Wreck-It Ralph (formerly Reboot Ralph)

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:08 pm

I found the humor to be very juvenile and lowbrow. I didn't find it funny at all. Am I the only one who feels this way? Perhaps in the context of the movie it won't be so bad. The trailer was a disappointment for me as we didn't learn anything new about the plot or the characters. It's basically a rehash of the first trailer. Also, I'm tired of this recent trend with Disney that every animated movie has to marketed as a comedy. They seem afraid to show anything remotely deep or serious when promoting these movies. Do people really respond more to that or is the industry underestimating its audience?

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:18 pm

I personally loved the trailer, mainly because I loved seeing some of the new footage and characters, even if they didn't tell us anything we already knew about. Though, I will give it to the Japanese trailer that it was more balanced since it did have some crucial character moments, like when Ralph saw something in Vanellope and gave her his support, and when the racers yelled at her for being a glitch. But at the same time, another problem trailers have is that they show too much, leaving little for people to be surprised about.

I will agree that some of the humor came off as juvenile, but I think the movie will also excel in witty, clever and subtle humor as well, so I am not worried over those two jokes in particular.

Regarding your last concern, I think it's a little bit of both. It seems that nowadays audiences want to spend their movie money on films that are guaranteed to be fun, exciting and thrilling. If the trailer is able to sell that, then they are sure to go to the movie. If not, they move onto the next one. While there is also a bit of audience underestimation involved, I think it is the desire of trying to catch an audience that is very hard to capture these days.

Not excusing the marketing efforts, but that's how I see it.

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:37 pm

The trailer was good. I personally liked the pop music in it. Funkytown fitted it fine.

And I'm really glad they gave out plot points. It looks like:

1. That Ralph will accidentely unplug all of the games in the arcade. (Or he tries to on purpose. My parents were talking).
2. That Sgt. Calhon will be a villianess and tries to take over the games. (Yay for that! Jane is a perfect villianess

)

But, I was hoping that there would be a plot twist and Fix-It Felix would be the true villian. Hopefully, he's a traitor (thus the jail part).

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:47 pm

disneyprincess11 wrote:The trailer was good. I personally liked the pop music in it. Funkytown fitted it fine.

And I'm really glad they gave out plot points. It looks like:

1. That Ralph will accidentely unplug all of the games in the arcade. (Or he tries to on purpose. My parents were talking).
2. That Sgt. Calhon will be a villianess and tries to take over the games. (Yay for that! Jane is a perfect villianess )

But, I was hoping that there would be a plot twist and Fix-It Felix would be the true villian. Hopefully, he's a traitor (thus the jail part).

Here is my speculation about the plot and the villains of the piece:

What will happen is that When Ralph enters Hero's Duty, he is under the command of Calhon (sp?), and she being a fierce, angry, strict military person she will be hard on Ralph because he is new to the sci-fi war game genre. Then, when Ralph is declared a hero, it is likely that she gets very, very angry. Fix It Felix then meets her and tells her that Ralph is game jumping. Considering how angry she is with Ralph, she uses this as an opportunity to get back at Ralph and the whole gaming spectrum. Fix It Felix then becomes an unknowing pawn to her plan. Felix just wants peace and order, and follows her and may indirectly be helping in a much bigger, dastardly plan.

Near the end, Ralph ends up saving Felix, and they both realize that they need each other in order to keep their world alive, and team up to defeat Calhon.

Remember, Zangief says to Ralph that just because he is a bad guy that doesn't mean he is a "bad guy". What he meant that Ralph may be a bad guy in a video game, but he is in actuality a wonderful person with a heart of gold. This means that either Felix or Calhon may be the heroes of their respective games, but are far from good natured people and are actually dastardly.

I'm betting Calhon will be the example of that mentality.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:49 pm

Fix-it Felix as the villain is something I wouldn't like. We saw this villain twist in Meet the Robinson, where granted it was effective.

