexaggerate, Pepa describing Bruno having a "mischievous grin" which sounds unlikely it was true, Camilo trying to scare Mirabel as an older cousin would do to a younger one, Isabela's striking and almost haunting lyrics, Dolores's initial lines being creepy (how she associates him with the sound of sand) and her later ones about being thwarted in love sounding very poignant especially for having followed Isabela's recitation about how everything would line up for her in life. Kudos to way Dolores's and Isabela's lines are sung, as if they've pondered Bruno's words over and over for years; Isabela sounds almost confused by his prophecy for her or in awe of how lucky she must be (part of her resigning herself to do what is "perfect" in order to help the family as a whole).

Thankfully, the B2G1 sales are still going on at Amazon and Target for me to buy the soundtrack It's not worth full price, but for $8-ish, yeah. EDIT: Of course it's pre-order only. :roll: Why wouldn't they have the soundtrack ready to release physically the same time the film is out instead of a month later? :lol:
Sotiris wrote: Here are some spoiler-free tidbits I found interesting from the 'The Art of' book.

• The film is set in the 1900s.
• The portrait of the man on the cover of 'The Art of' book is not Pedro but Agustin from an earlier version of the story set in 1950s. In that version, Agustin was a patriarch who found the Encanto where he built a magical home.
• In an early version of the story, the protagonist was a young woman from present times who received a magical doorknob that transported her to an unexpected world.
• At one point, Casita was an extension of Abuela and not a character with its own personality.
• At one point, Camilo was going to be an angry teen instead of the jokester he is now.
• At one point, Pepa's power was to be indestructible and she had a daredevil side to her.
• At one point, Isabela had a dorky suitor that came from the city named Bubo.
Interesting. A few spoilers in my reply here (just saying as a heads up not to read): The part about a magical doorknob seems like they kept it in a way with Mirabel being handed the doorknob at the end of the film. At the dinner after they all tell her about Bruno, Alma does use Casita to control Mirabel at one point. I like that it's separate from her though and representative of the candle / butterfly. There's a religious significance to that for me. They never go there and mention anything religious, but I'm not sure how the candle makes sense unless you assume it's from a divine being taking mercy on Alma in her moment of need because of her faith? They probably changed Camilo because they figured they had enough characters with a hidden underbelly to their personality they were keeping hidden (Isabela, Luisa, the grandmother, Mirabel herself) that they didn't need to overdo it. Isabela's suitor likely became more handsome after they decided Dolores would end up with him. I assume the Dolores plot must've came later than Isabela's since they might've thought initially to make Isabela's suitor horrible to amp up the fact she's only doing it for the sake of the family, not out of genuine feelings or attraction.
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Sombr ~ "homewrecker"
Megan Moroney ~ "Beautiful Things"
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It looks like Encanto is going to be a hit.

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I knew those previous predictions about an opening weekend of $20-35M for Encanto were ridiculously low and unrealistic. :roll: The industry hasn't been too good recently at predicting Box Office openings and guessing the audience reaction and is sure to make no exception when it comes to animation.

