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Sotiris wrote:Kubo and the Two Strings was also nominated in the Best Visual Effects category making history by becoming the first and only animated feature to ever be nominated in this category.
The Nightmare Before Christmas was also nominated for best visual effects.
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Sotiris wrote:For the first time since the implementation of the new rules, scores from musicals will be eligible this year. While the rules haven't officially changed, the music branch of the Academy has decided to be more lenient in the interpretation of the rules regarding scores from musicals. This essentially renders the rules meaningless and allows the Academy to arbitrarily choose which score is eligible or not which puts into question their integrity. They should either allow all scores from musicals to compete or none of them. It makes no sense to disqualify, for example, the score from Frozen or Tangled but allow the score from Moana to compete. It's ludicrous.

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Seems to me this was done to get La La Land a record amount of nominations, which means headlines and ratings. The adoption of the rule always was nothing more than a slap in the face of Alan Menken. This is like kicking him while he's down.

Doesn't matter. They will need him again next year. Since Celine Dion = ratings.

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estefan wrote:The Nightmare Before Christmas was also nominated for best visual effects.
I can't believe I forgot about that one. :embarrassed: I've corrected my previous post.

This year I'm most disappointed by the short film nominees. I've watched three of the nominated shorts in full (Borrowed Time, Pearl, Piper) but didn't like any of them. Piper's nomination was particularly perplexing.
PatrickvD wrote:Seems to me this was done to get La La Land a record amount of nominations, which means headlines and ratings. The adoption of the rule always was nothing more than a slap in the face of Alan Menken. This is like kicking him while he's down.
Couldn't agree more. That rule wasn't fair to begin with but now it's even worse. It's become completely arbitrary. The music branch of the Academy is such a mess.
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The Red Turtle is the only nominee I haven't seen, which I'm hoping to fix soon. The other four are fantastic. It's Zootopia's award to lose, but any of the other nominees pulled a surprise win, I would not be too disappointed.

I'm also relatively pleased that Finding Dory wasn't nominated. An underwhelming sequel to an overhyped original, IMO. This also proves that despite its massive success, the film isn't all that memorable.
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Pretty disappointed about Your Name being snubbed, especially since it seems like Funimation screwed up at promoting it. They shouldn't have pushed it into the competition so quickly, considering that the film's wide American release isn't until April. It would have definitely stood a chance next year. Personally, if I were to choose my ideal nominees based on personal preference, I'd definitely pick it over Moana. As much as I liked Moana, Zootopia fulfills the Disney quota already. Otherwise, I think the nominees are perfect (although I haven't seen My Life as a Zucchini yet, it sounds great).

What if, though: The voters who don't care about animation just split their votes between Zootopia and Moana (because Disney), which leads to Kubo winning. I would be alright with that outcome, if only for Kubo to get the recognition it deserves. :up:

This is honestly a pretty stacked year, though, probably moreso than 2014 was in my opinion (in terms of quantity of good animated films). I would be fine with any of the movies winning. Your Name even replaces The Lego Movie as the obligatory critically-lauded, but "out-of-touch-with-the-average-Academy-member-demographic" film that got snubbed.
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Piper's nomination was particularly perplexing.
aw, gotta disagree with ya Sotiris I adored Piper... its one of my favorite of Pixar's shorts, but thats also probably the avian nut in me talking (and baby birds? forget it, Im done.) :embarrassed:

glad to see Moana got its votes and that Dory was left out. I enjoyed the film but it really was not worth a nom.
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The Academy has its own consensus on what Pixar should focus on, seeing as how they snubbed another sequel.

It's a tough call on the nominees, but I'm hoping that Zootopia will win this one. It came out much better than was advertised.
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When Spirited Away won it was in 2002, but the feature came out in Japan in 2001. That was the 1st year of the Best Animated Feature Oscar & was all about Shrek & Monster Inc. Spirited Away winning in 2002 prevented Lilo & Stitch from winning. So why can't Your Name be eligible for the 2017 Oscars?
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Yaaay !!! Rooting for Zootopia !

