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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 11: Tangled

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Musical Master wrote:That moment was the shining moment for Gothel and her demise, plus it was the most thrilling part of such a dull and a meh climax.
Agreed.

What is with Disney and their fairy tale features avoiding climaxes nowadays? "The Princess and the Frog", "Tangled" and "Frozen" didn't have good climaxes, like they had in the 70's, 80's and 90's or even in some of the films in the Walt era. Heck, Pixar's "Brave" had a climax that resembled a Disney climax
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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 11: Tangled

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Listened to Tangled Commentary, and it's great, as usual. Because I love this movie so much I jotted down some notes, like I was having a little conversation with you. :)


- I also noticed Flynn is great "none-disney" character, noted by his wondering why everyone is singing, and his ‘shrek-esque’, “sorry boys….I don’t sing”, yet on the other hand Rapunzel is authentic and pure. Great way to mend old with new.

- Interesting note on Grumpy, I hadn’t noticed Disney addressing issues with different audience attitudes even from the very beginning, good point.

- I also, didn't know it had singing it in. I had very little knowledge of the film before viewing.

- Agree, Rapunzel is a fantastic character, along with Flynn and Gothel. I thought each main character was so well developed with great writing, animation, and acting.

- Agree, the "This is my life begins" reprise with arms spread and long held note, it really stamped "Disney" on it, and reminded me of being a kid watching other disney classics.

- Agree, when I first saw Snuggly Duckling, I thought it was too much like BatB, along with the Lantern scene (too much like TLM). But very quickly the scenes evolved into their own, and by the end of the movie, I could appreciate them for referencing the Disney classics, but the movie as whole was able to stand on its own.

- Yes, I wanted more of snuggly duckling, the interior, the upstairs, etc. amazing attention to detail. I think this is something all great Disney movies have - a believable world, with as much attention to detail as possible. The same is true of Rapunzel’s tower. I often find myself pausing the movie just to have a look around The Snuggle Duckling, or the tower, because there’s so much rich detail in those ‘sets’.

- Agree with Tangled and best animation, even compared to Toy Story 3 and HTTYD. I think it is still the best "human character" animation I've seen. It's not overly technical, but the warmth, and degree of human expressions, and communication just in simple (yet complex) poses and facial expressions are above what I’ve seen still to date.

- Love the kingdom dance scene, great music, and the use of no lyrics, I thought it was unique, and at the same time, 'fit' the scene very well. Really gives the audience a sense of being in the village. The use of the clapping, and violin solo really give it that authentic village dance feel. One of my favorite scenes.

- Love the lantern scene as well, I love when a movie is clear about it’s peak, and its ‘it’ moment.

- I also loved the "Torn dress" moment in this. The animation on Rapunzel's face as she seems to be in utter shock as she realizes the world is a "dark and scary place" is amazing - you can't not feel sorry for her. The same is true of her 'ugly face' when crying in the water cave, and at the end, amazing animation.

- Yes, the transition from "Blondie", to "Rapunzel", is one of the many ways the writers and directors where able to add attention to detail regarding their relationship transition. Similar to the way Flynn is constantly moving Rapunzel's hair away from her, in a way, saying that it isn’t important, while Gothel is constantly pointing out her hair, picking it up, and putting it in front of her, etc. Also the way Gothel always waits for a hug, while Rapunzel’s mom initiates the hug. Great attention to detail.

- Actually my least favorite part of Tangled Ever After, was the voice of the Queen. I found it really powerful that the King and Queen had no lines in Tangled. In a way, their characters were so strong, they didn’t need dialog, and having no dialog was part of their character. But that was kind of broken when the queen spoke, it kind of broke one of the key features of her character for me. Even though I did really enjoy what she said, and that part of the short (exploding kingdom…like why is it exploding?? Hahahaha )

- Impact of Tangled - toally agree. In my eyes, it's really the start of a new Disney renaissance. Personally I think at the point of Tangled, John Lasseter and the rest of the Disney team really found their footing, and starting to make really great movies. I’ve loved every Disney movie since Tangled, even Winnie the Pooh. Yet, Tangled still remains on top. I love a movie that is true and genuine to its genre and at the same time lifts the bar of that genre. Honestly, and I know this is heavily criticized (please don’t kill me), but after seeing Tangled and it’s high level of beauty and animation, I wanted to see the older classics (Dumbo, Pinocchio, BatB, TLM, TLK, etc.) completely redone, scene for scene but using 3D animation. That's how much I loved Tangled.

Thanks again for the great commentary!
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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 11: Tangled

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DisneyFan09 wrote:
Musical Master wrote:That moment was the shining moment for Gothel and her demise, plus it was the most thrilling part of such a dull and a meh climax.
Agreed.

