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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/02/be ... n-ew-cover

The video on the link provided also shows a lot of images. I know some people are iffy on the design choices, but I like them so far!!
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Oh my goodness. Someone post the EW cover for Beauty and the Beast! The dress looks so much better when it is moving!
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Gorgeous. I'm still a little worried about Beast's face design though.
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I also think the dress + the beast look way better in these pictures! Not a fan of the beast' hornes though, looks too much like a goat I think.. But here are some of the images they showed in the video:

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Love the atmosphere of the last one :)
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Ok this looks great to be honest.

Finally :D
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On EW.com you can now find 9 new photos:
http://www.ew.com/gallery/beauty-and-th ... tson-belle
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It looks better in movement, although the magazine cover text covers most of the dress so that might not mean much. Her hair looks better in that shot too. I understand the reasoning for the simple dress, because Belle isn't the gaudy type of character who would wear something as restricted as a corset, but I still wish the dress reflected the time period more.
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THANK GOODNESS! Looking at the Entertainment Cover and the 8 other photos, I must say, if the original 1991 Beauty and the Beast was my favorite movie, this would be a dream come true!

Everything looks so beautiful and creative! I seem to be seeing a blue and gold theme going on. Belle's blue dress has nice pink ties and looks fantastic. Gaston and LeFou look perfect. Belle's father...well I wish he looked more like the kind of chubby cute fool we know but maybe his acting will show why he was a good choice. The sets and decor look fan-freaking-tastic. The Beast looks great to me like he always has, but his suit looks better and his hair has been made to look more styled for a ballroom dance for the dance scene and that is truly great. Finally, even though I usually hate dresses that are tiered like that from bigger layers to smaller layers, I must say, overall, it looks gorgeous! Still so much like a prom dress though, lol. And yes, I still wish it was more historically accurate, like JeanGreyForever, said. I wouldn't even care if she ditched a corset, that would be great, just like JeanGrey said, Belle would not care about what she looks like except to look nice for her friend the Beast, she could just get a pretty historically accurate dress without a corset. I would rather the last dress design I drew, but it is still a great dress. So all in all, this looks f***ing amazing!

But don't any of you realize the dress in the two or three pictures we saw before this was not the actual finished dress? The tiered layers of the skirt were not the same as the ones we are seeing now. Same with her hair, it seems. And the Beast for that matter.

You were right Divinity when you said the designs weren't finalized yet.
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A few new plot points that are bound to offend some people. Apparently Belle is now the inventor and Maurice makes... music boxes? from this article:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/02/be ... evin-kline
Well, it turns out that in the forthcoming Bill Condon-directed movie it is Belle who is the inventor while Maurice constructs the aforementioned music-makers.
Well, there was never very much information or detail at the beginning of the story as to why Belle didn’t fit in, other than she liked books. Also what is she doing with her time?’ So, we created a backstory for her, which was that she had invented a kind of washing machine, so that, instead of doing laundry, she could sit and use that time to read instead. So, yeah, we made Belle an inventor.
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I have mixed feelings on that. For one thing, it feels derivative because they just did the same thing with Mowgli. Mainly it feels a little too modern, like they wanted this Belle to be even more progressive than the 1991 one so they give her this new quirk just to pander to the "feminist agenda." But I do like that the invention she makes is supposed to give her more time to read so at least it's connected to her main passion. I also like how Maurice makes music boxes to show Belle different countries. I always felt like the movie makes such a show in the beginning of how Belle wants adventure only to drop it after she reaches the Beast's castle.
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nomad2010 wrote:A few new plot points that are bound to offend some people. Apparently Belle is now the inventor and Maurice makes... music boxes? from this article:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/02/be ... evin-kline
Well, it turns out that in the forthcoming Bill Condon-directed movie it is Belle who is the inventor while Maurice constructs the aforementioned music-makers.
Well, there was never very much information or detail at the beginning of the story as to why Belle didn’t fit in, other than she liked books. Also what is she doing with her time?’ So, we created a backstory for her, which was that she had invented a kind of washing machine, so that, instead of doing laundry, she could sit and use that time to read instead. So, yeah, we made Belle an inventor.
I'm sorry. I didn't realize that the message of the first movie was that Reading wasn't an activity that could satisfy you. And that time doesn't pass when you read books.

Why didn't Belle fit in? I'll tell you why, you idiot (Condon), it's because she probably spent most of her time reading books and learning from them rather than spending time in the village with people. It doesn't take an genius to figure that out. Belle doesn't go outside and play around and hang out with the other villagers because she would rather identify and connect with characters in the book that she was reading.

And the town always thought it was weird for Belle to spend all of her time reading when she basically was the most beautiful girl in the village.

Man, I am so mad right now. If they couldn't get this simple thought, then what the heck are they doing with the rest of the movie?! Next we'll find out that the Prince wasn't turned into a beast because he wouldn't shelter an ugly person from the storm, he probably invented a machine to scan the looks of people before letting them knock. :x


Also, why do we have to associate Belle with doing housework? Even in the other image, she is holding a rag and there's a bucket next to her. I get that women at that time did most of the cleaning, but we don't need to see it. Belle's thing is reading books. That's it! Stop ruining that.

God this movie is going to be a disaster... What was disney thinking?!

I generally try my best to keep an open mind, and I did that with Cinderella even while I was watching the movie and cringing... But this... This is a whole new level of stupidity on their part.

