Walt Disney Treasures Wave X Discussion

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:44 pm

My vote is still for "Song of the South." Personally, I think that should be priority number one, but it seems that I am in the minority there.

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:57 pm

*raises his hand up* I nominate Song Of The South too, WDT is the perfect way to release it, have Leonard Maltin, James Earl Jones (or both) place the film in context, have film historians do the audio commentary, "Makin Of" documentary, art gallery, documentary on Splash Mountain, maybe a new animated Brer' Rabbit tale.

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:00 pm

Sounds good to me! I really do love that movie.... as long as it makes its way to DVD before the format draws its last breath, I'll be happy.

Cordy_Biddle · Post by **Cordy_Biddle** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:24 pm

Definitely "Song of the South"--hopefully with an additional documentary on the short life of it's star Bobby Driscoll.

It's a movie that deserves to be available again...Lord knows I've never seen it since it was on TV many years ago, so I'd be thrilled to watch it in a new adult perspective.

Chernabog · Post by **Chernabog** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:47 pm

Rudy Matt wrote:THE PEOPLE AND PLACES FILMS (according to Maltin's The Disney Films).

1953 - The Alaskan Eskimo (Academy Award Winner)
1954 - Siam (Academy Award Nominee)
1955 - Arizona Sheepdog
1955 - Switzerland (Academy Award Nominee)
1955 - Men Against the Arctic (Acadey Award Winner)
1956 - Sardinia
1956 - Disneyland USA
1956 - Samoa (Academy Award Nominee)
1957 - Blue Men of Morocco
1957 - Lapland
1957 - Portugal (Academy Award Nominee)
1958 - Wales
1958 - Scotland
1958 - Ama Girls (Academy Award Nominee)
1958 - Seven Cities of Antartica
1959 - Cruise of the Eagle
1960 - Japan
1960 - The Danube

I love Gallgher and John Slaughter and the rest of the TV product, but we're talking about a series with 7 Oscar nominations and two wins. These need to come to the Treasures Line. They are priority #1

Couldn´t agree with you more.
This series have been neglected by the studio for far too long.
Sometimes I think that the studio is ashamed of these films, due to the way that the cultures were presented - but that was the way the western world looked upon other cultures then (not very ethical described in some of the films) and that some of the facts presented, are inaccurate to what we know about them today.
But in some way, that was also a problem with some of the facts with the True Life Adventures series, and didn´t stopped them from releasing that series.
So I really, really hope that we will se People and Places in the next wave, or as a separate release like True Life Adventures.

a-net-fan · Post by **a-net-fan** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:43 am

Margos wrote:My vote is still for "Song of the South." Personally, I think that should be priority number one, but it seems that I am in the minority there.

I agree with the others...I dont think so..... Actually I would bet money that if this title hit the shelves it would sell more copies then any other Disney Treasure. You are far from being the minority with your feelings that SOTS would be a ideal addition to the Treasures series.

Im sure I would buy People and Places if it was released but from what I know about it...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ it sounds very very very boring.

jlppr · Post by **jlppr** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:01 pm

that's true, i forgot all about SOTS. my priorities is the cartoons, first i would love it if they finished those of. then i would love to see SOTS as an additional volume, and before they start any new series they should finish the ones they've started like "Spin and Marty" and "Elfego Baca and The Swamp Fox". while i haven't started those i do plan on to and i would like it to be complete. besides there are many die hard fans of those shows who have started them and they deserve to have it complete

Rudy Matt · Post by **Rudy Matt** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:38 pm

I've owned Song of the South for years, as a Japanese Laserdisc import. Anyone who wants it can get it because of the rampant piracy. Shoot, you can watch the entire movie on YouTube last time I checked.

The People and Places films are completely buried. The closest you'll get is a snippet from Blue Men of Morocco on the 1st episode of Disneyland and the Disneyland USA short found on WDT: Disneyland - Secrets, Stories and Magic.

So Song of the South is not priority #1. You want it? It's there, go get it, go stream it on YouTube if you want.

People and Places?

Lost in the vault.

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:12 pm

I've seen it on YouTube. That's how I know I love it. But I want it so badly, and I don't want to buy a pirated, lower-quality, non-official, non-Disney-made, and may I add, illegal copy. I am only doing that if DVD dies before it can be released on the format. If there's anyway I can get it on DVD legitimately, I will do so in a heartbeat. And with all the controversy surrounding it, I don't think it will ever comfortably sit in the mainstream. So, it is the perfect candidate for a WDT set.
But, yes, unreleased material is very important. Personally, I don't know if I'd get "People and Places" if they released it. The only Treasure I have is "On the Front Lines," and the only one that I wish I could get besides that is "Behind the Scenes," because I collect feature films, not shorts. I know it's anal, but I can watch a short on YouTube with no problem. I don't neccesarily like watching full-length movies there on the tiny screen....
But, you know, they can always do more than one tin in a wave. There's room for both P&P and SotS. They don't have to compete!