It will be a shame if it misses out on the Oscar when its won almost everything else.
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DisneyEra wrote:When Spirited Away won it was in 2002, but the feature came out in Japan in 2001. That was the 1st year of the Best Animated Feature Oscar & was all about Shrek & Monster Inc. Spirited Away winning in 2002 prevented Lilo & Stitch from winning. So why can't Your Name be eligible for the 2017 Oscars?
It could have been, if Funimation didn't give it a qualifying run last year in a effort to submit it for the 2016 Oscars. I guess they figured they wanted to strike while the iron is hot, since the film had been massively hyped last year, though maybe that was a miscalculation on their part since it hasn't really had the opportunity to gain too much traction in the US. (I was thinking the LAFCA might help it, but I guess not.)

I know hindsight is 20/20, but considering no Japanese film outside of Ghibli has been nominated in the category before, and the fact that Funimation has no track record either, they maybe should have waited to release it this year. It would have had less Disney/Pixar to go up against--three last year versus two this year, one of which is a Cars sequel. Plus it could have potentially gained some buzz in the US due to the general release.

Maybe GKIDS could have done better with it, but who knows. It was definitely one of the most competitive years for this category.
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ce1ticmoon wrote:
DisneyEra wrote:When Spirited Away won it was in 2002, but the feature came out in Japan in 2001. That was the 1st year of the Best Animated Feature Oscar & was all about Shrek & Monster Inc. Spirited Away winning in 2002 prevented Lilo & Stitch from winning. So why can't Your Name be eligible for the 2017 Oscars?
It could have been, if Funimation didn't give it a qualifying run last year in a effort to submit it for the 2016 Oscars. I guess they figured they wanted to strike while the iron is hot, since the film had been massively hyped last year, though maybe that was a miscalculation on their part since it hasn't really had the opportunity to gain too much traction in the US. (I was thinking the LAFCA might help it, but I guess not.)

I know hindsight is 20/20, but considering no Japanese film outside of Ghibli has been nominated in the category before, and the fact that Funimation has no track record either, they maybe should have waited to release it this year. It would have had less Disney/Pixar to go up against--three last year versus two this year, one of which is a Cars sequel. Plus it could have potentially gained some buzz in the US due to the general release.

Maybe GKIDS could have done better with it, but who knows. It was definitely one of the most competitive years for this category.
What was Funimation thinking? Most of the Animated Features had already been decided on for the awards in 2016. Everyone knew Zoo & Kubo were locks, Moana was a go, after it's nearly flawless reviews on Rotten Tomatoes plus The Red Turtle was the choice for the Anime entry. It was just to crowded. They messed up big time. What they should of did was dominate the international markets in 2016, then in 2017, go completely after the American audience, with that April release. Other than The Lego Batman Movie, I doubt Boss Baby & a Peanuts-esqe Smurfs film, Your Name, with proper marketing, could do done decent business. Advertising the feature as "The highest grossing Anime film of all time". It could of built up awards buzz in 2017 as the favorite to win the Oscar in 2018. Other than Pixar's Coco, 2017 is a very weak year for Animation. Back in 2001, they must of known that Spirited Away had absolutely no chance of winning an Oscar against Shrek1 & Monsters1. That's why I believe they focused on the U.S. market with a September 2002 release "only made a little over $10million" but was already established as the Highest grossing Anime ever, and became an awards darling for that year. Lilo & Stitch & Ice Age were no Shrek/Monsters, so Spirited had a better chance of winning in 2002 & no chance in 2001. So very disappointed in Funimation trying to get Your Name for a 2016 Oscar nod, when they should of focused on 2017 for the U.S. & establish the film as the 2018 Oscar favorite :smack:
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This weekend Zootopia has won the PGA award for best animated film and the Eddie award for best edited animated film, both awards given by the industry. I guess it's pretty safe to say now that it will get the Oscar too.
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D82 wrote:This weekend Zootopia has won the PGA award for best animated film and the Eddie award for best edited animated film, both awards given by the industry. I guess it's pretty safe to say now that it will get the Oscar too.
Zoo is on a role, beating Kubo & Moana left & right for Animation awards. Next up, the Annie Awards this Saturday & then the following Saturday, the BAFTA awards. But even if Zoo wins all those, the Oscar isn't a guarantee just yet. There is still the VES awards on Feb. 7, & Kubo has the most nods.

https://www.visualeffectssociety.com/po ... s-nominees

Back in 2014 when Dragons 2 & The Lego Movie were splitting all the major awards BH6 wasn't winning nothing, but when the VES awards came around, BH6 dominated them. Members of the VES are also members of the Oscars if i'm not mistaken , so if Kubo dominates at this event, it may pull an upset at the Oscars, the same way BH6 did against Dragons 2. Stay tuned!