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JeanGreyForever wrote:I have mixed feelings on that. For one thing, it feels derivative because they just did the same thing with Mowgli. Mainly it feels a little too modern, like they wanted this Belle to be even more progressive than the 1991 one so they give her this new quirk just to pander to the "feminist agenda." But I do like that the invention she makes is supposed to give her more time to read so at least it's connected to her main passion. I also like how Maurice makes music boxes to show Belle different countries. I always felt like the movie makes such a show in the beginning of how Belle wants adventure only to drop it after she reaches the Beast's castle.
I agree with you! I don't think the addition of Belle being an inventor was needed to explain why the townspeople find her weird, but I do think this can work.
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Personally?

I like the fact that Belle is the inventor now and not just an avid reader. And I don't mind the fact that the Beast has a different design from his animated counterpart. Because having it completely like the original animated movie would be pointless.

There. I said it.
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So the duster/Babette is a bird....?

I like the overall visual look, but I'm still unsure about the Beast design and the enchanted objects. I'll have to wait until I see them in action in a proper trailer.
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Maurice was always a little too stupid to be an inventor anyway, and him making/selling music boxes is a little closer to being a merchant like the fairy tale. And the addition to her character probably will make Belle feel like a somewhat fuller character (I know, she didn't need the help, but whatever). It'll be especially interesting if she likes to use odds and ends nobody would think about to make her inventions, comparing to how she sees the Beast as something more than just what his beastly exterior would say he is. I can imagine the scenes of her looking at Lumiere & Cogsworth, and the rose, in such a different way now--like she's trying to understand how they work? :lol:
JeanGreyForever wrote:Mainly it feels a little too modern, like they wanted this Belle to be even more progressive than the 1991 one so they give her this new quirk just to pander to the "feminist agenda."
The original film already has a “feminist agenda,” so it's not like they need to pander to a crowd that would already be interested in this film. That's why I have no problems with this, tbh.
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Thanks coolmanio and nomad2010 for bringing us such news and images!

I am…very displeased with this Belle being the inventor instead of Maurice thing. It changes who Belle is. She wanted to read, and she wanted to go on adventures. She had enough to her. They didn’t need to add anything. I certainly wouldn’t mind if Maurice made music boxes along with his inventing, but he should be the inventor. It’s changing what Disney’s Beauty and the Beast is too much. I wonder if he’ll be going to a music box or other kind of fair to show off the stuff? Or be a merchant as well like in the original story. I do like that music boxes are in this as for a long time a music box was going to be part of the original film, but I don’t want it to be like this.

JeanGrey, Belle didn’t lose her desire for adventure. She had to give up her freedom to get her father free. Then, when she could, she explored the castle dining room and eventually West Wing. And eventually she was on an entire adventure becoming friends with a beast, seeing a whole castle, and finding love. But it is true that they added this to make Belle more “proactive” and “in charge of her own destiny”, as that is what it says in the Entertainment Weekly magazine in the video. But that’s only a little quote, I don’t know the context. It’s possible they are referring to the original movie’s Belle. But I doubt it.

Hey guys, I also read in that magazine, from the video, that the wardrobe magically adds gold rococo to Belle’s yellow gown. I guess that’s where that concept art of shining gold flying around a girl in a yellow dress was. But I think that’s too Cinderella…

taei, I almost completely agree with you, except I didn’t cringe at Cinderella and I think it’s ok to see women do cleaning. Showing what characters had to do every day is fine. It gives a slice of life. A day in the life. It’s not like all she’ll be doing is cleaning. It’s just for like a moment or two.
Disney's Divinity wrote:Maurice was always a little too stupid to be an inventor anyway, and him making/selling music boxes is a little closer to being a merchant like the fairy tale.
Someone who is stupid in some ways can be smart in other ways. Look at how "nerds" usually are good at certain things but not others. Or creative people are not good at certain school subjects but are at creativity. As for him being a merchant, I wouldn't mind that if it was added to him being an inventor instead of Belle being an inventor, but the definition of a merhcant is, by dictionary.com: "a person who buys and sells commodities for profit; dealer; trader" or "a storekeeper; retailer". It doesn't seem Maurice will be those things.
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I know what a merchant is, thanks, that’s why I said “closer to.” :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Ah. Ok, Divinity. I getcha.
DisneyJedi wrote:...And I don't mind the fact that the Beast has a different design from his animated counterpart. Because having it completely like the original animated movie would be pointless.

There. I said it.
I have been liking the Beast's new design from the get-go!
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Here are some of the images from the article in higher resolution: http://entertainmentweekly.tumblr.com/p ... om-disneys

And according to Jack Morrissey, the film's producer, Belle's father is still an inventor in this new version: https://twitter.com/Jack_Morrissey/stat ... 2012982272

He also said that the trailer will be released with Moana: https://twitter.com/Jack_Morrissey/stat ... 6560890880
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ce1ticmoon wrote:So the duster/Babette is a bird....?
I think it's just a decorative thing, like how often they use animals in decorations. I hope she isn't an actual bird turned into a feather duster lol.
D82 wrote:Here are some of the images from the article in higher resolution: http://entertainmentweekly.tumblr.com/p ... om-disneys

And according to Jack Morrissey, the film's producer, Belle's father is still an inventor in this new version: https://twitter.com/Jack_Morrissey/stat ... 2012982272

He also said that the trailer will be released with Moana: https://twitter.com/Jack_Morrissey/stat ... 6560890880
Ooooooooh! Thank you! Thank goodness Maurice is still an inventor! And a trailer with Moana! That's magnificent! Finally!
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