What is with Disney and their fairy tale features avoiding climaxes nowadays? "The Princess and the Frog", "Tangled" and "Frozen" didn't have good climaxes, like they had in the 70's, 80's and 90's or even in some of the films in the Walt era. Heck, Pixar's "Brave" had a climax that resembled a Disney climax
I don't know, I friggin LOVED the climax to Frozen, at least there was all that magical ice and stuff.

This commentary was very interesting perspective on a movie which I think was the start of something better for Disney, maybe not the best of all time, but a movie that was needed to get back to what they knew best.
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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 11: Tangled

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Thanks everyone for the awesome responses so far!

Regarding the anti-climaxes, yeah, I have to agree. I personally blame it on the fact that it seems that with the rushed pacing on some of the movies (Princess and the Frog and Frozen in particular), they tend to get to the point rather than to create an elaborate scene to finish off the movie (though Frozen did try something bigger).
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Re: The Three CommentEARS: Audio Commentaries for Disney Fil

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Just in time for Saving Mr. Banks to hit theatres nationwide (after limited engagements and various previews), our latest commentary has been posted, featuring the landmark 1964 film Mary Poppins. And UD's own Aaron Wallace joins us in our discussion as we trace its production, make comparisons to both the original P.L. Travers books and stage musical, and look into how it impacted our lives over the years. In addition, we examine some of the film's spiritual themes, its high-ranking reputation within the Disney company, the various "Disney Achievements" represented within the film, several connections to 2013's Saving Mr. Banks and Travers herself, and the film's impact on all viewers since its release.

You can listen to the streaming version here:
http://www.fromscreentotheme.com/ThursdayTreasures.aspx

Or download the MP3 here:
http://www.fromscreentotheme.com/The%20 ... oppins.mp3

To maximize your enjoyment of this commentary, press "Play" on your copy of the film. Begin the commentary when you see "Walt Disney Presents" on the screen, as indicated by the image below. Then sit back, relax, and enjoy the show!

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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 12: Mary Poppins

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I listened to this one last night, and usual, you guys knocked it out of the park! But this is one of my favorites period, so I'm always glad to see it justice.
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Disneykid wrote:Thanks for the kind words, estefan! The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh's my second favorite Disney animated classic, and The Emperor's New Groove's in my top 10, so I'd definitely love to tackle both of them. We have most of our commentaries planned out month by month, but there are few months that are up in air. We may use those one or both of those films to fill in the gaps. We'll keep you posted!
Hi Disneykid. It seems like we have the same taste; We both hold "Alice", "Winnie The Pooh" and "Hunchback" high on our lists. I know this is a random question, but are you one of the "Hunchback" fans who absolutely hates the sequel?
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Hey guys, is there any plans to release a new commentary soon? January's basically over, and we didn't get anything.
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January's commentaries will be posted this coming Thursday. :)

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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 12: Mary Poppins

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Sweet! Can't wait! :)
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Our season begins anew here at The Three CommentEARS. We feature three commentaries for your listening pleasure, as we take a look at the 1991 Academy Award-nominated film Beauty and the Beast. But this is not just one look at the film, we've created commentary tracks for three versions of the film. Both the Theatrical and Extended versions of the film feature commentary from Albert Gutierrez, Pedro Hernandez, and Kelvin Cedeño. This track focuses primarily on analysis and the film's cultural impact, with production information peppered in at key points. In addition, Albert Gutierrez and Pedro Hernandez provide an additional commentary, meant to be played with the Work in Progress version of the film. This track takes a more expansive look at the production of the film, occasionally in comparison to other famous renditions of "Beauty and the Beast" lore.

You can listen to the streaming version of the Theatrical Release here:
http://www.fromscreentotheme.com/ThursdayTreasures.aspx

Or download the MP3 files for all three commentaries here:
Beauty and the Beast - Theatrical Release
Beauty and the Beast - Extended Edition
Beauty and the Beast - Work in Progress

To maximize your enjoyment of this commentary, press "Play" on your copy of the film. Begin the commentary when you see "Walt Disney Pictures Presents" on the screen, as indicated by the image below. Then sit back, relax, and enjoy the show!

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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 13: Beauty and the Beast

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Thanks again for a good commentary.
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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 13: Beauty and the Beast

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Long time since you've made a new commentary, guys. I'm not trying to pressure you, but when are you going to make a new one?
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Re: The Three CommentEARS Episode 13: Beauty and the Beast

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We have one in the can, another that's half complete, and one more to be recorded. Hopefully, we'll have them all ready sooner rather than later. Thanks for asking!

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