I saw the movie and am released to say it really feels to me like a true authentic product of Disney animation! and by that I mean more in a way like the Disney movies of my childhood... is to me the best one since 'Frozen'. (--> The pace, the atmosphere, the way the music helps the story moving forward and how they are illustrated: it's getting great! ..and does make me feel like I was watching something from the Renaissance.. And yes, despite its modern aspects!.. Now can you ask for a better compliment ? ^^ :lol: By the way I understand why most of you didn't feel charmed by the soundtrack: ..but wait until you watch the way it is used in the film.. it is absolutely thrilling! in addition of helping the story being told and to quickly trigger new actions) I feel like it is going to become a very common remark on the Internet, but Luisa's song Surface Pressure is just mind-blowing (but that is not the only one here and to me is at the same level and getting very close in its structure to what makes Hamilton brilliant, while thematically sending some good solid Let it Go vibes... :o. Actually that's is how I'd summarize it with mind spoilers: imagine what happens if 'Let it Go' meets 'Hamilton'.. and you'll get 'Surface Pressure'!
My only complain would be the lack of a great climax. I do miss these ones so much, something a la Aladdin or The Lion King.. There is an emotional climax (with very similar colors to the PatF one^^) but it still feels like there's something bigger and larger missing before that I'd say. Yet logically, for this to happen, it would have been needed to make Bruno an actual villain which would tell a different story and give a different message at the end. It is also a bit of a shame they haven't showed more rooms =)! ...as I know the Disney artists were developping more that the 2/3 ones that were presented in the final movie. Oh well, who knows..? Nothing is lost for good at Disney ;-)
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I forgot to celebrate how this film was a further break from the buddy roadtrip structure. Raya still relied it to a degree, but involved a large cast around those two as well who all had a significance in the end. This one is pretty much Mirabel leading the story by herself surrounded by a similarly large cast of characters. The film is similar in being an "investigation," like Zootopia in a way, rather than Mirabel doing much traveling.
Clindor wrote: But logically, for this to happen, it would have been needed to make Bruno an actual villain, which would tell a different story and give a different message. It is also a bit of a shame they haven't showed more rooms =)! ...as I know the Disney artists were developping more that the 2/3 that were presented in the final movie. Oh well, who knows..? Nothing is lost for good at Disney
I can definitely imagine a version of the film where Bruno is the villain--showing what Mirabel could've become if the rift was never healed or resolved the way Bruno's wasn't. In that alternate take on the character, perhaps he would have reached a point that after everything they put him through he would have started to /hope/ the vision came true. In a villainous version of the character, he would have been listening to them all in order to take joy in the "fall" of the family, perhaps interfering unknowingly with Mirabel's attempts to figure out how to fix the problem.
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Sombr ~ "homewrecker"
Megan Moroney ~ "Beautiful Things"
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Overall with this one I intend to support the film a few times in theaters as long as I may enjoy it :) I won't wait until its December 24th release on Disney+ to re-experience the whole thing ^^

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NB: Also good relief with the characters in the final product! I have been worrying with so many characters some got brotched or sometimes a bit inconsistent, but no! Surprisingly they succeeded in making each character leave an impression that feels unique to the character (and not like another iteration of a pre-existing character or an over-used trope.) Their screentime was used properly
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Disney's Divinity wrote:I can definitely imagine a version of the film where Bruno is the villain--showing what Mirabel could've become if the rift was never healed or resolved the way Bruno's wasn't. In that alternate take on the character, perhaps he would have reached a point that after everything they put him through he would have started to /hope/ the vision came true. In a villainous version of the character, he would have been listening to them all in order to take joy in the "fall" of the family, perhaps interfering unknowingly with Mirabel's attempts to figure out how to fix the problem.
I also really imagined how the visions could be a trick too ^^ ..also used there to trigger one version of the future once shared with the concerned people.. one way to conceptualize how things work in the WDTAB sequence this way Bruno could have chosen which alteration of the future was more favourable to his potential ambition/plot... ^^ Eventually seems the writers went in the totally different direction.
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My opinion might be skewed because I had to do something outside and I decided to watch it in the spur of the moment, making this my first time in a theatre since Onward (it was supposed to be Philosopher's Stone, but I didn't get brave enough to watch in a completely filled screening :lol: )


Let's ignore the fact that I almost cried seeing Mickey on the screen and probably only didn't because I didn't want to wet my mask Encanto scratched a very specific Disney itch for me. Don't get me wrong, I generally like everything WDAS has been doing recently, but this felt somehow so much Disney than everything they did since, I don't know, a very, very long time. If I was to complain about anything, is the overboard... I don't know how to call it, "representation"? "Localization"? We got it, it's set in Colombia, we don't need literally a song saying how much Colombia is loved, just move on from that.


I tend to dislike whatever Lin-Manuel Miranda does but I actually loved the songs in Encanto. Dos Oruguitas, The Family Madrigal and Waiting on a Miracle especially. I would have cut Surface Pressure and What Else Can I Do feels a bit.. generic? Like it could have come from a cheap Disney TV Animation sequel, but oh well. They're still fine.


I got curious to see some scenes in 3D, but they weren't doing 3D screenings on my favourite theatre, which is a bummer.