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DisneyEra wrote:Zoo is on a role, beating Kubo & Moana left & right for Animation awards. Next up, the Annie Awards this Saturday & then the following Saturday, the BAFTA awards. But even if Zoo wins all those, the Oscar isn't a guarantee just yet. There is still the VES awards on Feb. 7, & Kubo has the most nods.

https://www.visualeffectssociety.com/po ... s-nominees

Back in 2014 when Dragons 2 & The Lego Movie were splitting all the major awards BH6 wasn't winning nothing, but when the VES awards came around, BH6 dominated them. Members of the VES are also members of the Oscars if i'm not mistaken , so if Kubo dominates at this event, it may pull an upset at the Oscars, the same way BH6 did against Dragons 2. Stay tuned!

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season ... 08628.html
I've looked up the VES Awards winners from the latest years on Wikipedia and you're right, most of the times the winner of these awards is also the winner of the Oscar. Last year, however, The Good Dinosaur won three awards and Inside Out only one, but that may be an exception because The Good Dinosaur really stood out in the visual aspect. It will be interesting to see who wins more VES awards this year. I still think Zootopia is going to get the Oscar, but as you said, there can always be surprises. If Zootopia doesn't win, I hope the award goes to Moana and not to Kubo. I didn't like that film much.
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Here is the full list of Annie Award winners from last night:

Best Animated Feature: Zootopia
Best Independent Animated Feature: The Red Turtle
Best Animated Short: Piper
Best Animated Special Production: Pear Cider and Cigarettes
Best Student Film: Citipati
Best Animated Commercial: Loteria 'Night Shift'
Best Television Production for Pre-School Children: Tumble Leaf
Best Television Production for Children: Adventure Time
Best General Audience Television Production: Bob's Burgers
Best Director: Byron Howard and Rich Moore - Zootopia
Best Directing in a Television Production: Patrick Osborne - Pearl
Best Writing: Jared Bush and Phil Johnston - Zootopia
Best Writing in a Television Production: Lizzie Molyneux and Wendy Molyneux - Bob's Burgers
Best Voice Acting: Auli'i Cravalho - Moana/Jason Bateman - Zootopia (TIE)
Best Voice Acting in a Television Production: Carlos Alazaraqui - The Mr. Peabody and Sherman Show
Best Animated Effects: Moana
Best Animated Effects in a Live-Action Production: Doctor Strange
Best Character Animation: Jan Maas - Kubo and the Two Strings
Best Character Animation in a Television Production: Mike Chaffe - DreamWorks Trollhunters
Best Character Animation in a Live-Action Production: The Jungle Book
Best Character Animation in a Video Game: Uncharted 4
Best Character Design: Cory Loftis - Zootopia
Best Character Design in a Television Production: Victor Maldonado, Alfredo Torres and Jules Rigolle - DreamWorks Trollhunters
Best Music: Hans Zimmer, Richard Harvey and Camille - The Little Prince
Best Music in a Television Production: Alexis Harte, JJ Wiesler and Scott Stafford - Pearl
Best Production Design: Nelson Lowry, Trevor Dalmer and August Hall - Kubo and the Two Strings
Best Production Design in a Television Production: Tuna Bora - Pearl
Best Storyboarding: Dean Wellins - Zootopia
Best Storyboarding in a Television Production: Hyunjoo Song - DreamWorks Trollhunters
Best Editing: Christopher Murrie - Kubo and the Two Strings
Best Editing in a Television Production: Illya Owens - Disney's Mickey Mouse
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I'm glad Zootopia keeps winning! :D And that Moana also got something. 6 awards for Zootopia and 2 for Moana. It was a great night for Disney Animation.
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As I predicted, It happened. Zootopia may have just lost the Oscar :shock:
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I would love Kubo to win, but I'm still sticking with it being Zootopia. :/
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yeah it would be cool if Laika finally wins it. Who knows. Hasnt Disney/Pixar won for the past 3 years now? maybe they dont want it to look like they are biased towards one studio.
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unprincess wrote:Hasn't Disney/Pixar won for the past 3 years now? maybe they don't want it to look like they are biased towards one studio.
The Walt Disney Company has won the Oscar in the Best Animated Feature category a total of 10 times out of 15 (or 11 if you count Spirited Away) and 4 years in a row.
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