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:26 pm

Who knows maybe Disney will release full seasons of classic Disney Shows (from Walt's time) now that they took the risk of goin beyond 2 discs.

Cordy_Biddle · Post by **Cordy_Biddle** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:05 pm

Margos wrote:I've seen it on YouTube. That's how I know I love it. But I want it so badly, and I don't want to buy a pirated, lower-quality, non-official, non-Disney-made, and may I add, illegal copy. I am only doing that if DVD dies before it can be released on the format. If there's anyway I can get it on DVD legitimately, I will do so in a heartbeat. And with all the controversy surrounding it, I don't think it will ever comfortably sit in the mainstream. So, it is the perfect candidate for a WDT set.
But, yes, unreleased material is very important. Personally, I don't know if I'd get "People and Places" if they released it. The only Treasure I have is "On the Front Lines," and the only one that I wish I could get besides that is "Behind the Scenes," because I collect feature films, not shorts. I know it's anal, but I can watch a short on YouTube with no problem. I don't neccesarily like watching full-length movies there on the tiny screen....
But, you know, they can always do more than one tin in a wave. There's room for both P&P and SotS. They don't have to compete!

So totally agree. I try to distance myself from illegal bootlegs as much as I can--the only two currently in my collection are the Hong Kong/"Bo-ying" company discs of "The Swan" and "The Great Waltz", simply because I couldn't wait for Warners to officially release them on DVD (and they still haven't).

I've avoided "Song of the South" for these reasons; so when Disney finally gets their act together, the cash registers will be swamped...

zackisthewalrus · Post by **zackisthewalrus** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:37 pm

I admit to owning a bootleg of SOTS, but as soon as the legal version is released, the bootleg is going in the trash where it belongs.

Chernabog · Post by **Chernabog** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:36 am

a-net-fan wrote:[Im sure I would buy People and Places if it was released but from what I know about it...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ it sounds very very very boring.

Sorry but there you are totally wrong (in my opinion) , they are not boring at all

Rudy Matt · Post by **Rudy Matt** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:20 am

The Japanese import laserdisc is not a bootleg. It's an official release.

Just to remind you, we're talking about a buried, forgotten film series that won two Oscars, earned seven Oscar nods total. They define the word "obscure". They are what the Disney Treasures series should be all about.

THE PEOPLE AND PLACES FILMS (according to Maltin's The Disney Films).

1953 - The Alaskan Eskimo (Academy Award Winner)
1954 - Siam (Academy Award Nominee)
1955 - Arizona Sheepdog
1955 - Switzerland (Academy Award Nominee)
1955 - Men Against the Arctic (Acadey Award Winner)
1956 - Sardinia
1956 - Disneyland USA
1956 - Samoa (Academy Award Nominee)
1957 - Blue Men of Morocco
1957 - Lapland
1957 - Portugal (Academy Award Nominee)
1958 - Wales
1958 - Scotland
1958 - Ama Girls (Academy Award Nominee)
1958 - Seven Cities of Antartica
1959 - Cruise of the Eagle
1960 - Japan
1960 - The Danube

I love Gallgher and John Slaughter and the rest of the TV product, but we're talking about a series with 7 Oscar nominations and two wins. These need to come to the Treasures Line. They are priority #1

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:24 am

Well, it was an official release when it was on laserdisc in Japan.... but someone had to take it, and transfer it to R1 DVD. And that's not exactly legal.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:16 am

But when has the law been 100% right? I make transfers of some Digital Copies to my PSP(only when there's no DVD of course, I still find them useless), but that's because they're not available for that format. If you want to convert LD to DVD, then it's completely justifiable.

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:42 am

ajmrowland wrote:But when has the law been 100% right? I make transfers of some Digital Copies to my PSP(only when there's no DVD of course, I still find them useless), but that's because they're not available for that format. If you want to convert LD to DVD, then it's completely justifiable.

Well, yes, but that's for personal use. You're not selling it to people for profit. Of course, I think one can justify stretching the laws a bit for SotS, just because Disney obviously isn't gaining anything from it, so why shouldn't someone else?

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 am

I admit to owning a bootleg copy of SOTS too. I'm impressed with the visual effects of James Baskett (Uncle Remus) interactin with the "Toon" enviroment.

If Disney released this film with the right effort, proper host to place it in context and a full sincere apoligey from Disney

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:02 pm

I don't think an apology would be a good idea. Why should they apologize for making a perfectly good movie that isn't racist? It would just add kindling to the fire of controversy surrounding the film. But yeah, Baskett's eyeline is near perfect!

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:13 pm

well not apologizing for the film seeming racist, but apologizing for not releasing the film to the public in 63 years.

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