Anyway, completely lovable characters (OH MY GOSH ANTONIO AND HIS GIFT) and I will certainly come back again and again to casita in the future
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https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... fcAK6PABd/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... keD_CvXYO/
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https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... 47H6qvEVS/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... VJ6e0PYPi/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... YHKTDPIQh/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... f5QyRvM1-/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... nhO_5vLuV/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... s6tZhJrnY/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... yMXI-FnNY/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... 8_reZMZ1n/
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https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... fRIXAPemx/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... zj9Imva2P/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... BC0Dmr8r3/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... dda1Vs5IZ/
https://www.instagram.com/dethancooper_ ... TNgssPT0B/

Darrin Butters
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1487931787208581122

David Stodolny
https://www.instagram.com/stodoestudios ... JUEe0BzQR/
https://www.instagram.com/stodoestudios ... KTBhXhONc/
https://www.instagram.com/stodoestudios ... M4VF2BiO_/
https://www.instagram.com/stodoestudios ... Pcqt4hdwk/

David VanTuyle
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CWsjWqVFKvK/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CXM4rB3M78j/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CX9sFhoF0UA/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CX9wdCelYb4/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CX9yI8UFZbV/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CX90NQTMxqK/
https://www.instagram.com/davidvantuyle/p/CY7kmtJsCuk/

David Woo
https://www.instagram.com/dwooman_art/p/CY18ivpPJ5w/
https://www.instagram.com/dwooman_art/p/CZICE5HOTR3/

Don Dougherty
https://www.instagram.com/get_a_laff/p/CXIpc6VrdT_/
https://www.instagram.com/get_a_laff/p/CXNqPNBrgNA/
https://www.instagram.com/get_a_laff/p/CXd9izKl5Vd/
https://www.instagram.com/get_a_laff/p/CYKW_-Iv1BG/
https://www.instagram.com/get_a_laff/p/CY41agDvsG4/

Erik Eulen
https://www.instagram.com/erikeulen/reel/CXUaDg3IaV7/
https://www.instagram.com/erikeulen/reel/CXhga5dJBTy/
https://www.instagram.com/erikeulen/reel/CYuYq-GK5Dp/

Germaine Franco
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1461997370409893892
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1484206116149989376
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1487922900845793280

Greg Verreault
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreaul ... ce51zJTmm/
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreaul ... mF_MJqxTe/
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreaul ... rLuk3KgRO/
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreault/p/CboOZIKLWVa/
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreaul ... WFlBBqsVj/
https://www.instagram.com/greg.verreaul ... oMoumKFxP/

Hyrum Osmond
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CYC3JTqpHGq/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CYUi_VEr4Qt/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CYj0J-4Pju9/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CY7PjvmASth/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CZQUMRyPd81/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CZcUtBLPWLH/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CZf3R-Aru49/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CZsMMGZucm_/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CaS2iJUr0so/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/Ca5FEKMJtOH/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CbFvSZysn5f/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/Cc3iRS-ut2C/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CnNLaeiviB3/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/CpoOrGfvDRr/
https://www.instagram.com/mrhyrum/reel/Ct5Xg0urTKM/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZz2JnNubuF/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaJAZAWPdqo/

Hyun-min Lee
https://www.instagram.com/emmingu/p/CW38ABlBA5A/
https://www.instagram.com/emmingu/p/CXMZQaGBzSO/

Ian Ruhfass
https://www.instagram.com/disneyanimati ... CRrF5BxiI/

James Richard Woods
https://www.instagram.com/jamwoods_/p/CWr0KY5r81x/
https://www.instagram.com/jamwoods_/p/CW39xQWhBLB/
https://www.instagram.com/jamwoods_/p/CXkXc_rLAoP/

Jared Bush
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1487878621905756165
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1487948863331700736
https://x.com/thejaredbush/status/1487948128095326210

Jason Hand
https://www.instagram.com/ccastrosmith/p/CWrIU9nvvX6/
https://www.instagram.com/disneyanimati ... snCO6B7hR/
https://x.com/DisneyAnimation/status/14 ... 0687195137

Jay Jackson
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson/p/CXMNI_9prA_/
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson ... PkAIdKCZ-/
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson ... U8FYRqcn8/
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson/p/CZanJjsJ8po/
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson/p/CeWaa_0FlUa/
https://www.instagram.com/jay_v_jackson ... y5y3pptEV/

Jenessa Warren
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYPtNymIFsP/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYPtT-ooWzf/