But I don't think I can buy Jack McBrayer as a villain. It's Kenneth Parcell damnit!

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:03 pm

I don't think Calhoun will be any sort of villain. I think the sugar rush king character will be.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:13 pm

Neither Sgt. Calhun nor Fix-It Felix Jr. is the villain. The villain is King Candy.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:14 pm

Sotiris wrote:I found the humor to be very juvenile and lowbrow. I didn't find it funny at all. Am I the only one who feels this way? Perhaps in the context of the movie it won't be so bad. The trailer was a disappointment for me as we didn't learn anything new about the plot or the characters. It's basically a rehash of the first trailer. Also, I'm tired of this recent trend with Disney that every animated movie has to marketed as a comedy. They seem afraid to show anything remotely deep or serious when promoting these movies. Do people really respond more to that or is the industry underestimating its audience?

I'm getting a serious Chicken Little vibe to Wreck it Ralph. The potty humor is one. Disney seems more intrested in the comedy than the story or characters. That's two. Now comes, how will they market this film over the next 50 days til release? Tangled had some clever ads "the rupunzhair & smuldder" were new & fresh for 2010. Maybe some fake video game ads for Hero's Duty & Sugar Rush? Overall, the 2nd trailer was decent, but focused to much on the comedy than the characters.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:16 pm

DisneyDude2010 wrote:The new trailer is really nice, the character designs look great, animation superb, just awesome.

DisneyEra you've messed your quote up

I know, I ws trying to get a quick reponse before I left for work

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:20 pm

wonder how much of Futurama and the Simpsons humor will be in this? Rich Moore did direct some earlier episodes for the simsons and has been a supervising director on Futurama.

FigmentJedi · Post by **FigmentJedi** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:21 pm

disneyprincess11 wrote:The trailer was good. I personally liked the pop music in it. Funkytown fitted it fine.

And I'm really glad they gave out plot points. It looks like:

1. That Ralph will accidentely unplug all of the games in the arcade. (Or he tries to on purpose. My parents were talking).
2. That Sgt. Calhon will be a villianess and tries to take over the games. (Yay for that! Jane is a perfect villianess )

But, I was hoping that there would be a plot twist and Fix-It Felix would be the true villian. Hopefully, he's a traitor (thus the jail part).

I've seen the spoilers and you're really off.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:28 pm

/Film Interview: Rich Moore, Director Of ‘Wreck-It Ralph,’ Talks Sequels, Cameos, and a Game Deleted From the Film
http://www.slashfilm.com/film-interview ... -the-film/

Wreck-It Ralph's Skrillex cameo revealed
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/wreck-it- ... o-revealed

Glee's Jane Lynch Loses Tracksuit, Gears Up for War
http://uk.eonline.com/news/347678/glee- ... up-for-war

A quick trip to the 'Wreck-It Ralph' scoring stage hits all the right notes
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/a ... ight-notes

Walt Disney Animation Studios' "Wreck-It Ralph" Scores Big with Composer Henry Jackman, Plus Original Music from Skrillex, AKB48, Owl City and Buckner & Garcia
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco ... 13/LA73649

Disney hope hulking hero Wreck-it Ralph can be new Toy Story
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainm ... it-1338302

An introduction to Disney’s newest animation: Wreck-It Ralph
http://entertainment.xin.msn.com/en/cel ... k-it-ralph

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:37 am

I'm reposting the film's second trailer, as the Yahoo player is low-res and plays jerkily.

You will be asked if you like boobs at the end of this video. Feel free to reply in any shape or form.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:53 am

I just watched the trailer and I find it good though they shouldve said resetvon life rather than restart.

Pokeholic_Prince · Post by **Pokeholic_Prince** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:27 pm

This trailer is fantastic, way better than the first one. It has heart, humor, and shows of the gorgeous animation in the film. The toilet humor didn't really bother me, it is subtle and the one in "Hero's Duty" is justified because that's how those characters talk in games like those.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:33 pm

Check out the new poster!