Jerry Huynh
https://www.instagram.com/herryjuynh/p/CWwpFKBJhQs/

Jin Kim
https://cosmoanimato.tumblr.com/post/668966262155640832
https://cosmoanimato.tumblr.com/post/669807731223511040
https://cosmoanimato.tumblr.com/post/670404372041187328
https://cosmoanimato.tumblr.com/post/670404381564338177
https://www.instagram.com/disneyanimati ... SHQMyhQps/
https://www.instagram.com/disneyanimati ... acLFnhxq6/
https://x.com/DisneyAnimation/status/16 ... 4583128066

Jonah Sidhom
https://www.instagram.com/jonahsidhom/reel/CYj-DE-hPFi/
https://www.instagram.com/jonahsidhom/reel/CdCJMdQlXpD/
https://www.instagram.com/jonahsidhom/reel/CdbVWAOJ2Zv/
https://www.instagram.com/jonahsidhom/p/CvxYMqFRfMY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZaPC6Oh0L5/

Jose Francisco Martinez
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CXmxVTPF5oS/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CXwobttv8jk/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CXzgsQ5vTcl/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CX1wtc2Pstj/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYCt0IsvIcK/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYFZnVzvxgD/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYIMeH3pnhQ/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYKUzcVPU5n/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYUqo9nP2gW/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYmued7v7uQ/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CYr8qVLPlvY/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CY4xFFRIfjc/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CZP4twFvgbX/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CZcwh7Bv-6R/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CZh05TuPtjc/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/CfKzFCRJQ2p/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/Cfr7hSTPWhs/
https://www.instagram.com/100creatures/p/Cgcr4EsPFwJ/

Jose Luis Velasquez
https://www.instagram.com/weecho_render ... Ckq9ZjDfj/
https://www.instagram.com/weecho_render ... KN4QtFVDQ/
https://www.instagram.com/weecho_render ... fn3-UpOiR/
https://www.instagram.com/disneyanimati ... xmUziJA8i/

Kai Martinez
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWwMxi-vurj/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... RxGs9gJ7b/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... 6_YGhpypi/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... J_3lDlsAb/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... Z09pDJHuE/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... 1vi-EpHJA/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez_ ... H5uIkJnNq/
https://www.instagram.com/kai_martinez__/p/CYJ_3lDlsAb/
https://www.instagram.com/disneymusic/reel/CZSAMMapwR9/

Kee Suong
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYUhSTHP169/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYpa3n3vxyH/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY1-yBFPQ-W/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZSIRH7vLGc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ2kZ3BvSVc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaQYkhPvukN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbJaBpdr2Eh/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbYcyXxPw_q/

Kevin Osorio
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYex83qPPjX/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYj5h-Uvjlg/

Laura H. Han
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXwl-L8vfm5/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY9eMwOlH5X/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZIO-b5F0Gz/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaDOZPAFoS5/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca8RpA4FXmG/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeJ5kUjFnpD/

Leticia Gillett
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYMsUWEvqTR/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYPfK8cvk5O/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccyb2XwPWJ9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nORWpaQr/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc6Wb8tPGy0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdZfVSQJUgJ/

Lior Lev
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWr5uA4s-Yv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXMh0ztPfsv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXb32z5P3Bf/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXjoE9IIChB/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYM8YeLPoE1/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYUaWMJPnoq/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZH_RGfPoNg/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZKcHWBuhmt/

Lorelay Bove
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTnTT35lGIB/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWVBNAVFF7J/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWnBfpXrXga/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWsPLnVL7Qb/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWuE0xLpWFg/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWyTwh2J7sp/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW1oHeMPwxQ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW2eZqWrDT2/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3bv_epoIV/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW4vUvuF6Q8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW7bLC3FSE8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW9DFV_BL6p/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW_ZHUJv_Fm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXEp0jQPdrU/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXIZNChrC39/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXMDmMjpjUm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXaOrR5LMqA/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXgv2whJ706/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXiH69xrjbq/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXunPHgFz76/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX4fgDHv4iD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYGE695rBss/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYMgtTFprz9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYNxawQrrR7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYax0-ZLWFQ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYqDv2Lrm4i/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY2Xd7PPWpm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5gRBsuuGN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZLmHBKLl9x/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZbJI76LcZC/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZtMzwvLN-t/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ8XuC-LL9E/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaHCO0Ar1MR/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaWdGAyLfl8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cal6bLVrTAi/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca2RlMblPdY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbS-g2nviLm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbebmWRucbO/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbl8iCbLDpm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb_8IDhr5zv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcE0gynLy3w/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcJ7NX5LY8R/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcW3l0lLfbA/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CceqH-Zrh_R/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcwkwQXrKx3/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdxKgGFONQB/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd44_7MuWpm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeDBazNrXPp/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeolGEwAvol/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbMGim9L5zN/

Louis Jones
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXc2EyvL7I5/

Mac George
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXFy5DuLrvc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXKoSllFwoo/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXSAAVxvjM7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXh6ZcLLZle/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXpnbtArjDw/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXpn2gXLz5N/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYSOa7vPFd8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYfeUYyFsb2/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnhrsALKAo/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYr6jvpvNeu/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZySRCrLFOV/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ7jEDrPucx/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaFd7UHp7ji/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaOSKC2L4kz/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaQV-H3v96U/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbaz90AvZWv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CboFNTfpl84/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb05lfkPpyW/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb83rrPpS21/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccyv7PQPssN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdEOhYjv-Ed/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd__abUJOYA/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeMYIeRPBQm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeRKozpFsgz/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfcnWHxvUX_/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfp3h1BrjX1/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgJGwJVuxj_/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgLnnNKLQYC/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg-EE_nPsaW/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg-FrknL61R/

Manu Arenas
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZQBbAdtHcl/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZRZz8gtCDi/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZSZlnvtNSW/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZU5O5rNz_f/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZhwVjYPONv/

Mara Ancheta
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYmn9gHPg6d/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ5MTxOvxRq/

Marie Tollec
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZianPFJYWB/

Mark Henn
https://twitter.com/thejaredbush/status ... 5325290498

Mark Kennedy
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWqji36J5ws/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtSvsQPuD7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtSxspPVJ0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWymiVsPC7l/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWyrkx8vS1m/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW1RkELhsUV/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW9HZW5hFdz/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXCe6tAIfgO/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXCfdMcIUx7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXEoochvxoJ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXEuM1CP2Ci/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXHmFVIPkHC/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXHmqiivA14/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXPPQbbrmRY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXUJkxvP2iG/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXWnuE8vqmV/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXcQHoVvHyj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXg0fv5PNLk/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXg0x-2ve9E/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXt4jeEPvg1/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXwLsgGJgYm/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbLno01vxBk/

Matthias Lechner
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZphIBLv4pL/

Meg Park
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtWvUTvt8I/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWyY8_3vj4M/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWyayi6vACJ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3e19kPXbS/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW6HiyKPdeD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8s-WZveqx/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW_QAHuP-6_/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXB8HVkP6O_/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXEk2zyvmVj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXJshqWPq9T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXMOHdAJZjC/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXO4B4-vR4u/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXRtncEPUzd/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXRtwQAvghD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXg7qkuP2iH/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXkCEZtvX7f/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX4hQd5vAKN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYmiauoveSv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-CAtYvA0X/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZZ-Nr_Pp_7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbYKQFjvJre/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbf4qtDvJYv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CewvixTPJyi/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ce_28k3PdwZ/

Mehrdad Isvandi
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWrwpy_LsUj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW6l6x8Prcw/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW7mdgvLwLU/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW-L0V0LR6G/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXFXPzClWh1/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXHCq3BPdQD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXK8D1ELjMq/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXfo0X4Ld4X/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbYi_WNBnZO/

Michael Franceschi
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYppeGZpgLP/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYurRUkp6Q8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5Wo54rn0Y/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZCsxazPGHy/

Michael Herrera
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXMW9oApwko/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXMYS7fJ_Hv/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYCLw0_rpd3/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYCMisCrtau/