I really like it! Although I wish they had included Vanellope and Felix and some other actual characters alongside the cameo characters.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:34 pm

Look it's Sonic and the Pacman ghost! MILK IT DISNEY!!!!

No it looks great though

TheSequelOfDisney · Post by **TheSequelOfDisney** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:13 pm

I'm so not a gamer, but that trailer was incredibly awesome! I'll definitely try and see this in theaters come November

Marce82 · Post by **Marce82** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:17 pm

See now, I'm not a gamer either. And to be honest, after watching the two trailers, I have to admit I have no interest whatsoever in this film. Seems like a story I have seen done a thousand times, and the "clever" game references do nothing for me. Nor will they do for people that aren't or weren't gamers.

To semi-quote Howard Ashaman: " Does this film fit comfortable on the shelf with Pinocchio, Peter Pan and Cinderella?". I don't think so. I also don't think this film has universal appeal...

Hmmm... I don't think this will be a hit :-(

I hope I'm wrong

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:58 pm

Marce82 wrote:See now, I'm not a gamer either. And to be honest, after watching the two trailers, I have to admit I have no interest whatsoever in this film. Seems like a story I have seen done a thousand times, and the "clever" game references do nothing for me. Nor will they do for people that aren't or weren't gamers.

To semi-quote Howard Ashaman: " Does this film fit comfortable on the shelf with Pinocchio, Peter Pan and Cinderella?". I don't think so. I also don't think this film has universal appeal...

Hmmm... I don't think this will be a hit

I hope I'm wrong

I disagree with this post entirely. And here's why...

I am a gamer, so many of these references apply to me. But even then, I think Wreck it Ralph will still have a presence with audiences that aren't gamers. Why? Because I feel the story and characters will be strong enough that it will be universal to everyone, regardless if they are gamers or not.

Take for example Who Framed Roger Rabbit. One of the biggest appealing elements of the film are the cameo appearances by various cartoon characters from the golden age of animation. The film had a ton of them, and it too relied on jokes and tropes related to the world of animation. And yet, what really stood out for people was the story and the characters. The very adult themes of infidelity, murder and corruption, the subtle yet raunchy humor, the brisk pacing, action and mystery made it a huge it with people. Yeah, animated characters have more history than video game characters, but even then while people talk about how Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny met in that one scene, what stayed with them was the powerful story.

So don't be too surprised if Wreck it Ralph suddenly finds an audience with non-gamers because the story that has been given to the story has been solid based on what we have seen, read and heard. It is a very universal story about accepting yourself for who you are and having a huge impact in your world, as well as learning to appreciate everyone in your life, which in a way is a very classic Disney moral.

Now, regarding what you said about the movie being able to fit in with Peter Pan and Cinderella... well that's the beauty of this movie: it DOESN'T fit in. Wreck it Ralph seems to be something special and unique for Disney, a movie that seems honest with its humor and characters rather than aiming for the cool, hip audience (yeah some ads have the infamous DreamWorks face going on, but so far Ralph and friends have been sold as their own characters, not as super hip characters for the younger generation). Yeah, the movies you mentioned are class acts on their own, but comparing Ralph to them is diminishing its value and placing unfair judgment on it, which is exactly what Wreck it Ralph is talking about with the Vanellope story: being rejected because you somehow don't "fit" with the best when the chance hasn't even been given.

Let us also forget that on that shelf lies other Disney classics like Three Caballeros, the package films, Alice in Wonderland and such, movies that fans have deemed as "unworthy" of the Disney name, but are still part of that shelf along with Peter Pan and Cinderella.

If you feel that the movie isn't for you, well that's fine. But I think video game references and all, it will have an audience that isn't primarily composed of gamers. Heck, I know a lot of my friends who are not gamers yet still really want to see this movie because it looks fun, creative and different.

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