Michael Woodside
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWBPc4jp9my/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWD2z72pOw6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWO7ZEDPp4J/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWTXLD8PzMH/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWYa605p0uc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWezUxMF9FK/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWn-QTIAOI2/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzGkb-vdBh/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW6HrCegwWF/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8xb8WPdtw/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXPg_16LfeZ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXbiXwQlLkd/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXeZoqdPcFx/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX31d5olttB/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYHom_Xvltg/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYaOLbMKUkf/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYbyaDRKADI/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYjuW9cqVfZ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYmTGTwPmr-/
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Clindor wrote:I knew those previous predictions about an opening weekend of $20-35M for Encanto were ridiculously low and unrealistic. :roll: The industry hasn't been too good recently at predicting Box Office openings and guessing the audience reaction and is sure to make no exception when it comes to animation.
I think part of why box-office analysts had been more conservative with trying to figure out how Encanto would do at the domestic box-office is because of how other animated films have done during the pandemic. Domestically, "Space Jam: A New Legacy" is the highest-grossing animated film of the pandemic era with $70 million, followed by "The Croods: A New Age" with $58 million, "The Boss Baby: Family Business" with $57 million, "The Addams Family 2" with $56 million and "Raya and the Last Dragon" with $54 million.

Worldwide, "Demon Slayer The Movie" is the highest-grossing animated film of the pandemic with $452 million, largely based on its performance in Japan as the show is enormously popular there. Then "Legend of Deification" with $240 million, entirely due to the Chinese box-office. Among family films, the highest-grossing animated film is "The Croods: A New Age" with $215 million, followed by "Space Jam: A New Legacy" with $162 million, "Tom and Jerry" with $132 million, Raya and the Last Dragon and Paw Patrol The Movie (both with $130 million) and "The Boss Baby: Family Business" with $128 million.

Children have now gotten the approval to get vaccinated, which will certainly help "Encanto" at the box-office. Disney has also been smart in barely advertising that the movie will be on Disney Plus in less than a month. So I think, especially based on the numbers so far, that it will pass "Space Jam 2" at the domestic box-office. And "Sing 2" has a good chance of doing that, too.
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estefan wrote: Domestically, "Space Jam: A New Legacy" is the highest-grossing animated film of the pandemic era with $70 million, followed by "The Croods: A New Age" with $58 million, "The Boss Baby: Family Business" with $57 million, "The Addams Family 2" with $56 million and "Raya and the Last Dragon" with $54 million.
While sad to see Raya at the bottom of the domestic list, what jumps out to me is that every other film on that list is a sequel. Even Tom & Jerry, not mentioned in this part I quoted, is an old, familiar property the way Addams Family is.

I still think a Raya 2 will happen, as well as an Encanto sequel as well. (I still think Moana would've got a sequel--the mythology was rife for one--if M&C had not been the directors... I still believe Lasseter wanted that to be their last film with WDAS.) I can picture an Encanto sequel dealing with a story along the lines of the mountains that protect them disappearing because reasons and they have to confront the place Alma, Pedro, and everyone else came from again. Or the house decides to finally give Mirabel a power of her own--since the family lost their powers and re-gained them at the end of the film, that could be possible?
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Surface Pressure Clip: https://youtu.be/KYOGq9qwMZg :o

I think I'm in love with Luisa rotfl
Probably my favourite character in an assemble of good characters!
estefan wrote: I think part of why box-office analysts had been more conservative with trying to figure out how Encanto would do at the domestic box-office is because of how other animated films have done during the pandemic. Domestically, "Space Jam: A New Legacy" is the highest-grossing animated film of the pandemic era with $70 million, followed by "The Croods: A New Age" with $58 million, "The Boss Baby: Family Business" with $57 million, "The Addams Family 2" with $56 million and "Raya and the Last Dragon" with $54 million.
Thank you for your summary Estefan :-)! Sure they probably noticed that, but idk we have to keep in mind than some of the animated movies you are refering here were released 9 months to more than a year ago (with two exceptions here.) So back at a time when the vaccination wasn't accessible yet, or only a small ratio of the population was vacinated. Things are different now even if the global Box Office has still a long way to go to fully recover.

And yes Space Jam 2 and Baby Boss 2 might have underperformed (or have they..?) but I trust it's more because of a lack of interest from general audiences for these than anything else.. Were they that expected? Not as much as the latest WDAS movie I think.. And other family movies also were released around summer (Cruella, Jungle Cruise) and got better figures. Plus, these two got a streaming release on the same day respectively on HBOmax and Peacock at no extra cost.

So I still don't understand the first predictions ^^. If there's one thing that's going to hurt the movie performance imo it would be the way Disney chose to make a rather quiet promotion for the film until the very last weeks preceeding its release. They were also very discreet with Raya and the Last Dragon but here it goes even further.
estefan wrote:Disney has also been smart in barely advertising that the movie will be on Disney Plus in less than a month.
Sure, as they should but I think this movie didn't need an anticipated release on Disney+.
estefan wrote:So I think, especially based on the numbers so far, that it will pass "Space Jam 2" at the domestic box-office.
Not to mention Encanto will have no new competition for 3 weeks, until the release of Spider-Man No Way Home.
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Clindor wrote: Sure, as they should but I think this movie didn't need an anticipated release on Disney+.
I agree. That's part of why I wanted to see the film ASAP, too, because I didn't want to miss it by waiting too long.

I had thought about the fact that the films estefan listed were likely released at later times than Raya was in March, but I was too lazy to look up all their different release dates. Encanto is definitely in a better position than any of the films released in the spring or summer because the pandemic itself isn't as debilitating for theaters as it was then.

Thankfully, Target did include the soundtrack for this as part of its B2G1 sale, even though it's a pre-order. :D
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Encanto is certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes and has received an 'A' CinemaScore.

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Farerb wrote:^ It seems that Isabela and Mariano are betrothed, but I think that perhaps Isabela doesn't love him or want to get marry, but she's doing it because this is what expected of her. Dolores is clearly in love with Mariano.
Okay, so the part about betrothed to someone else is sung by Delores. I thought it was sung by Isabela. So this makes sense now. (Someone posted a movie-theater-recorded clip of the song in YouTube.).

I should be going to see this today- scared of the theater but I need to see it!
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Sotiris wrote:The film is set in the 1900s
It's not really clear. They mention the Titanic and TV, but they don't have electricity or cars.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:
Farerb wrote:^ It seems that Isabela and Mariano are betrothed, but I think that perhaps Isabela doesn't love him or want to get marry, but she's doing it because this is what expected of her. Dolores is clearly in love with Mariano.
Okay, so the part about betrothed to someone else is sung by Delores. I thought it was sung by Isabela. So this makes sense now. (Someone posted a movie-theater-recorded clip of the song in YouTube.).
yes, I'm sorry that I wasn't clear.
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Okay, so the part about betrothed to someone else is sung by Delores. I thought it was sung by Isabela. So this makes sense now. (Someone posted a movie-theater-recorded clip of the song in YouTube.).
yes, I'm sorry that I wasn't clear.
No worries! I just didn't realize that there are two different voices in that part of the song! I did buy tickets for 4:15pm tonight...SO excited. And nervous. #doublemask But I'm really looking forward to the film and short. I'm so glad the film is getting such good reviews. I think Disney needs to monitor YouTube- there seem to be multiple theater-shot clips on YouTube...
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I just came back from seeing this!! I really enjoyed it. I love Mirabel so, so much. They did a great job making us care for each of the family members. The music is even better in the context/with the visuals of the film.

I wanted more of the explanation of the start of the magic. Maybe I just missed it, but why did Alma (right, Abuela = Alma?) get chosen for the magic? Because she cared so much about saving her family and community?

Abuela was the worst through the film. Isabela was too for a lot of it. I just wanted to adopt Mirabel or give her a hug. Mirabel's parents made me happy, defending their daughter to Abuela. I loved that. I was super duper proud of when Mirabel defended herself to Abuela. I clapped. Mirabel did not deserve all of those years of being dismissed and mistreated by Abuela. I wish we get shorts or something- I really wanted to spend more time with the other family members (they did such a great job with them that I want more).
I can't wait to watch this again in a month on Disney+!
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blackcauldron85 wrote:I just came back from seeing this!! I really enjoyed it. I love Mirabel so, so much. They did a great job making us care for each of the family members. The music is even better in the context/with the visuals of the film.

I wanted more of the explanation of the start of the magic. Maybe I just missed it, but why did Alma (right, Abuela = Alma?) get chosen for the magic? Because she cared so much about saving her family and community?
It's not clear to me. I personally thought it happened because of Pedro rather than Alma. The fact that he loved her so much he sacrificed his life for her, in other words. Who knows.
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Does Jared Bush imply there'll be a Disney+ series?
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https://twitter.com/thejaredbush/status ... UOBPg&s=19

I'd like a Disney+ series where each episode focuses on a different family member and perhaps the series could give depth to the characters and their relationships with each other.
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